Yeah aside from the fact Morata won everything there.
I think the Pogba-Morata connection is being underplayed too. From what I saw of them that season, they really complimented each other
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I think the Pogba-Morata connection is being underplayed too. From what I saw of them that season, they really complimented each other
Interesting point, hadn't thought of the fact Pogba and Morata have played together before. If Jose really is planning to build the team around Pogba it would make sense to bring in a striker whose game Pogba knows. If Pogba already knows what kind of runs Morata makes and what positions he takes up it'll make it easier for him to pick him out.
I don't understand why people are so meh about him, every time I watched him in a big game hes scored
Every one feeds belotti in Torino. Morata will also get the best out of other attacking members.
Morata was also a reserve at juventus
Was key in their CL run though.
Most rational posters aren't so meh about him.
That sounds good, but who did he score against? Relegation fodder who RM were always going to beat by 3-4 goals?
That sounds good, but who did he score against? Relegation fodder who RM were always going to beat by 3-4 goals?
His goals won them the second most points apparently. Only behind Ronaldo
Because transfer muppets had their wangs out over Griezemann, they are still currently crying about it in the Griezemann thread.
That sounds good, but who did he score against? Relegation fodder who RM were always going to beat by 3-4 goals?
Villarreal (5th)
Sociedad (6th)
Athletic (7th)
Espanyol (8th)
Deportivo (9th)
Celta (13th)
Deportivo LC (16th)
Sporting (18th)
Leganes (19th)
Granada (20th)
And before you say "so he doesn't score against the big teams", he rarely played against the big teams (a couple of games I checked he was injured for).
Came on and won the game for them against Villarreal. Great game that was.
Dont compare her min per goals to the likes of Messi's, he generally starts only in the easier matches and gets goals in subs against tired defenders already trailing by 3, and 4 etc. It is a really flawed stat that made the likes of Hernandez look great too.
That part isn't even true
Hernandez's goals won us titles.
Our season could have been much different if we had someone who could score against the weaker teams in the ridiculous number of draws we had last season.
I'd happily pay whatever it takes to be able not to draw 0-0 at home with teams of Burnley and Hull standard.
A Real Madrid fan:
He is an ok finisher but he is awful when tasked with contributing to build up play. He plays best when the team is sat deep defending looking to break on the counter. His first touch is also apparently poor.
Can anyone confirm this? people here have been making out like he's an elite technician.
He is an ok finisher but he is awful when tasked with contributing to build up play. He plays best when the team is sat deep defending looking to break on the counter. His first touch is also apparently poor.
Can anyone confirm this? people here have been making out like he's an elite technician.
I think a lot of the cynics not happy with the signing are just looking at the fact he wasn't starting games regularly at Real. But there's been so many instances of top players being ousted out of top clubs and going on to be better (Robben, Makalele, Cambiasso, Samuel from Real alone) and others not fitting into a system/regular starting XI (Henry, Bergkamp for example being two PL examples). It happens a lot and what we have seen consistently from Morata is that he has many qualities, more importantly qualities we need badly and that he's a player for the big games and moments. He helped save and win Real a lot of points from losing positions this past season. Not every player has to be signing the best player from the teams better than us in fact our best teams have always been built around younger players and those hungry for success and with points to prove. He ticks all those boxes.
Another strikers goals would have won us them too.
Hernandez wouldnt have scored in all those draws magically, neither would Morata. There must have been a severe confidence and training problem this season as Mata, Ibra, Martial, Rashford, Mkhi all scored for fun the season prior and suddenly all went to shit the same time. Morata isnt some God and he isnt a world class striker either, it will remain to be soon whether his physical advantage in Spain will translate well to the PL, needer will he have Kroos, Modric, Isco, Marcelo, Carvajal behind him. I really fear that we wont be title contenders some believe we are with just Morata.
Exactly. Only scores against weaker teams isn't that bad. It could easily be the difference to win us the league.
He also scored and assisted in some huge games for Juventus.
http://www.alfredopedulla.com/as-re...agente-morata-lo-united-deve-alzare-lofferta/
They're claiming that the result of the meeting is Perez standing firm on his 90m asking price
Google translate:
"The agent Alvaro Morata , Juanma Lopez , has been at the Bernabeu to take on Real Madrid 's offer Manchester United 75 million Euros. The meeting lasted over two hours (from 16.30 to 18.45), the club Florentino Perez does not want to grant discounts from the 90 requested, which would serve to finance the assault on Kylian Mbappe of Monaco . Morata would like to close by Friday, ie before her wedding, but the Real - strong interest of Chelsea and PSG - asks the Red Devils to raise the offer."
