No we'd rather have morata but if the money gets crazy then dzeko could do a job here in the short term.
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Levy's a prck as well. If kanes worth 60m we'd pay 120m.
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After all the prices being banded about we might as well pay 120m for Kane
So offer more than that...
Think about some of the sums we've paid...
di Maria - 60m
Pogba - 90m
Shaw - 30m (3 seasons ago)
Fellaini - 30m (3 seasons ago)
Martial - 50-60m (3 seasons ago)
I'm not saying all these are bad transfers, but they're all WAY over the odds.
Kane would sort us out for 10 years, so if you're gonna be breaking records and paying over the odds, you may as well get some quality and longevity for your money.
Coming in with a serious, public, 150m bid for Kane would be a good move compared to almost all the other strikers we've been linked with.
No, this is not the one I was searching. Someone posted that ManUtd didn't make bid and it was on sky transfer center. Apparently it was deleted.
Not really. De Gea has nothing to do with us wanting a lot of money for Morata. We simply rate him very highly, and would rather keep him if possible
and clubs are perfectly in their rights to demand whatever price they want for their players.
and the transfer fee only matters in regards to its impact on the club's ability AND need to sign other players
Maybe youre right. I reckon theyre bartering though. If we're at the point of making formal bids though, which we almost never do, then i reckon it'll happen. Probably about 60-65m. Its more than i'd have preferred to pay i'll agree but at 24 we could get a good few years out of him as our first choice striker. Spanish players settle well here generally from previous experience too.
There is no doubt about it. I think dealing with him is a no go from the start and he wouldn't sell to us in a million years unless the player is insisting on that.
Even then, he would fully take us to the cleaners. Afterwords, Pogba deal would look like a bargain.
I understand your point but we can't be buying stop gaps.
The prices that are flying around are going to increase over the next few years. If we don't get a long term striker now then in 3 years time we will be back in this very same position but this time around we will have to pay over £80 million just to get a decent forward.
I say spend what we have to spend, get a player in his mid 20s and worry about other positions in the coming windows.
He wouldnt come. Hes a spurs fan and they finished above us in the table. If he was here he'd probably want to go there right now.
Theres that, i'll agree. Transfer fees are like house prices, they only tend to go one way.
We should just get Erikson who supplies harry kane. We also need wingers. And United's scouting has been a huge question mark here when harry kane's and deli ali's are landing in tottenham. Typical mismagement after fergie.
Signing Kane would be amazing. He is the best striker in the league, no doubt. But we can't spend that much on one player. We have other positions that need upgrades. And Kane seems to be happy at Spurs. Unless he wants the move, Spurs can straight out tell us he's not for sale at any price.
He'd want extras in the deal as well like 120% selling on fee and framed photo of him bending woody over his desk and serving as a toast rack.
Anyway, if Real doesn't get Mbappe this year, they really need Morata as Benzema has already struggled this season. He is perfect for them in that scenario.
If they buy Mbappe, though, can see this deal going through. There is no point for keeping him anymore, he would find himself with even more limited playing time and his valuation would probably massively drop in just one season.
If they buy Mbappe, though, can see this deal going through. There is no point for keeping him anymore, he would find himself with even more limited playing time and his valuation would probably massively drop in just one season.
Signed eriksen for what 12m? We were napping on that one.
fair enough...although personally I never really thought Di Mario wanted to come here at all.
Moyes was incharge i think.
And you NEED another pair of arse cheeks sat on the bench don't you? It's why so many, including me hate Real Madrid. Their need to ruin players careers and treat them like dirt, with a bit if luck and common sense Mbappe will sign for ANYONE else.
Debatable...
There are also some fans (like me) who want us to go after players who have real quality like Aubameyang instead of wasting 90 million on this guy and financing Real to sign Mbappe or DDG.
I think real gave him the hard sell. You know, go now where we say or get used to sitting with coentrao in the stands.
Something like that.
It's all guessing but I think there were different circumstances. They pushed Di Maria out of the club and basically since than Di Maria was only after the money with zero motivation. Even in PSG they complained about his attitude.
So far Real do need Morata as I think they are not certain they will get Mbappe this season or the next. If he is willing to come, despite them not pushing him out, it's a good sign.
Quite right, strikers will only start costing more and more. Let's buy right and only need to buy once in the next few years.
The prices being quoted right now are madness, however if we can sustain spending €150-200m a year on transfers then the price is only an issue if it limits our ability to strengthen in other areas.
€100m on the current wonderkid is probably no more expensive for us now than when we splashed out on Rooney or Rio.
That's the situation though. You can't wish that away. Auba to PSG is already gone. DDG has been trying to leave, and I think we have enough young strikers for one team.
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Yeah this is all obviously correct, although Real fans on here seem to have a different view of things when it comes to them signing players, or more specifically DDG.
I don't know if you are in that group though, so don't take this personally
"Not allowed to attack"? You do realize we were set up to counter? The exact role in which Morata has excelled! Fact is Rashford missed a boatload of chances across the season. His decision-making tends to get poorer when he has more time to decide - this is a flaw no top forward can be allowed to have and one he desperately needs to iron out. This is why his instinctive finishes are great, but you struggle to find the carefully crafted goals in his repertoire. "Between large spells on the bench" like the way Morata had, you mean? "roles he isn't good at" like playing on the wings the way Morata has done in the past? Let's face facts!
