For all the bullshit reports out there, I really hope this one is true and that he'll be a Manchester United player very soon.
Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player
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Morata is definitely the target that makes the most sense, at the moment. Last season might have been his first consistently high-scoring one, but his quality has now been proven (and attested to by several players and managers) over three regular first-team seasons for a big European side. We'll have to overpay, but at least we'll know what we're getting.
And he has the two attributes we really need from a man up front at the moment: he's clinical in front of goal, and he shows up in the big games.
Plus he has a cool name. And we can add him to our collection of friendly Spaniards.
Agreed.
Remember back to that glorious summer when we signed Nani and Anderson (at the time two of the most promising up and coming players in Europe) in the space of a day.....ahhhh the good ol' days!
We are very quiet. Now that zlatan is gone, this one is vital!
We'll have this done by the end of the week. I think our briefings to the press about our non-interest in Ronaldo was a bit of a smoother with Perez.
Wasn't that said last week?
48 hours. About 2 weeks ago.
This thread just reminded me about a bunch of emails I received every day from my previous firm while I was on my honeymoon, despite automatic response. Feckers.
There is definitely more than bs reports in this one. Confirmed interest from our side, his side, agreed terms with the player. We just have to wait.
There is definitely more than bs reports in this one. Confirmed interest from our side, his side, agreed terms with the player. We just have to wait.
I wonder if the people who want Morata here still don't want James Rodriguez cause he's a "Madrid reject"?
Morata was rejected by Madrid twice lol. I seriously hope we don't buy him. I just have a feeling it'll be a bad transfer. The same feeling I had when Depay, Schweinsteiger and Martial joined us.
In my opinion certain players just LOOK like United players and Morata isn't one of them. James on the other hand looks like a United player to me. The ideal successor to Wayne Rooney in my eyes.
Morata was rejected by Madrid twice lol. I seriously hope we don't buy him. I just have a feeling it'll be a bad transfer. The same feeling I had when Depay, Schweinsteiger and Martial joined us.
In my opinion certain players just LOOK like United players and Morata isn't one of them. James on the other hand looks like a United player to me. The ideal successor to Wayne Rooney in my eyes.
Who should be playing as our no 9 next season?
So Martial was a bad signing?
Lukaku and Rashford in my opinion.
Have no desire to see Morata, Belotti or Icardi. In my opinion they would all flop in a United shirt. Lukaku is a proven Premier League striker and he is attainable.
So in which specific areas is Lukaku better than the other strikers that makes him worth more than them (beyond the privilege of playing in the ZPL) cos he is likely the most expensive option?
I would say so. I'm still not convinced he's a United player.
He had a good season last year. Not a brilliant season by any means but he finished as our top scorer which probably makes him look a little better than he actually was.
Last season was woeful, seling Hernandez and RVP for no reason and literally deciding to rely on a past it Rooney to score all our goals. It's no wonder LVG got sacked. Our fortunes only turned around when Rashford was brought into the fold. Then we won the FA Cup and the rest is history.
This season he's shown nothing. And the more I see him play for us, the more I'm convinced he's simply not suited to a Mourinho team. He never runs in behind and always wants the ball to his feet which is bloody frustrating to watch. Hes also not particularly fast and a lot of the games he's invisible and/or couldn't be arsed.
If we were to recoup some of the 50m we paid for him, I would probably take it. People are moaning about the Perisic deal but it would probably be a good thing if we were to get say, 40m for Martial and get Perisic cause at least he's what Mourinho wants and needs for the system and that means more success.
Being proven in the Premier League is a massive bonus for me. How long has it been since we signed a BIG Premier League player? Mata? We need to make a statement and replacing Ibra with one of the best strikers in the league sounds a lot better to me than giving 65-80m for a Real Madrid bench warmer. A transfer that won't even harm their team in the long run. And this is a team that valued the best keeper in the world at only 60m.
Rodriguez would be the ideal Madrid signing for me. He can replace Rooney.
I think Lukaku can be for us, what Drogba was to Chelsea. If we let one of our rivals get him, I think we'll seriously regret it.
You have listed 3 strikers that you felt we should sign lukaku ahead of even if he would be more expensive, and the best reason you can provide is "proven in the Premier League"?
None of Ibra, RvN, Costa nor Drogba was Pl proven and they did just fine.
Personally I am not a big fans of Lukaku due to his overall play. I don't mind though if we can get him since we need someone who can score goals but for 90m pounds (More expensive than Morata), he needs to be able to do other or more stuff not just scoring goals. His overall play is just scoring goals and beat his men with strength and speed but first touch, ball control, passing are still not good.
But I understand why you want Lukaku since he's a proven PL striker. Fair enough.
Well, our opinions differ a lot. Time will definitely tell, though. I think Martial is one of the biggest talents around and he is a truly brilliant player.
You can have all the talent in the world,but if you don't have the determination to succeed then that talent is worthless.
Whenever i see Martial play,I think he lacks hunger and determination and i think most will agree on that.
Ben Arfa ,Robinho they were all the biggest talents in their generation but talent alone can't take you places
I think this one was always going to be put on hold until Ronaldo's toys are firmly back in the pram.
All those guys have that special something. Morata doesn't.
Yup. Just scores for fun when played even against the likes of Real, Bayern and Barca in CL knockouts. Nothing about him... Not compared to Lukaku who holds the ball up so well and scores in all the big games. Oh wait. What?
We don't need someone who scores in the big games. We need someone who scores against the Watfords and Burnleys.
I've seen Morata play and to be honest I'm not convinced. Most of his goals are scrappy and everyone used to complain when Chicharito did that, saying we should sell him. I completely disagree by the way. In fact I'd rather bring Chicharito back on the cheap than spend 80m for a player who's still got his heart in Madrid.
