Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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From the redcafe twitter page it says a £10M loss on him. I'm surprised we didn't hold out for more as PSG surely was desperate to sign him.
 
From the redcafe twitter page it says a £10M loss on him. I'm surprised we didn't hold out for more as PSG surely was desperate to sign him.
Given his seeing reluctance to play for us i was scared PSG would low ball us and we'd end up caving.
 
He's a fanny. We're better of without the likes of Di Maria, in spite of his very obvious ability and talent.
 
From the redcafe twitter page it says a £10M loss on him. I'm surprised we didn't hold out for more as PSG surely was desperate to sign him.

We heavily overpaid and now they are doing the same. To be fair, we are lucky to have gotten this amount.
 
I hope we are at least inserting some clauses like RM do. 5 mil if he wins CL and so on.

My opinion in short:
Has been too late for a while to save anything and keep him. The damage has been done ages ago. Obviously he has to take blame as well. Fact remains still that for every team and manager (including Mourinho) for club and country he has been a starter apart from for LvG. He even adapted to Ancelotti's new role for him. Yes, he has always been inconsistent, but that didn't stop his managers to keep him as a regular starter for better teams than the one we have had last season.

Shame it ended the way it has, especially considering all the hype, excitement, nr 7 shirt, record signing and all that which came with it.
 
Obviously the biggest flop ever - he was our record signing FFS (no, don't bring the net spend into the discussion)!
 
Obviously the biggest flop ever - he was our record signing FFS (no, don't bring the net spend into the discussion)!
Agreed, there's really no arguing against it. If it were Liverpool or City in this situation we'd be laughing our heads off.
 
Dunno, Birtles came with a massive reputation but had a 'mare and was consequently sold a game into his second season. It's close to be fair. Di Maria may just be top of the flops, though.
 
He must've been told to stay away by PSG / agent.

But anyway, our biggest flop ever? Possibly bigger than Birtles.
Definitely. Had a promising start but never kicked on, ended up being overtaken by Young in the pecking order, getting sent off against Arsenal and leaving after just one season. With the price we paid as well, if it had happened to anyone else we'd be laughing. We weren't even Di Maria's second choice (first choice: stay at Real Madrid, second choice: go to PSG)
 
Blame is shared on all sides for the way this has played out.

LVG shouldn't had agreed to the move in the first place if he wanted to completely change the player.
United should have supported Di Maria more in his personal life.
Di Maria should have tried harder to adapt to the team.

Gutted he has gone without having played for United in a Europe, and it shows the excitement of last summers transfers don't always turn out how you expect!
Rubbish
 
Definitely. Had a promising start but never kicked on, ended up being overtaken by Young in the pecking order, getting sent off against Arsenal and leaving after just one season. With the price we paid as well, if it had happened to anyone else we'd be laughing. We weren't even Di Maria's second choice (first choice: stay at Real Madrid, second choice: go to PSG)


Which begs the question why did we buy him? Surely we had an inkling that we weren't even his second choice? Smacks of desperately on Woody's part to be honest. As did Falcao. Great on paper, but....
 
Agreed, there's really no arguing against it. If it were Liverpool or City in this situation we'd be laughing our heads off.

True, but at least we're actually getting most of the money back for our flop and it's more to do with his attitude in the end because I don't think it's as though he's not a good player anymore. Torres had declined a little at Liverpool but really turned to shit almost overnight and Carroll was never a £40m player and never will be.
 
Which begs the question why did we buy him? Surely we had an inkling that we weren't even his second choice? Smacks of desperately on Woody's part to be honest. As did Falcao. Great on paper, but....
Desperation and simply getting a world class player for the sake of getting a world class player.
 
Definitely. Had a promising start but never kicked on, ended up being overtaken by Young in the pecking order, getting sent off against Arsenal and leaving after just one season. With the price we paid as well, if it had happened to anyone else we'd be laughing. We weren't even Di Maria's second choice (first choice: stay at Real Madrid, second choice: go to PSG)

To be fair this probably says a hell of a lot more about him and than it does about us.
 
