Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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For all of you saying that this ludicrous fee is justified because there's only "three strikers we could go for", are you all this sheepish? You don't think we could lure any other good strikers to the club (outside top 10 in the world which Moratta most certainly is) with such a huge offer? Why on earth do Madrid supposedly hold all the cards when no other team seems willing to pay anything like what we're offering?

Ffs Ed, look elsewhere, Moratta is absurdly overpriced, he's really nothing special.
 
Devil_forever said:
For all of you saying that this ludicrous fee is justified because there's only "three strikers we could go for", are you all this sheepish? You don't think we could lure any other good strikers to the club (outside top 10 in the world which Moratta most certainly is) with such a huge offer? Why on earth do Madrid supposedly hold all the cards when no other team seems willing to pay anything like what we're offering?

Ffs Ed, look elsewhere, Moratta is absurdly overpriced, he's really nothing special.
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Jose has Morata on his transfer list. This isn't decided in a vacuum. And it's not only about "luring" good players, it's getting the right profile of person and player. When Madrid and United are at the transfer table, it's the big boy table and large sums of money will be talked about. Morata is attainable and realistic.
 
RDCR07 said:
Well no shit he is attainable. Not many teams will turn down 70m for their strikers. Every player is attainable for the right fee.
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This he is good but not €90m good and definitely not worth getting spanked by Madrid. We should definitely go for Lacazette or look at other targets that are not Morata, Lukaku or Belotti. If push comes to shove we should just buy goalscoring wingers.
 
RDCR07 said:
Well no shit he is attainable. Not many teams will turn down 70m for their strikers. Every player is attainable for the right fee.
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Not many teams will offer 70m for any old player, regardless of position. He's been identified as a key player to Jose's plans and there are many reasons, which we'll probably never know why, as to the reason why it's Morata and not a Lukaku, Belotti, Kane, Auba, etc.
 
itso 7 said:
This he is good but not €90m good and definitely not worth getting spanked by Madrid. We should definitely go for Lacazette or look at other targets that are not Morata, Lukaku or Belotti. If push comes to shove we should just buy goalscoring wingers.
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Name a goal scoring winger that would go to United...
 
lol Arsenal aren't selling us Sanchez.

besides, we need a striker. imagine, a front three of Mahrez (lol), Rashford and Miki. jesus wept.
 
ilovethisgameahahah said:
A Real Madrid fan:
He is an ok finisher but he is awful when tasked with contributing to build up play. He plays best when the team is sat deep defending looking to break on the counter. His first touch is also apparently poor.

Can anyone confirm this? people here have been making out like he's an elite technician.
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He's inconsisent and hasn't quite learned to play with his teammates, tends to try to do too much by himself. Those are his flaws. If Mou can coach it out of him and get him to perform consistently at something approaching his best, you're getting yourselves one of the best strikers in the world. If he can get him to consistently play at his best, you're getting a player as good as Bale

His first touch and technique are fine
 
Enigma_87 said:
Sanchez, Mahrez, Lemar, Mertens, Insigne, Moura, Keita (Lazio one).
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None of these players have been linked with United. With Morata, it fills a deep, deep need for the club. In addition to Morata, Griezmann was the second striker when United would go 4411.

Martial, Mkhitaryan, Mata, Lingard are the wide men with another one coming. How is it that United are linked with Perisic for so long yet none of these other wingers have been strongly linked to United?

Lemar is a pipe dream, but he's young and from Monaco...flavor of the month. Mertens is 30 and Insigne has played in Italy his entire life. The others have a shout, but do they have the right profile for Jose? It doesn't look like it but we'll see.
 
If we pay £70m for Morata it simply increases the value of De Gea to £100m minimum if Real want to play games
 
The thing is people are saying Dembele and Mbappe arent exactly the finished articles and we cant be relying on someone like them next season but are very happy to spend 70m on Morata who isnt anywhere near the finished article himself.
 
Infra-red said:
Arrant nonsense.

11 of Morata's 15 league goals came in games he started.

Of the 4 goals he scored from the bench, 2 were match-winning goals vs Villarreal and Athletic. The other 2 goals from the bench were his goal to make it 3-1 away at Deportivo and his goal to make it 3-0 at home to Sociedad.

Precisely none of his 15 league goals could be characterised as "goals in subs against tired defenders already trailing by 3, and 4".
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Alaves and Sociedad seems to be missing in your calculations. 2 matches he scored in while Real where leading. Played just more than 20 min in them. Which isnt necessarily a bad thing but boosts the goals per min stats. Also the starts vs useless team.
 
RDCR07 said:
The thing is people are saying Dembele and Mbappe arent exactly the finished articles and we cant be relying on someone like them next season but are very happy to spend 70m on Morata who isnt anywhere near the finished article himself.
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Dembele and Mbappe aren't center forwards for Jose. Morata is. In fact, Mbappe and Dembele aren't center forwards at all.
 
edcunited1878 said:
Dembele and Mbappe aren't center forwards for Jose. Morata is. In fact, Mbappe and Dembele aren't center forwards at all.
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It doesnt matter. You are still dependent on Morata to score goals right? The same way if we bring in those two French lads, you will be dependent on them to do well for us to win games? Realistically how many goals do you think he can score next year?
 
