Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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Your criteria seems Premier League proven, but Aubameyang, Benzema, Lewandowski and the like clearly wouldn't flop.
Benzema and Lewandowski are going nowhere. Aubameyang is still a risk.
 
Bullshit that Kane or Lukaku are safer bet. We signed PL proven players before and they didn't delivered. Schneiderlin was the last one, before him there were Shaw, Berbatov... PL proven doesn't mean a lot and there are evidences of that every season. Every transfer is a risk simple as that.
I agree that the PL proven argument is not valid, but Berbatov was brilliant for us.
 
It's as simple as this. If this forum were asked 6 months ago to name the top 25 strikers in Europe, Morata wouldn't be in many peoples lists.

Now all of a sudden he is top 10, has untold potential and worth £60m plus. If Man Utd want to get back to being one of Europes best 3 or 4 clubs, we have to sign players who are the top 3 or 4 in their position. Not over pay for mediocre players and in our minds, build them up to be the best.

There's something very wrong happening at United in terms of who we are able to attract to the club and it needs sorting out ASAP. (Pogba was a Manc through and through, so signing him wasn't a challenge)
 
Looks like Morata is coming back from his honeymoon. Seen him post up an insagram story where his wife is in airport terminal. Hopefully we hear an update soon.
 
It's as simple as this. If this forum were asked 6 months ago to name the top 25 strikers in Europe, Morata wouldn't be in many peoples lists.

Now all of a sudden he is top 10, has untold potential and worth £60m plus. If Man Utd want to get back to being one of Europes best 3 or 4 clubs, we have to sign players who are the top 3 or 4 in their position. Not over pay for mediocre players and in our minds, build them up to be the best.

There's something very wrong happening at United in terms of who we are able to attract to the club and it needs sorting out ASAP. (Pogba was a Manc through and through, so signing him wasn't a challenge)
Let's spend the summer trying to sign Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm sure nothing can go wrong with that plan. :rolleyes:
 
Let's spend the summer trying to sign Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm sure nothing can go wrong with that plan. :rolleyes:

Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.
That's not true. Also how can 8 players be in the top 3/4 of that position?
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.

The only one we'd get for less than 70mil from that list is Lacazette and he's not as good as Morata. We could get Auba but his wage demands are twice that of Morata and he'd not be a great fit for the system we play.
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.
I doubt it somehow. Also anybody with half a brain could score a load of goals for the top sides in France.
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.

I get your general point, but they aren't outscoring him per minute, in a top league.
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.
You said top 3 or 4 in the world, which these players are NOT. Also, with the exception of Lacazette, I don't think they'd be cheaper than Morata.
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.

Kane would be impossible to buy from Tottenham for less than about £150 million and even then I doubt Levy would sell to us.
If you think we could get him for less than £70m then you've gone spare.
 
That's not true. Also how can 8 players be in the top 3/4 of that position?

I was referring to the top 25 that I originally said Morata wouldn't have been in, 6 months ago.

And why is it not true? Dortmund openly saying Aubameyang would cost £63m. Lacazette being sold to arsenal for £44m. Cavani at his age wont cost more than 70m. etc

All cheaper and better options in my humble opinion.
 
I was referring to the top 25 that I originally said Morata wouldn't have been in, 6 months ago.

And why is it not true? Dortmund openly saying Aubameyang would cost £63m. Lacazette being sold to arsenal for £44m. Cavani at his age wont cost more than 70m. etc

All cheaper and better options in my humble opinion.
Cavani who might score loads, but misses absolute sitters in a league with not much pressure. He would go into meltdown here.
 
Let's spend the summer trying to sign Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez or Lewandowski. I'm sure nothing can go wrong with that plan. :rolleyes:

Obviously the best are never available, but we can give the opportunity to 2nd tier players to play for a top club with top players and take their game up a level and become one of the best. Morata had this opportunity 3 times now(twice for Madrid and for Juve) and failed each time, it's fairly obvious that he will never be a striker capable of leading the line for one of the best clubs in the world, where we aim to be.
 
I was referring to the top 25 that I originally said Morata wouldn't have been in, 6 months ago.

And why is it not true? Dortmund openly saying Aubameyang would cost £63m. Lacazette being sold to arsenal for £44m. Cavani at his age wont cost more than 70m. etc

All cheaper and better options in my humble opinion.
PSG don't sell their best players unless you have not noticed.
 
Maybe even 150.

Spurs don't want to sell their best players. It's amazing how many don't seem to understand that.
Exactly. Why would they do that at the moment? New stadium on the way, CL football, bright young manager. If they don't win something soon, some of their players might get itchy feet, but until then nobody is going anywhere. Even then Levy will rinse us.
 
Obviously the best are never available, but we can give the opportunity to 2nd tier players to play for a top club with top players and take their game up a level and become one of the best. Morata had this opportunity 3 times now(twice for Madrid and for Juve) and failed each time, it's fairly obvious that he will never be a striker capable of leading the line for one of the best clubs in the world, where we aim to be.

How did he fail at Juventus out of interest?
He did pretty well there, hence Madrid taking him back!

And it's a fairly high benchmark you're using at writing someone off for failing at the greatest current club side!
 