True, it was very clear that he wasn't joining just to join United. He wanted out of Madrid and in the end we were the only ones who could afford him
 
I hope we are at least inserting some clauses like RM do. 5 mil if he wins CL and so on.

My opinion in short:
Has been too late for a while to save anything and keep him. The damage has been done ages ago. Obviously he has to take blame as well. Fact remains still that for every team and manager (including Mourinho) for club and country he has been a starter apart from for LvG. He even adapted to Ancelotti's new role for him. Yes, he has always been inconsistent, but that didn't stop his managers to keep him as a regular starter for better teams than the one we have had last season.

Shame it ended the way it has, especially considering all the hype, excitement, nr 7 shirt, record signing and all that which came with it.
True but Di Maria hasn't played in a robust league like the premier league before and the burglary could have pushed him over the edge.
 
I was always hoping it would work out for him, but to be honest his performances at the end of last season were truly shocking. Never seen someone waste possession like that and he was manhandled in the PL.

He was probably worth a punt, top players are rarely available and at least we're getting about 3/4th of the fee back.
 
Blame is shared on all sides for the way this has played out.

LVG shouldn't had agreed to the move in the first place if he wanted to completely change the player.
United should have supported Di Maria more in his personal life.
Di Maria should have tried harder to adapt to the team.

Gutted he has gone without having played for United in a Europe, and it shows the excitement of last summers transfers don't always turn out how you expect!

Explain how you know that United haven't supported him enough in his personal life. Are you actually an insider at the club with information about that, or it just some theory you've made up this morning? I suspect the latter.
 
When you weigh his performance last summer and lack of professionalism this summer against the fee United paid for him and the wages United paid to him...he has to be considered the biggest flop in EPL history.

I'd say that I wish him the best, but I don't particularly care if he goes on to have success or not.
 
Which begs the question why did we buy him? Surely we had an inkling that we weren't even his second choice? Smacks of desperately on Woody's part to be honest. As did Falcao. Great on paper, but....
Mix of things. I think Van Gaal may have prefered to have someone like Sanchez but the lack of CL football along with location pretty much ruled us out. Di Maria wasn't the right signing for us in hindsight but Mendes' influence along with us wanting that sort of high profile player was ultimately a bad combination.
 
he started to drop out from performing was also roughly the same time the contract issue of falcao had started to surface

call me conspiracy
 
I can't believe that some of you are saying he played badly. He didn't.
He helped create more goals than any other player in our team, even though he had fewer minutes on the pitch than many. Statistically, did a decent job.

Now, Falcao/Anderson were truly awful. We should've asked for a refund for all the wages we wasted on these guys. These are the sort of players who deserve the vitriol...not Di Maria.

Ultimately, the problem was that Young was better, so Di Maria became a bench warmer and with the arrival of Depay, I think Di Maria felt that he would go further down the pecking order; possibly even failing to make the bench (remember when Falcao failed to even make the bench in one of our games?). So, Di Maria had to make a decision. He could either sit on the bench, at his peak (age 27 - 28) OR, he can move to PSG, where he will get 1st team football.

It was a no-brainer for Di Maria. He's done the right thing.

When he limped off against Hull it was so clear he couldn't be arsed.

Yep.
When this happened, I honestly could not believe how easily he gave up.
A Hull player got a huge gash on his leg and he kept playing, but Di Maria seemingly just gave up and sat down on the ground...thats what it looked like to me.
At the time, many fans were defending Di Maria for that, but that did not change my mind...I knew something was up.
 
Good to get 44m. Just hope Blanc doesn't play him in cm (dont think he will) because thats where we'll see the real di Maria (no pun intented).

Never been a consistent winger and never will be, in my opinion. Think its the right decision seeing as Van Gaal wanted to play him out wide for the upcoming season.
 
I think it's fair to say we clearly overpaid for him, even if he would have been a hit, and if £44 mill is correct I think we've gotten ourselves a good deal if we invest half of that in Pedro as his replacement.