RDCR07 said:
The thing is people are saying Dembele and Mbappe arent exactly the finished articles and we cant be relying on someone like them next season but are very happy to spend 70m on Morata who isnt anywhere near the finished article himself.
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Well neither Dembele nor Mbappe are realistic options. That also contributes to things.
 
Sammyjunn said:
People here are gonna be surprised if we challenge for 4th again with Lindelof and Morata..
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Morata, Rashford, Rooney, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Mata, Pogba, Herrera, Lingard. Need another attacking player, which was looking like Griezmann. May have to wait for Griezmann until next year and Rooney's replacement (eventual).
 
septic said:
Well neither Dembele nor Mbappe are realistic options. That also contributes to things.
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Are you telling me if we did throw 120m at either of those teams, they wont be willing to talk? Not saying paying that much will definitely get them but they would be willing to give us a listen.
 
RDCR07 said:
It doesnt matter. You are still dependent on Morata to score goals right? The same way if we bring in those two French lads, you will be dependent on them to do well for us to win games?
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He will be our attacking third lynchpin. Score and contribute to goals. Rashford, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Mata, Lingard, Pogba, Rooney all have to increase their output. It's not just one player, but Morata will be be a key piece.
 
edcunited1878 said:
He will be our attacking third lynchpin. Score and contribute to goals. Rashford, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Mata, Lingard, Pogba, Rooney all have to increase their output. It's not just one player, but Morata will be be a key piece.
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How many goals have Morata have to score for you to be happy with his contribution next year?
 
Sammyjunn said:
People here are gonna be surprised if we challenge for 4th again with Lindelof and Morata..
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And also people should remember we never got outplayed the entire season from chelsea game to arsenal when we decided to focus on the uel with injury returnees, sure as hell we will improve more than the others.
 
DatIrishFella said:
Be absolute mental if United pay £70m for Morata. Fecking hell Madrid would be laughing.
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Not when the lukakus and belottis are going for 89m. Just because Morata ain't a world beater(currently) people think we are overpaying. He has all the tools to be world class and he has time on his side too. And surely, next year we could have another striker to partner him. We don't have better options. Move on with the fee.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Notice the if, I want to be proven wrong really badly but they dont fill me with much hope. We scream for proven quality and sign these two.
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Bailly wasn't a proven high quality last summer and he proved himself. Also notice how many supposed-to-be-quality defenders City signed past years and proven to be terrible. Center backs aren't about flashy names imo.

And I'm sure Morata will surprise you.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
Not when the lukakus and belottis are going for 89m. Just because Morata ain't a world beater(currently) people think we are overpaying. He has all the tools to be world class and he has time on his side too. And surely, next year we could have another striker to partner him. We don't have better options. Move on with the fee.
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ALEXANDRE LACAZETTE. 37, 23, 31 and 22 goals scored over the last 4 years.
 
prtk0811 said:
And also people should remember we never got outplayed the entire season from chelsea game to arsenal when we decided to focus on the uel with injury returnees, sure as hell we will improve more than the others.
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That's a bit selective. Period with the least tough matches, after getting beat by City home, and not sure if Feyenoord and Fenerbache away were in that timespan.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Notice the if, I want to be proven wrong really badly but they dont fill me with much hope. We scream for proven quality and sign these two.
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We just won the league and CL double with a striker I don't rate as high as Morata. All the people doubting him kind of makes me want him to sign for you and prove you all wrong.
 
RDCR07 said:
ALEXANDRE LACAZETTE. 37, 23, 31 and 22 goals scored over the last 4 years.
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Does he have everything in a striker which jose is looking for? I am sure if that was the case, our representatives would have been at lyon and not madrid.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Alaves and Sociedad seems to be missing in your calculations. 2 matches he scored in while Real where leading. Played just more than 20 min in them. Which isnt necessarily a bad thing but boosts the goals per min stats. Also the starts vs useless team.
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They were both included in the calculations and both specifically mentioned in my post.
 
I can't see him on Madrids promo video for their new home shirt. (Probably been discussed has it?).
 
Vato said:
We just won the league and CL double with a striker I don't rate as high as Morata. All the people doubting him kind of makes me want him to sign for you and prove you all wrong.
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You're just saying that to make yourself feel better because it's done, just not done yet.
 
Vato said:
We just won the league and CL double with a striker I don't rate as high as Morata. All the people doubting him kind of makes me want him to sign for you and prove you all wrong.
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You won the league and the CL because you have the best player in the world and the pieces around him in attack, midfield and defense who fit like a glove. Your starting XI can be the World XI except for striker, RW and GK. Our team isnt like that. He needs to do so much for us to be cohesive in attack since we dont have those pieces.
 
el3mel said:
Bailly wasn't a proven high quality last summer and he proved himself. Also notice how many supposed-to-be-quality defenders City signed past years and proven to be terrible. Center backs aren't about flashy names imo.

And I'm sure Morata will surprise you.
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Well more proven than Lindelof. Bailly was one of the best CB's in the La Liga with Barcelona and Man City very interested. Barca-watchers were gutten they lost him out to United. Most fans just dont knew him, no other club is interested in Lindelof nor has he done anything note-worthy. I hope to be pleasantly surprised, mind.

Please dont tell me Stones is proven, he's shite. Otamendi, has disappointed though, expected more of him.
 
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