Obviously the best are never available, but we can give the opportunity to 2nd tier players to play for a top club with top players and take their game up a level and become one of the best. Morata had this opportunity 3 times now(twice for Madrid and for Juve) and failed each time, it's fairly obvious that he will never be a striker capable of leading the line for one of the best clubs in the world, where we aim to be.
I don't understand how his time at Madrid or Juve can be considered failures. He outscored Benzema this last season at Madrid.
 
Exactly. Why would they do that at the moment? New stadium on the way, CL football, bright young manager. If they don't win something soon, some of their players might get itchy feet, but until then nobody is going anywhere. Even then Levy will rinse us.

The flashy stadium, foreign manager and European nights are all great until not winning anything hits home, like you said. I'm sure a lot of their exciting players know this and would grab an opportunity to play for a bigger team with both hands.

Spurs are doing well but that means nothing if you don't have trophies to show for it at the end of your career
 
I don't understand how his time at Madrid or Juve can be considered failures. He outscored Benzema this last season at Madrid.
Also how many chances did he get, he was there that was all. They wouldn't dare drop Ronaldo, Benzema must have something on Perez and he links well with Ronaldo, maybe he has stuff on Ronaldo as well. Bale is one of Perez's shiny toys. Although he has said one of them will be sold to get Mbappe, nice loyalty that to show to players who have served you well. He didn't even include Morata in that.
 
The flashy stadium, foreign manager and European nights are all great until not winning anything hits home, like you said. I'm sure a lot of their exciting players know this and would grab an opportunity to play for a bigger team with both hands.

Spurs are doing well but that means nothing if you don't have trophies to show for it at the end of your career
We can't wait a couple of years until the loyalty to Spurs wears off.
 
Exactly. Why would they do that at the moment? New stadium on the way, CL football, bright young manager. If they don't win something soon, some of their players might get itchy feet, but until then nobody is going anywhere. Even then Levy will rinse us.
There is a level of delusion with some that things are just as they used to be and that if we just flash the cash the player will be ours.

We aren't getting Spurs players. There is a reason Fergie stopped going after Spurs players.

Everton are demanding 100m for bloody Lukaku and some people think we can sign Kane for less than 70 mil.
 
Obviously the best are never available, but we can give the opportunity to 2nd tier players to play for a top club with top players and take their game up a level and become one of the best. Morata had this opportunity 3 times now(twice for Madrid and for Juve) and failed each time, it's fairly obvious that he will never be a striker capable of leading the line for one of the best clubs in the world, where we aim to be.

Is there a way to save posts for future use? :smirk: :D
 
Aubameyang? Cavani? Kane? Lazazette? All getting more goals, all potentially cheaper than £70m.

This is the mentality that is cementing us into mediocrity. Not only accepting second best, but over paying for it too.
I get your point but I'd argue under Mourinho, so far, our recruitment has been good. We've signed 5 players, maybe 1 has been a slight disappointment but Mikhi was a big part of the best thing to happen to us last season.

I feel we're past our bad recruitment phase, or at least I hope we are. Based on our recruitment under Jose. Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, Memphis, Fellaini etc symbolise our terrible recruitment policy over the last few years, but slowly we're sorting that issue, in my opinion anyway.

The way I see it, if we sign him, our manager thinks hes the right player for us. And I'm happy to trust the manager with this one.
 
Obviously the best are never available, but we can give the opportunity to 2nd tier players to play for a top club with top players and take their game up a level and become one of the best. Morata had this opportunity 3 times now(twice for Madrid and for Juve) and failed each time, it's fairly obvious that he will never be a striker capable of leading the line for one of the best clubs in the world, where we aim to be.
If you're just going to spout drivel, why are you even here? You'd think it'd be an advantage to actually have some knowledge about the subject being discussed, but you seem to pride yourself on your ignorance.
 
Two weeks today until the boys head out to the US, you'd like to think he and others will be in the door by then.
 
I doubt it somehow. Also anybody with half a brain could score a load of goals for the top sides in France.

And anyone who doesn't meet the criteria starts posting on the caf :lol:.

Not seen Morata play more than twice so can't really comment. Fee seems a bit extortionate.
 
I don't understand how his time at Madrid or Juve can be considered failures. He outscored Benzema this last season at Madrid.

Mate, he's 25 in a couple of months and he failed to establish himself as a starter for any team he played so far. Ok, this year he had a strong attack ahead of him, but what about in his 2 years in Turin, how did he start only half of the games if he's such a great striker? Not to mention that he scored once every 3 games if not 4.

But, it's ok, I'm sure everybody saw him score in the CL final so he must be a top top striker.

We all laughed last year when Madrid bought him for 30m and now, after another year on the bench, suddenly he's worth 80?

And it's a fairly high benchmark you're using at writing someone off for failing at the greatest current club side!

My apologies for wanting a top striker, I was under the impression that Manchester United's aim is to be the best.
 
My apologies for wanting a top striker, I was under the impression that Manchester United's aim is to be the best.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a proven striker but there aren't any available right now, so we have to choose the best option we can from the riskier options that are available.
 
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