Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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RDCR07 said:
Pogba was a one off case because his marketability was off the charts. No other player going for big money this summer comes even close.
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True. I'd be keen at end of window to see who the biggest transfer was, price wise. James, Verratti or Lukaku?
 
salford_ said:
True. I'd be keen at end of window to see who the biggest transfer was, price wise. James, Verratti or Lukaku?
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Should be him based on talent, contract situation and that PSG are loaded.

I'm confident that at the end of the window, the proposed fee payed for Morata will relatively speaking look like a bargain.
 
Utd7 said:
Should be him based on talent.

I'm confident that at the end of the window, the proposed fee payed for Morata will relatively speaking look like a bargain.
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shoukd be Verratti. Forgot Mbappe, think it'll be him if Real get him
 
Utd7 said:
Should be him based on talent.

I'm confident that at the end of the window, the proposed fee payed for Morata will relatively speaking look like a bargain.
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64m pounds or 75m Euros isnt going to be a bargain in two months. If he scores 30-40 goals a year for the next few years, then yes. But you cant call it a bargain just because other strikers might go for more.
 
sglowrider said:
TV revenues will eventually level out. The viewing numbers has fallen a bit since last season.

Sky will pay less or the same in the next contract. The great white hope will be the American and Asian markets. If they continue to rise, then the revenues may have modest rise for the next few years.

This will affect transfer prices as transfer budgets will be a % of their cashflow.
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Yeah agree completely. Eventually prices will reach an absolute high and could actually fall slightly thereafter.

Someone said earlier that we'll see average players going for £300m. Don't see it personally, the potential market just isn't big enough and football isn't going to get much more popular than it is now - so advertising firms aren't going to go any higher when contracts are renegotiated.
 
RDCR07 said:
64m pounds or 75m Euros isnt going to be a bargain in two months. If he scores 30-40 goals a year for the next few years, then yes. But you cant call it a bargain just because other strikers might go for more.
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That's why I said it would "relatively" be a bargain. Especially when you see the prices quoted for others like Lukaku who has his flaws.

With that said I do believe in the kid's talent and believe he will be very successful with us.
 
harms said:
The flaw in this logic is that it wasn't a market's price but a pre-existing condition in his contract. Although obviously he is overpriced
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Ah I see, I thought it was just they had first option.

Essentially he is a promising striker who did well at Juve and now has had a decent season, albeit not as a starter. RM valuing him at £78m (Sky sports) is ludicrous
 
RC89 said:
Using your own stats, GirouD scores a goal every 100min approx, Morata every 89. That's not marginal at all, its quite signficant. You seriously can't say that's marginal and then say Kane handsomely beats that when looking at the stats you used, he manages a goal every 87 minutes. Difference between Morata's goal rate and Kane is a LOT closer than Morata and Giroud.

That graphic includes chances created too, going by goals per min he's superior than most on that list including mbappe. You've listed 2 players (not plenty) 1 you were wrong abouit (Giroud), 1 has a very similar scoring rate although over a greater amount of minutes (Kane) and he's not slightly attainable. Dont think you have much of a point here.
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Kane is 'handsomely' better because he's done it over twice as many minutes. Morata is marginally better than Giroud because he's got 3 extra league goals for 130+ minutes more. So by my statistic Morata ranges between Giroud and Kane, being a lot closer to the impact sub status of Giroud than a main man status of Kane which was the main point of my original post.

But I get a bit of cult follower feeling from you so really nevermind.
 
RedCurry said:
Kane is 'handsomely' better because he's done it over twice as many minutes. Morata is marginally better than Giroud because he's got 3 extra league goals for 130+ minutes more. So by my statistic Morata ranges between Giroud and Kane, being a lot closer to the impact sub status of Giroud than a main man status of Kane which was the main point of my original post.

But I get a bit of cult follower feeling from you so really nevermind.
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I'm not a cult follower at all, barely seen the guy. But your point stuck out to me as it isn't backed up by anything. Your graphic was per minute and you've managed to find ONE player after asserting to know of 'plenty', plus he's close to unattainable anyway so I don't see the point. Surely it should be based on players we have a reasonable chance of getting.
 
64 million pounds for a top quality striker?