They're claiming that the result of the meeting is Perez standing firm on his 90m asking price
Google translate:
"The agent Alvaro Morata , Juanma Lopez , has been at the Bernabeu to take on Real Madrid 's offer Manchester United 75 million Euros. The meeting lasted over two hours (from 16.30 to 18.45), the club Florentino Perez does not want to grant discounts from the 90 requested, which would serve to finance the assault on Kylian Mbappe of Monaco . Morata would like to close by Friday, ie before her wedding, but the Real - strong interest of Chelsea and PSG - asks the Red Devils to raise the offer."
Let's
My mate is a Madrid fan and he said he would hate to lose him. He thinks he should start above Benzema but due to how Ronaldo plays, Benzema is is the better fit. He said he's strong, technically sound and a good finisher.
this is the opposite of what others say. Like complete opposite
I don't know about his finishing because I haven't seen him score a lot of goals, but one thing for sure, is that technically he is a very good footballer. I would be wary of anyone saying he has a poor first touch.
Yeah, that's honestly completely false. He's one of the best hold-up players in the world, he has great pace, and is a solid finisher. The only aspect that is somewhat correct is that Morata does happen to be very good on the counter. But frankly, that's fine. In our biggest matches this season (Ajax, Liverpool, Chelsea), Mourinho played a very tight formation with man marking, and only pressed on the sides of the pitch. Against the best teams, that turns into a counterattacking strategy, and that's JoMo's thing.
I doubt this from what he's saying. He seems to know nothing about one of his own players.
Thing is, Madrid know we'll end up paying what they want or very close to it, because what alternative do we have? Belotti - an inferior player for about the same price? Mbappe who is unproven and more expensive?
A midfeilder with a better passing range will certainly solve many problems in attack.
We've created this problem for ourselves unfortunately. Every team in the world will know that we are desperate for a striker and will know that we will be forced to pay over the odds.
Selling Hernandez a few seasons back and not replacing him in the squad was down right negligent.
Arrant nonsense.
11 of Morata's 15 league goals came in games he started.
Of the 4 goals he scored from the bench, 2 were match-winning goals vs Villarreal and Athletic. The other 2 goals from the bench were his goal to make it 3-1 away at Deportivo and his goal to make it 3-0 at home to Sociedad.
Precisely none of his 15 league goals could be characterised as "goals in subs against tired defenders already trailing by 3, and 4".
Ibra injury is not a problem we created. While martial was bought as a striker and Memphis as a winger.
Firstly, it's not their claim, it's taken from AS (as it says in the headline). Secondly, the AS.com article doesn't say Madrid told the agent during the meeting they wanted 90m, it's in the 2nd paragraph summing up the previous reports of United having a deal agreed with Morata while Madrid want all of the 90m. The result of this meeting is yet to be known (unless AS somehow had a bug in the office).
Not the injury, but relying on a 36 year striker is a problem we created.
Admittedly, this wouldn't have been such a problem had Rashford and Martial kicked on last season.
Boom. There's that myth dispelled. Also, the CL goals for Juve, Coppa Italia final etc;
Should force morata to hand in a transfer request.
The feedback I got from one of my Spaniard Real Madrid fans is that he rates him highly (as he does James fwiw), that he'd love to keep him and thinks he's perhaps a more deserving starter than Benzema based on his qualities, but hard to break because of the understanding between Benzema and Ronaldo. I asked simply "Will he do well in England?" and the answer wasn't quite as sure. Don't think he watches as much English football as he used to because I don't think the league is that much harder to adapt to than it once was.
Most Madrid and Juve fans seem to rate him really well. I'm optimistic.
Yes, and given the recent fortunes of both of those clubs I am willing to buy into those views. Plus, my own eye test shows me that he's a very good player that will become a very important one for us.
It's not about the age. Even if ibra was 25 we lost a no 9.
By the way martial was brought as a striker and Memphis as a winger. It's our wing which failed so martial had to fill in there. He's not a pure wide player and was not groomed to be one.
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