I wouldn't be at all surprised if we still signed Morata. We still need another big name striker.
Although with Lukaku coming here Morata could go to Chelsea IMO.
Although with Lukaku coming here Morata could go to Chelsea IMO.
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After being briefed by the club, MEN saying United had a free run to the Morata deal, but opted to give Madrid the radio silence treatment over the last fortnight, once they knew Lukaku was gettable.
After being briefed by the club, MEN saying United had a free run to the Morata deal, but opted to give Madrid the radio silence treatment over the last fortnight, once they knew Lukaku was gettable.
I'm delighted we haven't signed him. We haven't helped Madrid and we've avoided a potential Di Maria situation where he's not happy or settled. I personally don't think Morata would have wanted to come to Manchester as his first choice.
Although I wouldn't mind having 2 good strikers so im not opposed to the move.
Although I wouldn't mind having 2 good strikers so im not opposed to the move.
You dont spend a massive fee having only one season in mind.
Perez and Real can feck off with their OTT demands for an unproven player.
According to the reports, Lukaku was always our first choice. If true, then the argument that 'oh well Mourinho wants him' also has ended.
There is now literally no reason why Morata would be better for us. Some people here seem sad about it as if we're missing out on Nistelrooy in his prime. We'll be fine without him.
There is now literally no reason why Morata would be better for us. Some people here seem sad about it as if we're missing out on Nistelrooy in his prime. We'll be fine without him.
Morata was very involved in coming, he knows he won't make it in Real Madrid.
Come on mate. Even if you look at the comparison chart:
He has created as much chances as Diego Costa for example given that the playing time was about the same.
Sure his first touch and link up game is not the best out, but his attacking output for Everton last year was nothing short of impressive, considering how crap they were at times.
Come on mate. Even if you look at the comparison chart:
He has created as much chances as Diego Costa for example given that the playing time was about the same.
Sure his first touch and link up game is not the best out, but his attacking output for Everton last year was nothing short of impressive, considering how crap they were at times.
Chances created category make a mockery of all the claims that Morata has more "dynamism" and would make us more "dynamic" - whatever the feck that means.
Actually on that point, can the words dynamic and dynamism be banned like Jo-Mo was?
If a player snub us we move for his alternative
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Nah, he still looks utter class there, always trying the hard shot.
Very interesting of true. Feel sorry for Morata though.
Morata played significantly less so that should be taken into an account, but he is not inferior to Costa and Ibra who are one of the top strikers in Prem last year.
same outcome tho.
I'm not sure you even know what you're arguing about any more. This is the central point which you're constantly backtracking on in various ways:
That's evidently not true. Some of the greatest teams of all time had very limited strikers technically, and a whole host of teams successful at the highest level have done throughout the ages. The only way it can be true is if you narrow your definition of "good football" to the point where it has practically no meaning. It's just something you like saying.
We dint trigger the buy out clause we needed both 9 and 10 and we decided on a 9.
I hope this is the end of Fellaini at United. Lukaku and Fellaini will both end up in hospital banging heads.
I really don't get where this idea of Morata comes from, he is a good player but I don't see him as 'far superior' to Lukaku. Take a step back and look objectively at Morata's last few seasons, I really don't get the hype. Lukaku gets way more goals, he has done since his WBA days and gets more assists as well.
The way you describe building an attacking unit around Morata sounds nice but it also surely applies to Lukaku... you just build the attacking units differently. For all the fuss around 'free flowing attacking units' LPool & City (the teams that most try to play that way) got nowhere near the Spurs/Chelsea model last season.
I have certain doubts about Lukaku but given the choice between him and Morata, you take Lukaku all day long.
Not followed Morata much. No idea if he's better or comparable to Lukaku. He'd definitely have sold more shirts. Lukaku is not very marketable due to his personality.