Not sure why people think that's strange.
 
For me Morata is a dream signing. No other target could have made me happier this summer, I will be sad if we fail to sign him. :(
 
NinjaZombie said:
I know. But the TV companies paying billions for the rights don't exactly profit from that.



I don't get your point.
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They were talking on Talksport this morning about the PL now want a 7.45 k.o. on a Saturday night because of viewing figures going down. That more people might watch then. Rather than the Friday night experiment.
 
Hans Moleman said:
Is this report legit? Surprised nobody else has picked up on it in the last 5-6 hours

Any of the main aggregator accounts translated this report yet?
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I assumed he's reliable since he writes for the international Business Times UK.

unitedbhoy said:
Do you know if Cadena Ser tend to be reliable?
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They are pretty reliable. I remember them reporting Thiago would go to Bayern when everyone else was saying Manchester United.
 
C'mon Alavaro, get down to to laundry room and pose with the nice ladies. Us muppets need this wrapped up so we can move on to Fabinho.
 
RC89 said:
I'm not a cult follower at all, barely seen the guy. But your point stuck out to me as it isn't backed up by anything. Your graphic was per minute and you've managed to find ONE player after asserting to know of 'plenty', plus he's close to unattainable anyway so I don't see the point. Surely it should be based on players we have a reasonable chance of getting.
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I didn't claim to "know" plenty of players who have at least played 1000+ minutes and have a better goal per minute ratio. I said that there will be plenty of players out there that can boast such a stat. My reasoning was that there are impact subs who rarely play and can have similar stat. Last year I remember at some point Iheanacho was scoring at 81 minutes per goal(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...eanacho-is-europes-most-prolific-goal-scorer/). He was still recording around 96 minutes per goal in Dec 2016.

Minutes per goal only makes sense if the player is actually playing 90 minutes for his team, week in week out. Like how nobody would be crazy enough to spend that type of cash(minus discount for inferior stat) for Giroud. I say this because it's something that would be near impossible to replicate when you're playing 90 minutes and the team has to at times play defensive for large parts of the game. But if you think he would come in and score a goal per game over 40 games for us, then I am all aboard the Morata train.
 
Hojoon said:
I think tax is around 50% generally so double that and you get around 270k a week. Sounds about right for the starting striker at United.
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For Zlatan? Yes? For a striker who hasnt scored over 20 goals in one season? Hell fecking no.
 
Utd7 said:
That's why I said it would "relatively" be a bargain. Especially when you see the prices quoted for others like Lukaku who has his flaws.

With that said I do believe in the kid's talent and believe he will be very successful with us.
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Morata has had 1 season where hes scored more than 10 league goals while Lukaku is proven in the premier league, which given we're in that league, is a factor.
 
Cadena Ser were the ones with the earlier report today (or was it last night?) saying he could be announced within 1 or 2 days. They sound very confident. Is this the lot who Morata's father works for?

Announce Morata :mad:
 
JohnnyKills said:
Yeah agree completely. Eventually prices will reach an absolute high and could actually fall slightly thereafter.

Someone said earlier that we'll see average players going for £300m. Don't see it personally, the potential market just isn't big enough and football isn't going to get much more popular than it is now - so advertising firms aren't going to go any higher when contracts are renegotiated.
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I heard on talksports earlier today that Sky numbers fell by 14% from last year. I was pretty surprised.
 
sglowrider said:
I heard on talksports earlier today that Sky numbers fell by 14% from last year. I was pretty surprised.
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BT Sport will have nicked a lot of them, and illegal streams which I am sure they will find a remedy for.
 
RDCR07 said:
For Zlatan? Yes? For a striker who hasnt scored over 20 goals ever in his career? Hell fecking no.
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Ibra was reportedly on around 370k. Morata is already very good who's made a lot of strides and if he makes the final leap he will be a top 5 striker in the world.
 
Hojoon said:
Ibra was reportedly on around 370k. Morata is already very good who's made a lot of strides and if he makes the final leap he will be a top 5 striker in the world.
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So a lot of ifs and buts. If he IS a top 5 striker TODAY, then by all means pay him. But I dont think he is even in the top 12-15 ATM.
 
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