I could decide to play Stuart Downing instead of Ronaldo, does that automatically make Downing a better player?
Zidane is sticking with what he knows, a large portion of Madrids fanbsse would like to see him start instead of Benzema.
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Zidane is sticking with what he knows, a large portion of Madrids fanbsse would like to see him start instead of Benzema.
Think Ronaldo like his link up with Benzema. If they lose Morata it will take some money to replace both Benzema and Ronaldo eventually. Harry Kane anyone?
This is my take, against 'weaker teams' Lukaku will look like a proper bully however I think Morata's contribution will be much better in the big games.
Yes, but how much do we really know about his keenness to join us? Has he said a single thing about it?
Don't be - Morata is the more intelligent player. Lukaku is too one dimensional. Granted he gets the goals sometimes, but Everton I think are pretty much set up for him. Not sure he would gel with our current players imho.
In his case, the ideal setup is him moving to United and playing regularly with Costa moving to Atleti (and therefore missing half the season).
The fact his dad accompanied his agent to push for a move, indicates there is some truth to it. He is protecting himself just in case the deal falls through I'm guessing. I could be delusional though I do admit. We also reached an agreement with him quite quickly if reports are believed, it's Madrid who are playing hardball. To be fair it's rare that a player comes out and states he would love to join club x, it's a risky game as you never know where you will end up playing.
Pogba remained quiet throughout the saga as well yet he was very eager to join, Juventus sort of confirmed afterwards that he requested to leave to us.
Wouldn't be smart to say anything in public. Madrid are still his employers.
If he didn't want to, why would he consider leaving? Real don't want to sell him either, so it's not like he's being pushed out the door.
With the way Everton is spending it's clear Lukaku has been sold. No need to compare them at this point.
Is it really wise to down play Hernandez after 2 good goalscoring seasons in Germany, not to mention the part he played in our domestic success while at United? All the while hyping up Morata, who in all honestly, has only had one season similar to Chicha's.
Didn't think Hernandez had played so well this season?
Well no. Hes a madrid player. Its not his place to talk about transfers in the media is it?
Different case entirely in my opinion. Didn't Giggs support Chicharito? It was that missed penalty that sealed his fate and he was told to find a new club as he would not be played by that fraud LVG. I'd much rather we stuck with Chicharito and sold Rooney. Madrid don't have anyone in a similar situation. Sure, Morata is 3rd choice behind Benzema and CR but Rooney is nowhere near their level to say he should have been kept over Chicharito. I think Chicharito wanted to stay and fight but was LVG'd. Sad thing is he would have been shit no matter what because we didn't create anywhere near enough chances for a poacher like Chicharito to score. Needless to say, LVG set us back in so many ways and the effects are still being dealt with.
Not directed towards you but if it cost 90 fecking million euros for Morato, so what. We need a goal scorer and he is a scorer of goals. Benzema and CR appear to be first choice plans for Zidane for the near future and he will have to move on if he wants to play or be happy with his current status as 3rd choice.
He didn't. 11 in 28 with a 5 month dry spell until Feb.
So up for this transfer now, he'll be a very good addition if we get him. Starting to really not care how much we pay for him now.
If Morata had a career with us like Morientes' at Madrid, averaging around 12 league goals a season over a consistent period at his peak, would people be happy?
No
That would depend on what else he brought to our attack.
If his movement and link up play suddenly provided a foil for Martial, Rashford and Mkhitaryan to run riot and those three all started registering 15+ goals a season playing around him then he'd be worth it.
He doesn't even need to be the main provider for their output, just the right player in the right system to make it all click.
Chelsea fans seem relatively happy with Drogba's contribution. In 9 years at the club he managed more than 12 league goals in a season just twice.
I might be wrong but I think his dad IS his agent.
Yeah but that comparison is way off. Ronaldo is on a different planet than Downing, Benzema is still better than Morata. He hasn't ever been the starting striker for his club. The way I see it, him and Pogba both were at Juventus, both are the same age, Pogba was a key part of that team meanwhile Morata was a squad player. Since then Pogba has only gotten better and Morata is just sitting on another bench. Multiple managers haven't trusted him to lead the line and everyone in here is just convinced he can come in and replace Zlatan. He'll probably be adequate, but for the reported fees of 70-80 million I'd want more than just adequate, but in general there is more money than talent floating around this window.
