Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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Milan have been linked with quite a few big names so far, but there doesn't appear to be much cohesion to it.

Also, if Morata were good enough, Real would do everything to keep him and replace benzema with him. Young, Spanish, homegrown...Yet still on the market

It's not as simple as that, Ronnie likes playing with Benzema, he's been an excellent foil for him for years, that is why Morata can't get in, and they've got Isco and Asensio to cover the Spanish jewels quota.
 
Why do people keep claiming that Madrid want to sell him. Madrid do not want to sell him, its Morata that wants to leave.

If Madrid did not use their buyback option, he would have been likely starting at Juve, and at Madrid he has been behind CR and Benzema. Benzema has the advantage of his relationship with Perez and Zidane, and not cos he has been better on the pitch. Benzema's lack of goals has been compensated fror by CR7 which allowed Zidane to get away with it.
 
Is benzema still facing a trial / prison for blackmail as well?
Dunno, it's been really quiet about that. Cris is the one who could be facing some shit with his tax fraud case where he supposedly evaded €16m. It's been on spanish news quite a bit these last few days.
 
Icardi, Morata, Belotti

One of those 3 for our no.9 would be lovely
 
We need a striker, he's available, we should be in for him. Were far to slow in dealing with transfers
 
We want someone who first and foremost finishes all his chances. That's all we really needed to do much better this season just gone, given our very impressive chance creation stats. And that's not Morata.

Although apparently we're suddenly in a world where we sign Perisic, so who really cares?
 
We want someone who first and foremost finishes all his chances. That's all we really needed to do much better this season just gone, given our very impressive chance creation stats. And that's not Morata.

Although apparently we're suddenly in a world where we sign Perisic, so who really cares?
A) Morata's goal scoring rate has been excellent this season. B) Griezmann is also supposed to be the answer for that.
 
Rashford and Martial are not ready to lead the line as a No. 9. We still need a striker that can be depended to bang in the goals since Zlatan is not going to be here at the start of the season or doubt he'll even play for United again. We need a striker and Morata isn't bad at all. Everyone knows that he's a better striker than Benzema at the moment but due to Perez and Zidane, he's been more of a backup than a starter.

With that being said, even if we get Griezmann, we still need an out and out striker and I don't think Lukaku is worth the money and Belotti is a huge risk for the amount of money that Torino are quoting. That leaves us with a shortage of world class options. Then again, Morata's first choice is Milan, so we not even get him. We may face a crisis if we don't figure out our ST situation right now.

I am not a fan of Morata either but Rashford is clearly not the answer yet. He just doesn't score enough goals.

Oh, don't mistake me. I said even last season (when people were criticizing the Zlatan signing) that Rashford and Martial are not the answers and that we needed a striker. I still feel we need another striker - and a proven scorer - as these two could really go either way and a club with our ambitions and of our stature can't take such massive risks. That said, I just don't think Morata is the answer. Morata isn't on the bench because of some nexus between Zidane, Perez and Benzema. Look at James to see how that doesn't make sense! Morata is not quite (this is just my opinion) the striker we really need. His stats are skewed massively and people then move to goals / min because of his being mostly an impact sub. Fact is, if we don't trust Rashford and Martial, why are we so keen on bringing in someone who isn't - and has never been - the main man anywhere else?

I do understand the question of, "Well, who else then?" but I'm no scout and I don't watch every game of every team. I'm just stating an opinion on one striker who's been proposed. I could well be very wrong and we could sign him and he may bang in 30 next season in the PL alone. I'll back him to the hilt if Jose thinks he's the answer and signs him for us.
 
I haven't see enough of him to form a firm view but based on what I have seen I'm surprised of the level of interest. I'm sure Real are rubbing their hands together at the thought of 60m for a second string striker. It's no coincidence that Real are willing to sell, if he was up to it, they'd keep him.
 
Why do people keep claiming that Madrid want to sell him. Madrid do not want to sell him, its Morata that wants to leave.

If Madrid did not use their buyback option, he would have been likely starting at Juve, and at Madrid he has been behind CR and Benzema. Benzema has the advantage of his relationship with Perez and Zidane, and not cos he has been better on the pitch. Benzema's lack of goals has been compensated fror by CR7 which allowed Zidane to get away with it.

The perils of farming out your development - ridiculous sums of money but Jese sold for far beyond his worth too
 
Icardi, Morata, Belotti

One of those 3 for our no.9 would be lovely

Icardi is better in every way I have a feeling they'd all cost similar amounts. Really hoping we get linked with him soon, but I'd be happy with Belotti.
 
The perils of farming out your development - ridiculous sums of money but Jese sold for far beyond his worth too
Jese had always been overrated and was shocked when PSG bought him. He ended up taking a long route to where I thought he should have always been - a mid-table la liga team..
 
