Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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Wednesday at Stoke said:
They sold us a player who didn't want to come here for atleast 10M extra knowing how desperate we were at that late juncture in the transfer window.

There's negotiating in good faith and then there's holding players up for ransom, which Madrid do.
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How is it them 'doing us' again then?

We've bought a fecking player who didn't want to come here, I'm not even sure where you pull this extra 10 mil from, because we needed somebody creative. How do you hold it against Madrid? It's a slaves trade now? Do you hold a grudge against Everton for us buying Fellaini over his clause? Against SOTON because Schneiderlin turned out to be shit?
 
Ventura said:
So give them the €90m and get it done. There's no better option available/interested at a lower price, and RM have us over the barrel. "Just buy Auba" doesn't cut it because it's a lot more complicated than just going to the shop and buying a Snickers. The Snickers may not want to be eaten by you, the shop may have set a crazy high prize on it, or maybe you prefer a chocolate bar with less caramel and a different type of nuts in a slightly darker chocolate jacket because it perfectly complements the rest of your tasty candy meal. So yeah ...
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Ok let us get fleeced by every team we deal with, let us pay 60 million for Perisic. We have lost of money anyway we can afford to pay 60 million for Perisic too. Would you pay 90,000 for a car which costs just 60,000 just because you are filthy rich?
 
Miguel is getting his story from Marca. This week has just been a load of boring paper talk regarding Morata.
 
Morata goes for £70 million on a 5 year contract, the transfer is £14m/year.

Aubamayeng or Lacazette are both at their peak and would get a a shorter contract.

Let's say they both go for £60 million with Auba getting a 3 year contract and Lacazette a 4 year contract. That's £20m and £15m per year respectively.

If Morata goes for more than that then we cant magically get other strikers on the cheap; their prices will be higher because they know they can get higher.
 
In any case its gonna be interesting to see what we do, if we go after an alternative or pay over the odds for Morata. We'll definitely get a deal done for a #9, but seeing what we decide with is gonna really show if Mourinho believe Morata can really be monumental for us or if we'll just feck Madrid off.
 
Terminator said:
90m for Morata? Truly insane. Good striker with decent technique and speed but he ain't prime Fernando Torres.:lol:


Edit: Really overrated on here IMO, I'll be very surprised if he gets more than 15-20 goals next season if he does sign for us.
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Didn't Torres only have one season for Atletico where he scored more than 20 goals, the rest were around the 15 mark. Was fantastic for Liverpool as the team was set up to compliment his style. Shite at Chelsea and is currently shite in Madrid. If Morata arrives and has a similar impact in the next three years as Torres had at Liverpool would, in you're opinion, the fee be worth it?
 
We'll have to overpay for whichever striker we sign anyway as Zlatan's injury put us into a very unfavored position that signing a striker is the only option.
 
Zlatan's injury is going to cost us 90m euros and some on here thought that was a blessing in disguise :lol:
 
They have just priced him in the same ballpark as Lukaku and Belotti knowing that is the going rate for the striker options this summer.
 
M4YON said:
£78 million for a bench warming striker and people think we should pay it :wenger:
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Sky now saying 80m

Why don't we take a leaf out of RM's book, back off, let the player simmer and cause problems. Keep going to the press to say we want him. There's no way in hell we should be paying anywhere near that for Morata.
 
Let's just sign Hernandez back for 12m and be done with it. feck Madrid
 
Pretty sure a sizable portion of the fee will be dependent on clauses.
Like us winning the league/top scorer kind of crap.
 
I'd just leave it for a bit, ultimately they need to sell him if they want to get Mbappe, & there is no way any other club will pay €90 m for him, just leave them to it for a while, whilst looking elsewhere for a few weeks.

Of course these figures could all be bull & we'll announce this soon at around €60 m, which would be about right, even if I do have reservations about this player.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Sky now saying 80m

Why don't we take a leaf out of RM's book, back off, let the player simmer and cause problems. Keep going to the press to say we want him. There's no way in hell we should be paying anywhere near that for Morata.
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Sky's article says £78 million but the headline leads with £80 million for more dramatic effect/click bait.

I agree we should back off for a bit, Morata wants to be the main man somewhere and Madrid won't give him that so he wont like them sabotaging the deal with a ludicrous price.
 
