Maybe mr plow is right and his swimwear model wife with ridiculous body and good looks is proof that morata is just not a shallow guy.
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Maybe mr plow is right and his swimwear model wife with ridiculous body and good looks is proof that morata is just not a shallow guy.
The average looking Polish woman in my town looks nothing like her...
But anyway, back on topic. Is it even worth making a silly bid for Mbappe (just for tit for tat)?
So according to that, he's better than Aguero? Tells you all you need to know about those stats. He's bang average all around, will be waiting for everyone to realise then when he plays week in, week out in the prem.He has similar stats to ibra and kane, he better than martial and rashford and people are still posting
"he's not good enough, he should only be the back up to a big name"
Forget about how ugly his wife is, his eyebrows are complete shit.
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What!? She's fecking gorgeous man.
Also, not to nitpick, but Polish and Germanic babes are different looking.
This. Though wouldn't say 'bang average', just don't think he's good enough to be main CF for a team that wants to win the PL.
Although I hope that I'm wrong.
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Bang average? Surely not
If there is no talks then why has Morata taken a break from his honeymoon?
Or could be a case of Perez actually telling the truth in his mind, they arent in talks because Madrids stance is clear. Pay what they want or no deal and theres no negotiation.
Or he could just be lying through his teeth.
Or could be a case of Perez actually telling the truth in his mind, they arent in talks because Madrids stance is clear. Pay what they want or no deal and theres no negotiation.
Or he could just be lying through his teeth.
"i can't argue the stats so i'll just say they are crap"
I feel Morata has similar attributes to Kane.
When Zlatan was injured and I thought United needed to sign a second striker to play with Griezmann, I thought Morata would be ideal because he has the perfect style to play with him and (ironically) I thought he'd be cheap! Still wanting him now may be due to my lack of knowledge of other candidates but I do prefer him to Kane.
I don't want United to sign Kane, Dier or Alli. While they are excellent players for Spurs, I think a huge part of that is how well the team is set up and I don't think any of them would be anywhere near as effective in another team.
I would be happy to try 4-4-2 some games and play Martial AND Morata upfront. I mean why not? our best performance was vs Chelsea. Pogba and Matic/Fabinho CM, whoever LM. or just go 3 4 3 with Morata, Martial and Miki as strikers. The more players we commit up top, could alleviate our lacks of goals, if we cannot manage to sign anyone else.
That's not what I was talking about. It's about expecting Valencia to improve his bad crossing (no argument there) at his age and at this stage of his career. That's setting up yourself for disappointment and a way to criticize both Valencia and José in the futur.
They're not completely dissimilar but I like Morata's mobility.
according to squawka, in 32 league games, Rashford completed 39 successful take-ons with a 46% success rate, 6 goals and assists combined.
in 25 games Martial completed 45 take-ons with 56% success rate, 10 goals and assists combined
who scored has Rashford completing 1.2 dribbles per game to Martials 1.8. Stats don't tell the whole story and that said, almost all accounts suggest Rashford is more of a trier than natural talent.
Martial has that languid style, does not mean he ain't bothered. He just needs to be fed repeatedly.
Yeah I'm hoping we try a 4-4-2 this season as I think that's one formation where we could maximise the potential in our squad, and a combo of Martial/Morata could be tasty up front. 3-4-3 would be interesting too.
As you say, we need to do something significant in any case as the lack of goals last season was a real cause for concern. I think we create a lot which is great, but not having two or three players to contribute with 10-15 goals as well as Zlatan was criminal last season. I would like us to sign an additional striker or change formation as you said. Regarding Morata, I think he is a really tidy player and strikes me as one who mops up chances, so if we keep the chances coming, hopefully he can excel for us.
Ah I get you. Personally I'd rather he became a squad player and we replaced him but doubt it'll happen
Thing is, basically all realistic options are underwhelming this summer. Griezmann would have been great but Lacazette, Lukaku, Morata... hard to get excited about either of them to be honest. We weren't linked with Aubameyang, Mbappe looks like a no-go - not that I know much about him, I saw him maybe twice this season -, and who else is even there? The Lewandowski rumours were clearly bullshit from the start. Alexis Sanchez has no reason to come here really, if he would leave Arsenal.
So yeah. Morata is a bit meh but probably the best striker we can get. It's all a bit bleak really.
The Griezmann situation really has set us back and I'm so disappointed with him not having the mentality either, clearly not got the drive needed. Would you ever have seen Ronaldo stay out of loyalty when in just 6 months they could sign players again? Ridiculous.
Morata has the potential to be a great player for us but we need another attacking signing to get the best out of him. He's much more mobile than Zlatan which can only be a good thing considering how static we were at times last year. We did create a lot of chances but I'd like to see a more fluid system which I think Morata will help with by running the channels, running in behind and creating moments for others.
Overrated, bang average player who on top of that has an ugly looking wife.
Wow.
Wow.
Lacazette would be extremely exciting. He's a very good striker.
Pretty much this, it's insane how the hype grows every day.
Morata always struck me as more mobile but Kane is more selfish and ruthless. Think Kane is a better striker but Morata is a better all round player.
Don't have time now to go through his goals but many of them are also a product of a great movement where he loses his marker and staying composed while finishing these chances. There are certainly no many poacher's goals.