Fifty million down the drain.....
Its perfectly all right not to rate a player but making things up is not acceptable I doubt you have even watched Morata's goals for last season otherwise you won't be spouting so much nonsense , most of his goals were good composed finishes and decent headers hardly scrappy barring few which happens with most of the strikers nothing unusual.
Ah yes - you need someone who scores against the small teams; go back just a bit and you'll find people moaning on this thread that Morata's awesome minutes:goals ratio is just because he scores only against the minnows and doesn't play the big games.
I have no idea where this "scrappy" goals thing comes from, since you say you've seen him play! He's a very composed finisher and scored at a better rate than 1 goal per 90 minutes played last season. That isn't a record one can scoff at. By your post, you admit he scores in "big games" and others accuse him of scoring only against the minnows. It's almost like people don't actually know and are just throwing random arguments around to support a viewpoint that says "don't buy him". Fact is, he's a bloody good striker and the best available right now i.e. the best of the strikers who is realistically for sale.
I'll never understand the fascination some people have with this "PL proven" bullshit.
Some of the best players the league has seen were signed from abroad.
Some of the best players the league has seen were signed from abroad.
Yeah. Same with shitting on French league when they have produced amazing players in the past and present.
Morata is not a Madrid reject as we wouldn't have so much problem bringing him in. The deal for James would be over by now and I am suspicious that we ever showed any real interest. Also, have doubts about James, his attitude and style of play which I'm not sure will suit this Mourinho side.
Leave aside his price tag. Young, motivated, big game player who wants to come here to be the main striker. Seems like a United player to me.
As for Lukaku, others have said. CL proven, La Liga proven > PL proven and what is the main thing, Morata has much more in his locker than Lukaku. The main question is whether he will reach his full potential (something like peak Torres) but you would have same worries with Lukaku as his record so far doesn't mean anything. Never tested in a big club, not so good in big matches.
Can they do it on a cold wet, windy night at Stoke though?
It's the same for managers. Conte, Ancelotti, Pellegrini and Jose won in their first seasons. Pochettino, Wenger, Rafa, Mancini and co didn't fare too badly either.
Anyway, back to Morata. How dare he put a marriage and honeymoon above the club. Mercenary. Do not want.
Nobody moaned about Chicharito scoring scrappy goals, they moaned about him because he had a shit first touch and all round game was poor, exactly the same reasons why a lot of people have mixed feelings about Lukaku.
PL proven and not enough physical also. And then the likes of David Silva and Modric come to the league and piss all over it.
Morata is a fantastic player and he is perfect for Mou style of play with 10 men behind the ball and counter, on top of that he has a fantastic record in CL. He is much better than Benzema, but Benzema plays because he is the best partner for Ronaldo
If you get him it will be a great signing we miss him a lot e he is a great guy
If you get him it will be a great signing we miss him a lot e he is a great guy
Juve CEO on Pogba;
Seriously, did no one follow that thread? It's like some of you purposely look for stuff to worry over.
So true
This.
When's he back from his honeymoon?
This is such a weird transfer, I don't like it at all. We're basically spending a huge amount of money on a player who showed feck all and already failed to impose himself for Juventus and for Madrid(twice).
He's like 25 and had one good season in his career and that was in one of the most dominating teams in the last 20 years.
So many things could go wrong with this transfer it's not even funny. And even if the stars align and he becomes the amazing player the money we spend suggest he is, judging by his career trajectory there is a big chance he will want to go back to Spain.
I keep reading this thread and so many people think he's amazing, it makes my head spin. I am guessing they base their opinion on the couple of CL games where he played well, or that he is some kind of football god in Fifa or FM.
Just keep in mind that last year we had a truly great striker leading the line and it wasn't enough, so is this guy really the answer to take us to the next level?
Also, he will expect to start every game, because he obviously won't bother changing the bench in Madrid for the one in Manchester.
People keep saying that this guy is preferable to the likes of Lukaku because he has better technique, but the truth is we need a reliable goal scorer first and foremost, which Morata certainly isn't.
Not to mention that by buying him we're basically giving Madrid money to buy Mbappe, a player who truly looks destined for greatness.
Well, considering that this transfer looks almost certain, I hope I'm wrong and all works out great for us.
He's like 25 and had one good season in his career and that was in one of the most dominating teams in the last 20 years.
So many things could go wrong with this transfer it's not even funny. And even if the stars align and he becomes the amazing player the money we spend suggest he is, judging by his career trajectory there is a big chance he will want to go back to Spain.
I keep reading this thread and so many people think he's amazing, it makes my head spin. I am guessing they base their opinion on the couple of CL games where he played well, or that he is some kind of football god in Fifa or FM.
Just keep in mind that last year we had a truly great striker leading the line and it wasn't enough, so is this guy really the answer to take us to the next level?
Also, he will expect to start every game, because he obviously won't bother changing the bench in Madrid for the one in Manchester.
People keep saying that this guy is preferable to the likes of Lukaku because he has better technique, but the truth is we need a reliable goal scorer first and foremost, which Morata certainly isn't.
Not to mention that by buying him we're basically giving Madrid money to buy Mbappe, a player who truly looks destined for greatness.
Well, considering that this transfer looks almost certain, I hope I'm wrong and all works out great for us.
I don't get it why is everyone so concerned about it? They will get the money anyway, if not from us then from other clubs. I don't care who they will buy.
We should give money to Madrid but ask them not to spend it on Mbappe.
Also what should we do, maybe get Mbappe who wants to play for Madrid anyway?
Also what should we do, maybe get Mbappe who wants to play for Madrid anyway?
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