Icardi is better in every way I have a feeling they'd all cost similar amounts. Really hoping we get linked with him soon, but I'd be happy with Belotti.
Icardi is clinical in the box but all other aspects of his game need a lot of improvement.
 
We want someone who first and foremost finishes all his chances. That's all we really needed to do much better this season just gone, given our very impressive chance creation stats. And that's not Morata.
But part of that chance creation was Ibrahimovic, who provided vital link up play from up top. So to keep or improve their level, Utd needs that from their no.9 too. And that's where it gets tricky to find someone who ticks all the boxes on the highest level.

Morata is close enough from his skillset, but it remains to be seen if he can get it all together as the #1 option for a top team.
 
But part of that chance creation was Ibrahimovic, who provided vital link up play from up top. So to keep or improve their level, Utd needs that from their no.9 too. And that's where it gets tricky to find someone who ticks all the boxes on the highest level.

Morata is close enough from his skillset, but it remains to be seen if he can get it all together as the #1 option for a top team.

Believe me he won't get it together! I'm glad he is going AC as that is his level. Juve and Madrid are too good for him to be leading their line.
 
Juve and Madrid are too good for him to be leading their line.
I'd probably agree with that, but the teams in question are Chelsea and United, whose offenses are well behind (especially Utd's), and who are still in a rebuilding process.
 
A) Morata's goal scoring rate has been excellent this season. B) Griezmann is also supposed to be the answer for that.

A) Better, but it's still not the quality you'd buy him for. B) Yes, exactly. Get him, that's your star quality going forward, added to Rashford and Martial who are both capable of being outstanding players if they actually get to play up front, which they will if we don't keep Ibra. Makes Morata too obsolete a signing to be worth what we'd have to pay for him.
 
I'd probably agree with that, but the teams in question are Chelsea and United, whose offenses are well behind (especially Utd's), and who are still in a rebuilding process.

Yes, but it seems like we can probably get Griezmann, who suits our needs better and is a much better player. So what would be the point getting Morata? With Griezmann providing the proven world class quality, Rashford has more than demonstrated the quality to become at least as good a player as Morata. And we have Martial in the equation too. Plus we don't know if Ibra's staying or going yet, but you'd think with CL football available he'd be up for giving it another season.
 
Yes, but it seems like we can probably get Griezmann, who suits our needs better and is a much better player. So what would be the point getting Morata? With Griezmann providing the proven world class quality, Rashford has more than demonstrated the quality to become at least as good a player as Morata. And we have Martial in the equation too. Plus we don't know if Ibra's staying or going yet, but you'd think with CL football available he'd be up for giving it another season.
Yes, if you trust in Rashford & Martial making the next step in a 2 striker setup, Morata isn't needed. At least if physical presence in the box and heading ability aren't main criteria. But I think it's a tricky decision, no available CF option (homegrown or bought) strikes me as a surefire success.
 
Who would in your opinion?
To be honest, I'm not overly excited about any of the other options (Lukaku, Belotti, Icardi).

Probably Belotti from the little I've seen.

Not too many great line leading CFs out there.
 
Good for Barca. Potentially world class no9. Close to that level even now. Very good in build up as well as he has nice techique.
 
To be honest, I'm not overly excited about any of the other options (Lukaku, Belotti, Icardi).

Probably Belotti from the little I've seen.

Not too many great line leading CFs out there.
Belotti could be an absolute beast one day. He's very good.
 
Belotti could be an absolute beast one day. He's very good.

Yeah, while my caveat was I've seen mostly Youtube compilations, I do like what I see attributes-wise and surely with a lot more to come from a 23-year-old.

All compilations present you with a player at their best so pinch of salt and all that, particularly regarding consistency and mentality, but you can tell what the players is/isn't about style-wise.
 
Yeah, while my caveat was I've seen mostly Youtube compilations, I do like what I see attributes-wise and surely with a lot more to come from a 23-year-old.

All compilations present you with a player at their best so pinch of salt and all that, particularly regarding consistency and mentality, but you can tell what the players is/isn't about style-wise.
Yeah I think I've watched him play twice in my life so my opinion of him goes off what others have said, but trustworthy people seem to rate him so that's good enough for me. With Morata likely going to Milan, we certainly need someone...
 
Not exactly a great goal scoring record despite playing for two clubs who dominate their respected leagues.
 
Think there's a chance we get him, Di Marzio said he's out first priority signing. Not sure the situation on Milan trying to get him.

He's good in the air and much better technically than Belotti or Lukaku. He's scored at a very good rate this season when actually given the opportunity to play. I think he'd be a really good signing.
 
Think there's a chance we get him, Di Marzio said he's out first priority signing. Not sure the situation on Milan trying to get him.

His future wife is an Italian model and she wants to go back to Italy. Milan got bought by some chinese and are loaded now.
 
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