I think it's sad to see how he turned out, he looked bound for glory at first, but seemed completely unable to cope with the physical side of the PL, and not able to adapt either. If he lacks the determination this looks like the best solution in my opinion, good luck to him, he'll probably tear the French league a new one.
 
It's going to be annoying when he does play well for PSG and we'll get endless jeers about this whole thing.
 
I don't see how we are losing money when the fee is £45m.

1)it has already been established that we overpaid
2)even if we didn't, 13 assists and 4 goals with average performances and a World class September should cost just about £10-15m.
3)Didn't the last deal have add-ons that Haven't been activated?
4)those wages.

How do 1 and 2 in any way show the club hasn't lost money on this?

Ronaldo more than repaid his transfer fee at United with his performances. By the logic of your point 2, United wouldn't have lost any money on the deal if they'd given him to Real for nothing?
 
I can't believe that some of you are saying he played badly. He didn't.
He helped create more goals than any other player in our team, even though he had fewer minutes on the pitch than many. Statistically, did a decent job.

Now, Falcao/Anderson were truly awful. We should've asked for a refund for all the wages we wasted on these guys. These are the sort of players who deserve the vitriol...not Di Maria.

Ultimately, the problem was that Young was better, so Di Maria became a bench warmer and with the arrival of Depay, I think Di Maria felt that he would go further down the pecking order; possibly even failing to make the bench (remember when Falcao failed to even make the bench in one of our games?). So, Di Maria had to make a decision. He could either sit on the bench, at his peak (age 27 - 28) OR, he can move to PSG, where he will get 1st team football.

It was a no-brainer for Di Maria. He's done the right thing.

Most of those goals and assists were in the first third of the season, he was poor after that and I could see that with my own eyes despite the statistics. Falcao deserves to be criticised because he was dreadful (I won't even mention Anderson) but at least he tried and he was only on loan so it didn't matter too much, we spent £60m on Di Maria and after about November his performances were shockingly under par. He's had loads of chances to turn it around and would have been given time to this season but he wants out. And that last bit's nonsense too, if Di Maria actually wanted to play here he'd fight for his place and make it so van Gaal had to play him. You think at his best he wouldn't get in ahead of Young or Depay? He's bottled it pure and simple for an easy league where he'll be on big wages.
 
Explain how you know that United haven't supported him enough in his personal life. Are you actually an insider at the club with information about that, or it just some theory you've made up this morning? I suspect the latter.

duh! it's a fans forum, no one has insider knowledge.

When a clubs record signing is sold after 1 season then it can only be seen as a disaster for everyone involved. If you want to just think Di Maria is to blame then fantastic for you...but i don't see it as black and white as that.
 
Agreed, there's really no arguing against it. If it were Liverpool or City in this situation we'd be laughing our heads off.

Wasn't Berbatov our record signing couldn't get in the team for the champions league final flop? I'm sure Veron was our record signing too. Give it a rest no one cares and it will soon be forgotten.
 
Desperation and simply getting a world class player for the sake of getting a world class player.

But he also had a fantastic season and played excellent in 2 positions in which we needed a player- midfield and wing. It turned out he couldn’t play football at all in England, whether it was weather, place, burglary or whatever that made him lose all footballing skills. I thought it was a good deal when we first bought him, who could’ve predicted he will be such a flop with no ambition though. IMO it’s all in his head, he wanted out for a long long time. It's the expectations we all had that made him biggest flop of the season IMO.

True, it was very clear that he wasn't joining just to join United. He wanted out of Madrid and in the end we were the only ones who could afford him

He wanted to stay if I recall correctly, it’s Madrid who wanted to get rid because they wanted James.
 
Wasn't Berbatov our record signing couldn't get in the team for the champions league final flop? I'm sure Veron was our record signing too. Give it a rest no one cares and it will soon be forgotten.
Di Maria broke the British transfer fee record by £10m and only played well in a handful of games. He's a massive flop, plain and simple.
 
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