I'm not backtracking on anything, good football and successful football are not the same thing, if you are trying to deem them as such then you are the one moving goalposts to try and suit the poor argument you attempted to generate, I'm still waiting to hear the Barca donkey btw.
If you have watched both of them you can see how Morata is a far superior actual footballer, his technical ability and awareness of the players around him is far more in tune with playing a more attractive and varied brand of football. I don't see what Chelsea and Spurs have to do with anything, Kane and Costa are much more rounded than Lukaku and both have quality partners in Hazard and Dele, we have no such player.
Messi missing a few chances is hardly the same as a striker that repeatedely fails to trap the football when it's played into him on the ground.
Depends on the viewpoint (and who cuts the video):
here he doesn't seem to look as he can't trap it.
That sounds as believable as the 'we never wanted Griezmann' nonsense. There's no way that Morata's Dad and agent go to Madrid this week if they aren't certain United are still interested.
I don't know why the club insists on briefing out these literally unbelievable lines. Just tell the truth. We were working on securing a striker, Madrid chose to play silly beggars, we saw an opening for Lukaku and took it.
Putting out this stuff about how Lukaku was always our number one target just sounds ridiculous. Its possible its true but by spinning it, it just sounds daft.
He's not even superior let alone far superior. He's a different player and probably suited Jose a bit more which is is id have preferred him. Overall though looking at overall track record its hard to argue Morata is a better player.
A lot of that traces back to his questionable decision making ability, he looks to be thinking about the layoff or a one touch pass before he even receives the ball. He'd benefit a lot by letting the game slow down for himself. If he was the first choice for both Jose and Conte, surely they are seeing something they can work with deeper than this.
You can make anyone look good on Youtube, but the fact there are so many examples to complile of his lousy first touch tells the full story, I am sure with the right editing you could make Rooney look like he was decent last season, but we all the know the truth from actually watching him, same with Lukaku.
No, I think Mourinho preferred Lukaku from the start, but thought the player had a preference for Chelsea, which is probably true. Maybe Raiola and Pogba changed that enough for him to decide for us when Chelsea didn't put the money forward.
I've seen a lot of Lukaku and as I've said whilst he doesn't possess exquisite skills on the ball he's no Heskey either.
He's a much better goal scorer than Heskey but technically there's not a huge deal of difference, both cumbersome and somewhat lumbering in how they move and neither have a good touch.
I just feel we have sunk to Perez's level by stringing the lad along. I think he was convinced he was coming to us and there was no need to put a transfer request in. I thought we were classier than that. I suppose we will need to wait on what Morata has to say if anything. So maybe I should just lower my expectations for United behaviour in future.
Very glad we aren't buying him.
Much prefer Lukaku.
Much prefer Lukaku.
Real can be great to play for, but god help you if you actually want to leave or are not wanted e.g. James, who they cannot get anyone to take. Mbappe take note.
Maybe he did. My point is by spinning it, it doesn't come across like that. United and Madrid were quite clearly talking until yesterday. Why pretend there was radio silence for the last two weeks? By lying you make the truth, that Jose preferred Lukaku (Jamie Jackson claimed he was 'obssessed with Lukaku' a month back), sound less credible.
A clear reason why we've gone for Lukaku. Madrid wanted 80 million euros up front and 10 million in bonuses. We were presented with two strikers for around the same cost and we went for the one that was easier to get and Premier League proven. Simple.
Like Sneijder, like Robben, like Ozil, like Di Maria, like even club legends like Raul or Luiz Ronaldo. When they don't want you you're worth less than garbage. So many players have been through this and yet so many others run headlong into the Madrid madness thinking they'll be the next Ronaldo.
By this time next year Madrid will be after the player stood out most at Russia 2018 and whoever they signed this summer will be yesterday's news. Yet the summer after the new kid on the block will be dreaming of Madrid. They never learn...
I'm glad we told Madrid to feck off. Good luck getting that money from any other mugs. I actually think Lukaku suits us better.
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