What he said.
For what its worth, I'm not sure he'll come in and be a 30 a season forward, though I hope he can grow into one with consistent gametime next year, but I am sure he'll be an overall success and fans will grow to love him.
Clealry I was using hyperbole to illustrate a point. Park and Fabio werent better midfielders than Pogba either but Fergie opted for them ahead of him.
Many, many Madrid fans would strongly disagree with that assessment and want him ahead of Benzema.
At both Madrid and Juventus he was adored and both club and fans absolutely did not/don't want him to leave. Doesn't that tell you something?
Tell me, how often do players confirm themselves as the main striker for the best club in the world at the age of 24?
Infact, lets take Benzema as an example. At a similar age he was being kept out of the team by Higuain and an on loan Adebayour. The manager he established himself as a first teamed? You guessed it: Mourinho.
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Not really , they have come into a lot of money and they have only spent 90m on 5 player's. I would like to see him stay there and see how Everton get on this season
I thought so too, but Castles endorsed it on Twitter. And it's rarer a journo guesses something to drag on. Normally if they're guessing or click baiting, they'll say it will be done soon
yes and no...
yes - because Morata could play behind Lukaku
no - because Pogba doesn't work in a 2 man midfield
Castles is clueless unless he's fed by mendes. The whole "ronaldo is upset" has disappeared now conveniently.
Apparently his dad is called Alfonso Morata and his agent Juanma Lopez.
Dad being agents, is that common with Italian footballers?
Completely missing the point...
On Morata, I'm sure he's not 'shit' but he's definitely not one of my top choices. I doubt he was on many people's radar a few months ago.
Rooney was rarely relied upon to be the main goalscorer though.
Football now is very much focused around the No.9, more than ever he's responsible for the goals.
So that's a big burden for a guy whose only scored about 50 goals (is that right?) In his entire career thus far.
That's why I'd go for Lukaku. He pretty much guarantees you a very good return despite his other weaknesses.
This. I think we're hoping, because of his all-round play, that he lifts our general attacking play.
i don't know what you're talking about football now being focused around the #9 and now more than ever they being responsible for goals, maybe you mean united specifically because that doesn't reflect the reality of most top teams right now. They usually have a bunch of players capable of contributing with their goal scoring endeavors. The burden of goalscoring has primarily been on strikers and it has always been like that, if there was a shift, i'd say it actually was to lessen the pressure on #9 to be the main/only goal outlets. I mean look at teams like barca with a fluid front 3, or teams like atletico and juve with players like griezmann and dybala playing behind main strikers and putting up numbers or even bayern with wingers that cut in for goals. i'm sorry, but your assertion is just not true.
Morata is the perfect modern day striker because he's got great technical ability, can play wide, he's good in the air and capable of seeing a pass and is a good finisher, not just a poacher or whatever. His career goals today do not mean much because generally he has played in much better teams that Lukaku with a higher level of quality and was not the main man, yet he's still done quite well, he's talent is evident, at United he will flourish.
Lukaku's goals come in spurts, he could go 8 matches in a dry run and then score back to back hatricks against fodder opposition to make up the numbers, his all around play doesn't measure up to Morata's and his technical ability is lacking. We should be buying players that can play football because players the overtly rely on their physical prowess like Lukaku usually have a shorter expiration date and are more predictable/easier to nullify.
Time doesn't exist...it's a human construct, based on nothing more than an agreed upon construct by people a long time ago...
It could be an alias...
Honestly I was so excited about this window given the Pogba and Ibra signings last year but even if we get the targets highlighted I think they are so uninspiring transfers. Whilst it's not over, the pool is ridiculously shallow so who else is there. Just seems once Griezmann didn't happen, just completely threw our transfer strategy out the window.
1. Morata at this stage of his career does not like playing pure decoy role for another player (aka Ronaldo)
2. This is a myth or you didn't watch the games toward the end of this past season, especially France vs England friendly game. The problem with our play is that the lack of balance: in either not enough wide up front or good movement. Pogba ended up having to hold on to the ball for too long. With good movement wide player playing their role well, Pogba can work in midfield 2 just fine. Ever since last year EURO, he has been playing midfield 2 more than midfield 3 & has shown improvement. He's not one dimensional player some people seem to think
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