Nobody was calling for Ronaldo to be dropped; if anything, Fergie restricted his time to the point where we were all screaming for him to be played more! He was not inconsistent as much as his decision-making on the final ball was poor; but this was sorted fairly quickly (remember, he wasn't with us long before winning the Balon d'Or! Crucially, also, it was a different time. We were in a decent spell and were not crying out for immediate success the way we are now. Oh and yes, let's please not compare Rashford with Ronaldo. Even in his worst displays it was obvious that Ronaldo was a star and potentially one of the best in the world. Rashford has (so far) done nothing to show he's anywhere close to that category itself, let alone Ronaldo's level. So no, I don't buy this argument.
That would take us back to around 2006 and the times of young Rooney, Ronaldo and even Tevez. I trust you're not comparing Rashford with those. After those, we've struggled for decent strikers and it's therefore no great achievement to be in the category of the best young strikers after that time. Frankly, we need success (at least progress) this season and Rashford would not guarantee that. Nor would Martial (after the last season, he's lucky to stay). Morata is a massive upgrade on both. Would I prefer someone else? Yeah, well, in an ideal world, I'd ask for Ronaldo, Messi, Griezmann and Modric. But the fact is, I'm not David Moyes and don't live in an echo chamber. Morata may not be among the top 5 players on the planet, but crucially, he is among the top 5 forwards known to be available this summer. If you'd rather have the Glazers and the club sit on a boatload of cash while we limp to sixth again while patting yourself on the back for "being patient" with Rashford and Martial, well, all I can say is that I have a different set of hopes and ambitions for the club and a different way of looking at money, viz. "Money is only worth it if you use it well".
Ok so we go £125m for Kane. They wouldn't reject that. No chance. It makes little sense to chase lesser players without even trying for Kane. If he's unattainable he's unattainable but at least test Spurs and get the player thinking.
There's no crime in lodging a proper bid. Nothing underhand or unreasonable unless you're taking the piss like Arsenal did with Suarez and the extra £1.
There's no crime in lodging a proper bid. Nothing underhand or unreasonable unless you're taking the piss like Arsenal did with Suarez and the extra £1.
Great call..probably still has a house in Manchester too ffs.
That's certainly an eye-watering figure for old Alvaro but I guess it's what happens when we target players the elite clubs. It's not surprising that the big, already cash-rich, clubs are going to rinse us considering our recent transfer history, not to mention the De Gea factor involved in this one.
It just strikes me as odd that there doesn't appear to be all-that-many decent strikers at mid-level clubs in Europe. The obvious one that springs to mind is Chicharito but looking at the scoring charts across Europe nobody else really stands out. Timo Werner? German and probably won't want to leave Leipzig. Bas Dost? Nobody trusts scoring records in Portugal and Holland. Belotti? Certainly a talent but has a huge release clause. Dzeko? A great choice but he's 31 so I wonder how long he has left at the top level.
I guess at the end of the day we'd all love a Van Nistelrooy but a Louis Saha would do pretty nicely right now.
Then again, if we get really desperate Matt Derbyshire just scored 24 goals in the Cypriot First Division
It just strikes me as odd that there doesn't appear to be all-that-many decent strikers at mid-level clubs in Europe. The obvious one that springs to mind is Chicharito but looking at the scoring charts across Europe nobody else really stands out. Timo Werner? German and probably won't want to leave Leipzig. Bas Dost? Nobody trusts scoring records in Portugal and Holland. Belotti? Certainly a talent but has a huge release clause. Dzeko? A great choice but he's 31 so I wonder how long he has left at the top level.
I guess at the end of the day we'd all love a Van Nistelrooy but a Louis Saha would do pretty nicely right now.
Then again, if we get really desperate Matt Derbyshire just scored 24 goals in the Cypriot First Division
Can Jose move in?
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Morata's a quality player, and if you look deeper into the stats you'll see why Mourinho is so interested:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/spanish-la-liga/top-scorers
89 mins per goal and a whopping 61% of all shots on target. That's exceptional.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/spanish-la-liga/top-scorers
89 mins per goal and a whopping 61% of all shots on target. That's exceptional.
60 m pounds or 65 at maximum high would be a decent signing. Anything above that is ridiculous given his goals ratio. Instead getting back welbecks and hernendez or someone like mertens or abamyang makes more sense, and get griezmann next year or try in january window If atletico agree deal for lacazatte to join in january .
Would rather have Hernandez back.
Madrid can afford Mbappe whether we buy Morata or not.. it's no difference.
There's nobody worth anything like the quoted figures except maybe Auba. So to me, it makes sense to get another stop gap.
Get him signed up the price is fair in the current transfer market as much as you want to moan.
We need a striker these options of buying a not so good player for a stop gap are stupid, we cannot afford to waste another season after crawling back into the Champions League. We need to carry on climbing and get back to the top.
We need a striker these options of buying a not so good player for a stop gap are stupid, we cannot afford to waste another season after crawling back into the Champions League. We need to carry on climbing and get back to the top.
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