90 million? Real can go feck themselves. I don't care if he's Mourinho type of player or not, this is ridiculous. Suarez went to Barca for like 60 off the back of a magnificent season rivaling Ronaldo just 3 years ago, and we're here paying 90 million for some unproven striker with meh potential who's not even a starter at Real.

Can you imagine what will happen next season when they see us paying that type of cash for Perisic and Morata?

Real are taking the piss, tell them to feck off and buy someone else. Morata isn't the only striker open for move in this window and he sure ain't the best
 
SachinJ22 said:
Ok let us get fleeced by every team we deal with, let us pay 60 million for Perisic. We have lost of money anyway we can afford to pay 60 million for Perisic too. Would you pay 90,000 for a car which costs just 60,000 just because you are filthy rich?
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No, because there are tons of identical cars manufactured, as many as you like, and there's no need to overpay because you can pay regular price at any dealer. The football market is a little different from that.

You're saying we should go for a budget option. That also means lower quality, and we'll forever be a 6th place team. Unless you can name an equal or higher quality striker who would realistically be available at a lower price, and who would fit in our team.
 
People talking about moving to other options as if they are sure if we went to ask BVB for Auba they won't ask for 100m. Each club knows we want a striker heavily and they aren't forced to sell so they will ask for a ridiculous price for him from us.

We'll have to pay over 70m to get a striker, deal with it or let's depend on Rashford for another top 4 battle next season.
 
This is the same as last summer with the prices for Pogba.

Lots of hign prices been reported, lets just wait for the final sum before we have meltdowns.
 
Ventura said:
No, because there are tons of identical cars manufactured, as many as you like, and there's no need to overpay because you can pay regular price at any dealer. The football market is a little different from that.

You're saying we should go for a budget option. That also means lower quality, and we'll forever be a 6th place team. Unless you can name an equal or higher quality striker who would realistically be available at a lower price, and who would fit in our team.
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Belotti, Auba, Lukaku, Lacazette are all better and more proven strikers than Morata and they would cost the same amount of money, maybe even less. We're getting absolutely robbed here, I don't know how any of you ca nbe happy about this.

Belotti, for example, just finished his season with 30 goals with a mediocre team while Morata hasn't ever managed to get past 15 in a season with REAL MADRID. Let's be real here.
 
GJNJ said:
This is the same as last summer with the prices for Pogba.
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Difference is Pogba is a proven player and one of the best midfielders in the world, also coming of a great season with Juve. Who the feck is Morata that we should pay that much? The next Messi?
 
Dumat12 said:
90 million? Real can go feck themselves. I don't care if he's Mourinho type of player or not, this is ridiculous. Suarez went to Barca for like 60 off the back of a magnificent season rivaling Ronaldo just 3 years ago, and we're here paying 90 million for some unproven striker with meh potential who's not even a starter at Real.
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Suarez was a head case and tried to feck off to Arsenal the season before (for 49m). Also people keep saying he's not a starter yet he played a similar amount of games as Benzema last season, which was sort of his breakout season.
Dumat12 said:
Belotti, Auba, Lukaku, Lacazette are all better and more proven strikers than Morata and they would cost the same amount of money, maybe even less. We're getting absolutely robbed here, I don't know how any of you ca nbe happy about this.
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Stopped reading at Lacazette tbh.
 
el3mel said:
People talking about moving to other options as if they are sure if we went to ask BVB for Auba they won't ask for 100m. Each club knows we want a striker heavily and they aren't forced to sell so they will ask for a ridiculous price for him from us.

We'll have to pay over 70m to get a striker, deal with it or let's depend on Rashford for another top 4 battle next season.
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Yup, exactly, this is something people tend to overlook, it's not just those cnuts from Madrid who'll make us overpay, it will be literally everbody unless the player in question has a clause, which even then might get complicated.
 