As for other things you said, I always thought that the plan was Griezmann behind Morata which would make perfect sense. We must now find some alternative solution (new number 10/goal scoring winger) or a different set up which will get the most of our other players that we have in the club.
disagree. Kane is very mobile. He can also come deep and has played in the hold. Kane has also scored a few bangers this year and in no way do I see that Morata is a better all round player. No way what so ever.
The question is, why are we letting Real drag us into a bidding war over a player that is not that outstanding? He's a good striker, but for every Morata, there's a Belotti or a Lacazette. I know Lacazette in particular is a different type of player, but we can't be that hell bent on signing Morata that Real can demand 80+ million if we can have Lacazette for less as it seems.
Offer them 65, perhaps even 70 million, talk to Morata and tell him he can earn good money while being our number one striker and that 70 million, an amount that shows we want him but are not getting dragged through the mud for him, are on the table and that he'll have to talk to Real about getting out of there if he really wants to join us.
Quite honestly, I don't even think our goal scoring problem lies up top. Our general struggle to score was present even while we had Ibra, who was one of the PL's top scorers. Now one could argue he simply prevented our attack from being even worse but even so, do. we really create great chances? Or do we simply create lots of low-percentage chances? I think it's the latter and the problem lies with our full-backs, perhaps a bit with our midfield and our wing play instead of with a striker. And perhaps it also was a problem if changing from van Gaal to Mourinho.
Either way, I don't think bringing in a quality striker is the key solution to our goal scoring problem and that we shouldn't go balls out on a decent but not great striker like Morata.
Offer them 65, perhaps even 70 million, talk to Morata and tell him he can earn good money while being our number one striker and that 70 million, an amount that shows we want him but are not getting dragged through the mud for him, are on the table and that he'll have to talk to Real about getting out of there if he really wants to join us.
Quite honestly, I don't even think our goal scoring problem lies up top. Our general struggle to score was present even while we had Ibra, who was one of the PL's top scorers. Now one could argue he simply prevented our attack from being even worse but even so, do. we really create great chances? Or do we simply create lots of low-percentage chances? I think it's the latter and the problem lies with our full-backs, perhaps a bit with our midfield and our wing play instead of with a striker. And perhaps it also was a problem if changing from van Gaal to Mourinho.
Either way, I don't think bringing in a quality striker is the key solution to our goal scoring problem and that we shouldn't go balls out on a decent but not great striker like Morata.
Our problem lies with the wingers and full backs,if we can solve that we won't have any problem in thrashing teams at Old Trafford.
Asked and answered.
Mourinho has specific targets with specific attributes. He isn't going to suddenly go "feck me, this is getting a bit expensive Ed, bring me that other lad so we can save a few quid!" just because that player is available.
I'm not saying Kane's not mobile - he can drop deep and play but, for me, he's more of a pure number 9 than Morata, who can operate anywhere around the front 3. Morata is quick, technically good, strong in the air and can hold the ball up effectively. His goal scoring record has regularly been questioned, his all round game hasn't.
Last season we were the 8th highest goal scorers despite having the 4th most shots and the most big chances missed of any side.
If our finishing had been at an acceptable level we would have been in the top four. If we had had a good season in front of goal we would have challenged for the title.
The thing is that we need goals and Lukaku and Lacazette are consistent goalscorers.
Lacazette averages around 30 goals per season in his last 4 years, you don't get much consistent than that, Lukaku has scored over 100 goals since moving to the PL, while Morata has scored less than 60 goals since he made his debut in 2010.
Morata's biggest quality is that Mourinho wants him and Madrid will take us to the cleaners because of that.
Except that it sets a precedent for future transfers. Just wait it out and United will pay up. If Morata truly wants to join us, then him and his agent will take care of the situation. If not, then it's on to the next target. I understand that we'll always have to pay a bit more than others, but that doesn't mean we'll have to get dragged around by the horns.
I'm curious about the "big chances" aspect you're mentioning because that's contradict my theory of us having lots of chances, but them being of low quality. Is there any way to find the data regarding the big chances point you're mentioning?
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_missed?se=54
2 more than City and at least 9 more than anyone else.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/big_chance_missed
Ibrahimovic missed at least 5 more big chances than any other player.
You just summed up this place right now,
.I'd love to see a study on match day thread postings and transfer thread postings.
I hope this falls through if the price quoted is true.
Funny, I remember quite a few people reluctant to sign Pogba last year too.
They soon changed their mind after a few games of actually watching him though didn't they?
They soon changed their mind after a few games of actually watching him though didn't they?
Interesting stuff, thanks. Just a side-note, but given how much stick Rashford gets for not being a good finisher, he seems to be ranked pretty low there, eben relatively speaking.
I figured Ibrahimovic wouldn't look
too well in such a category. The eye-test/memory always made it seem that he missed a good amount of quality chances. At the same time, is Morata gonna be an
improvement over him?
I know he's scored a decent amount of goals given the minutes he's played for Real, but one always has to wonder whether he simply scored them against mediocre opposition while playing for one of the best offensive teams if not the best offensive team in the world.
And then there's his time at Juve as well. There are doubts, but perhaps one has to live with it given that alternatives, which suit Mourinho's style, appear to be lacking.
Yea. Wazza can carry us through the next season and a few more quid in the Glazers pocket? Super duper
There were also lots of people excited about the signing of Schweinsteiger. It goes both ways. I'm pretty sure most have seen Morata play though as is the case with the Pogba.
And for what it's worth, as much as I'm in the pro-Pogba camp, the jury is still out on him as well.
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