Yeah, that wasnt thanks to Ronaldo, Kroos, Modric, Isco, Marcelo, Ramos, calibre of players we have here in Manchester.
Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player
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Can't see him.
Ronaldo isn't there either, but he's Nike so that's no surprise (it's an adidas branded video).
Not our fault the fixtures were that way, we beat tott and Chelsea in between after mourinho got to grips with the midfeild problem having being overestimated fellani an pogbas qualities to be a good pair and defensive block resulting in early defeats. After crucial Injuries we ha to focus on uel for direct qualification in pot 2.
Also I was specific to the epl having said you used 4th as a point.
So their second highest goalscorer for the season has nothing to do with it?
One other funny thing is how people bang on about the draws, even if he would be the difference between a win and a draw, do you guys remember how many games Ibra single-handedly won for us with moments of class, I think Morata isnt capable of. Mourinho relies a lot on individual brilliance in attack, we'll have less of it next season with the signings we are looking to make.
Well none of those players were linked because we initially had been linked with Griezmann and he was priority #1 IMO. We will have to change our sights to someone else.
We need a starting winger, Mata, Micky are more central players IMO and should be used as such if we're to play in 4-2-3-1.
Lemar is personal favorite think he has bright future ahead of him. Mertens is just two years older than Perisic and with Insigne it will be a big step up to come to United. Doubt playing his whole life in Italy would be a problem.
I'm just putting up some options for goalscoring wingers as there are lots of them, especially at the price range touted for Perisic.
Orrrrrrrr, #Ronback?
Not much with the CL, he did play his part in the league in which he did well. Whether that's good enough for us a starter is remained to be seen, especially with the calibre of players we have.
Actually same thing said on Lindelof and most people who watched Portuguese football said he's good. I don't mind if there's another club is in there or not actually, but everything about him is optimistic for me. At the end, we should wait and see.
Stones was proven yes, what makes him not ? He was a proven EPL defender before joining City, Otamendi was disappointing as you said, Mangala was a complete flop. I think all these names were wanted by some fans at some times.
Please just pay what it takes to get him so he's in for the first day of pre season
It's not our fault no but a very selective view imo, where you could argue Liverpool did outplay us at Anfield but was a very close match. It was a decent run but nothing special, we didnt close the gap at all, so dont really want to cream about it.
Ray Wilkins is that you?
We dont need just good tbh, we need someone who is miles better than Rojo to really strengthen us. His calibre seems more than a good squad addition than a player that will take us to the next level I think.
Stones isnt proven, just overhyped and English. Never been a fan of him, was absolutely dreadful at Everton too.
Dont know him, so yes. Lindelof is more of a nobody than Bailly was but it doesnt really matter too much, nobodies can make the difference too, like Kante. But I dont believe Lindelof is that good tbh, and is of the standard we should be looking for. But I hope he proves me wrong and ends up in TOTS next year.
Didn't think of that one.
My only answer is to wait and see him on the pitch before we can judge, and don't forget that our defense looks really solid this summer even with the continuous chopping and changing defenders due to injuries. I'm not worried at all about our defense. The attack is my main concern of this window.
Real wants to put a 120M bid and it doesn't look like Monaco is budging, and Mbappe himself is not overwhelmed by United so... what do we do? It's still a free world, we cannot force players to play for us just because we want to.
I swear some of you have never watched a Mourinho team before, this is the guy that bought Eto'o to play him on the wing. No way is he going after either of these players as his number 9, Morata fits, deal with it.
That's a very critical point. We need someone we can rely on when the plan A doesn't work, which is often in the current football world.
Also to be noted, didn't Chelsea make an approach earlier for Lindelof? On top of that perhaps discussions went so well late 2016/early 2017 that the deal was basically already in place so he was essentially unattainable for other teams?
It's not selective it's reality. And no , Liverpool dint outplay us at all we matched them toe to toe until rashfords injury after 75 mins while they kept meaning less possession between their centre halves and in their half itself passing it sideways and backwards as they knew about ibras inability to press high for his age. Both cancelled each other out in the middle of the park. As it is said the perfect game of football always finish 0-0.