M4YON said:
£78 million for a bench warming striker and people think we should pay it :wenger:
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I think we need to look elsewhere,I know striker option is limited at the movement but price of 78M is too high.We can't build team in one summer:rolleyes:
 
mu4c_20le said:
Suarez was a head case and tried to feck off to Arsenal the season before (for 49m). Also people keep saying he's not a starter yet he played a similar amount of games as Benzema last season, which was sort of his breakout season.
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Doesn't matter, Suarez single-handedly carried Liverpool to top 4 and competing for the title. Morata has done nothing in his career, literally. 24-25 years old and he still hasn't managed to break in Real's team (let's be real here, it's not like Benzema is a superb striker or anything) nor has he scored more than 20 goals for any team. And appearances don't really count when Benzema plays 80 min and then Morata comes in for the last 10.

Stopped reading at Lacazette tbh.
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Care to expalin why you think Morata is better than Lacazette?
 
M4YON said:
£78 million for a bench warming striker and people think we should pay it :wenger:
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Of course we should. Hes a quality player. We're desperate for a quality striker. There is no such thing as over paying. You pay what you have to. Madrid don't need to sell. We need to buy. There is no one better we can get for less.

vanderpants said:
Crazy isn't it. I don't think he will be a utd player and we have simethiing else up out selve
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This post :lol:
 
Dumat12 said:
Difference is Pogba is a proven player and one of the best midfielders in the world, also coming of a great season with Juve. Who the feck is Morata that we should pay that much? The next Messi?
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I prefer Morata for for 78m then the others mentioned at 86m.

The next Messi will cost you more even, mbeppe will cost 100M+ based with half of a great season under his belt.

I don't like the price but given the options, with zlatan's injury, our refusal to sell them ddg we don't have a great hand.

I doubt it will be as much as that initially but may rise with performance add-ons.
 
M4YON said:
£78 million for a bench warming striker and people think we should pay it :wenger:
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This shite again. Auba, Lacazette, and Belotti would all warm the bench at Real Madrid. I'm not overjoyed at the price - but what the actual feck is your point?
 
Dumat12 said:
...And appearances don't really count when Benzema plays 80 min and then Morata comes in for the last 10.
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But he has scored just as much if not more goals, thats my point. Just because he isn't a firm starter, doesn't necessarily take away from his ability. He could be a gem that's being underused, or imo, about to breakout into a star.
Care to expalin why you think Morata is better than Lacazette?
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I dont mean to be rude, but I would love it if you could explain why you think he is better or more proven, beacuse i'm not sure if you've watched Lyon enough. Besides playing at a league at a lower standard than La liga/serie A, he also squanders a lot of chances, in an environment where Memphis is ripping it up. There is a reason why only Arsenal are looking at him.
 
mu4c_20le said:
I dont mean to be rude, but I would love it if you could explain why you think he is better or more proven, beacuse i'm not sure if you've watched Lyon enough. Besides playing at a league at a lower standard than La liga/serie A, he also squanders a lot of chances, in an environment where Memphis is ripping it up. There is a reason why only Arsenal are looking at him.
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That isnt stopping people from raving about Mbappe and given the chance the entire cafe is 100% on board to sign him. He played in the same french league. Lacazette didnt just score 20 goals. He scored 37 goals in 45 appearances.
 
As the deal will be done in € and will be amortised over 4 years the exchange rate could look very different in a couple of years and the transfer could look a bargain if the pound strengthens.
 
Dumat12 said:
Belotti, for example, just finished his season with 30 goals with a mediocre team while Morata hasn't ever managed to get past 15 in a season with REAL MADRID. Let's be real here.
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Morata has been a backup to Benzema, who is essentially displaceable as the #9 in that attack, so you can't really compare numbers directly. Belotti scored more goals in the vastly greater playing time he got.

Based on average per 90 minutes, Morata still comes out on top. Do a Squawka comparison and see. Based on the playing time Morata has had, his numbers stack up well against all the other centre forward names being banded around.
 
M4YON said:
Sky's article says £78 million but the headline leads with £80 million for more dramatic effect/click bait.

I agree we should back off for a bit, Morata wants to be the main man somewhere and Madrid won't give him that so he wont like them sabotaging the deal with a ludicrous price.
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I got fully baited in that case!

We should 100% back off and start pursuing other targets. RM are a nightmare club to negotiate with and if we're looking at £80m surely it's worth probing (however unlikely) Bayern for Lewandowski? Arsenal for Sanchez? Tottenham for Kane?

All 3 are players I would rather see here.
 
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