We din't close the gap because of our blunt attacking without proper balance which will be fixed, because that's what the market is for.
Don't think we will have 15 draws again which would be down to 5 having taken opportunities in the game.
Out of 15 , 10 were atleast fully dominating draws resulting in 20 lost points for the blunt attack we had.
Wait by your logic if he bought a striker and a #9 to play him on the wing, then why cant he buy a winger and play him as a #9. But thats besides the point. I am not saying buy either of the two and play them as a striker. Just get them in the squad. That RW is for the taking. We are begging for some creativity and raw pace.
Also one thing with Morata is that he's very good in the air. We haven't had a consistent aerial threat for a while it seems. Makes a lot of smart, late runs in where he finds himself in space from the left. Could come in handy with some of the balls Herrera floats in. He also has a good understanding with Pogba.
Just my opinion but I think a lot of people will be made to look a bit silly looking back at this thread a few months from now.
Just my opinion but I think a lot of people will be made to look a bit silly looking back at this thread a few months from now.
Is it done yet? 
Im not the biggest Morata fan but even i think he will be better than Lacazette for us..Lacazette only scores tap ins while Morata can score with his head,both feet and hold up the ball well and if you know Mourinho you know Morata suits him much better.
We have plan B as target man fellani.
The attack starts from midfeild, once we fix the missing component which makes it better and more balanced we automatically score more goals and new attacking players are a plus .
I agree with what you are saying.
But, if we were to replace Ibra, with a like-for-like player, who is is available, right now, who will join us?
There just isn't anybody out there of Ibra's calibre, unless we go for Neymar, etc (who won't join us).
So, we need to focus on players who are a tier below Ibra, which Morata seems to fall into.
If Morata can bag 20 PL goals and 5 PL assists, he'll be considered a success year 1. No question.
Diego Costa, his first year at Chelsea was 20/3 - PL winner. Jamie Vardy two years ago was 24/8 - PL winner. Diego Costa this past year was 20/8 - PL winner.
Yes. Lindelof a ball playing defender with good passing ability should bring some calmness and open up some space, plus a new midfielder (whoever it is) will create more space for Pogba, Herrera and the attacking players. I think we will have more of a grip on games and obviously for the most part defensive positioning and shape wasn't an issue last season.
Difference is none of them went for 70m plus they had ample contribution from their teammates would contributed so much. If Morata only scored 20 and we have a year like last year then we are looking at a similar position next season as well.
Am I the only one who thinks goal per minute ratio isn't a reliable stat when it comes to players who mostly feature as a sub?
Are you friggin kidding me? Have you seen him play? He is two footed, he is technically sound, quicker than Morata, has a good first touch, a very good finisher, not selfish, scores cracking goals from outside the box, bring his teammates in play and interchanges with them well and despite his body size, he isnt bad at holding up play. He doesnt score many headers but thats about it.
This is current price for strikers in the market. Don't think we'll get a cheap great striker anymore. Any striker will cost 60-90m at best.
You probably are. You can't penalize the player because the manager opted to use him as a sub.
Reminder that Mou's 2004 season had no standout goalscorer and relied on contributions from all over the field. Lampard was top scorer with fewer than 15 goals.
He's no Zlatan but I doubt Mourinho would okay this transfer if he did not have a good enough reason to buy him.
Why don't you rate Benzema as high as Morata?
Of course not, and he does score goals when he plays, but in a way it's easier to come on as a sub when other players are tired, plus games tend to be more open when the end is near. It's a whole different thing trying to break down opposition from the start, rather than coming on as a sub and bagging goals on the counter, or when your team is pressing extremely hard for a winner/equalizer, especially if you play for Real Madrid.
This is irrelevant to whether I rate Morata or not, I just think goal/minute ratios don't give you the full picture for players who are mostly used as substitutes. Of course you can also argue he might've had more goals if he started more games, so it works both ways. Imo, it's not really a representative stat and takes things out of context a bit. I'm genuinely interested to see how he'll do as the main man for United when teams are defending deep.
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