Ballbag couldn't be any more of an ABU if he tried. He genuinely dislikes us and will do anything to slander us. At some point in the next season or so he'll probably come out with some utter shite about us harming De Gea's development or some other crap. Anything he can do to make us look bad in the press, he'll do.
£40m for Ozil | Deal to Arsenal confirmed
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ok. Just didn't like hearing it.
Hate it when people say this.. No, your the only person on the Caf who has seen Ozil
Rooney was dire last season and it was his worst season at the club, but if he gets anywhere close to his best he is more than as good as Ozil. When you factor in that we have Kagawa in the squad the fact is that we don't urgently need a player like Ozil.
He would improve us, obviously, but he isn't worth £45million to United.
Steve, why are you talking about forgiving Wenger? We're not Arsenal fans. The issue here is that even Arsenal are now willing to pay up for a world class player while we're doing nothing. And they're getting a player who would have improved us.
Nobody judged our manager either, at least not many. Woodward gets most of the ire and not without reason: the transfer window has been a total farce from our perspective.
Nor me mate, but its always best to remember its ballbag.
Hate it when people say this.. No, your the only person on the Caf who has seen Ozil
Rooney was dire last season and it was his worst season at the club, but if he gets anywhere close to his best he is more than as good as Ozil. When you factor in that we have Kagawa in the squad the fact is that we don't urgently need a player like Ozil.
He would improve us, obviously, but he isn't worth £45million to United.
Again, there's no benefit of us having Kagawa in the squad because he's clearly not going to start games here.
Impossible, as he's already marginalised. Wasn't even on the bench with Rooney injured, Nani lacking match fitness and Young being a mediocre run-of-the-mill winger who's not good enough for United.
We should have sold Young, retired Giggs and then we'd have a place for a world class creator in the 'three' behind Van Persie.
I'm as big a fan of Kagawa on here as any and agree he should have been on the bench at least yesterday. We don't know the full story though and he had a disruptive pre-season because of the Confederations.
He'll get his chance though, why wouldn't he?
Is Madrid suddenly offering up all their players to Arsenal their own revenge against Levy stalling things all summer? Would be incredible if they manage to get Di Maria as well.
If I were Spurs I would have been happier getting Ozil and Di Maria in than the collection they have assembled, although clearly they will take some time to bed in.
If I were Spurs I would have been happier getting Ozil and Di Maria in than the collection they have assembled, although clearly they will take some time to bed in.
Because we've got Giggs and Young!
Hate it when people say this.. No, your the only person on the Caf who has seen Ozil
Rooney was dire last season and it was his worst season at the club, but if he gets anywhere close to his best he is more than as good as Ozil. When you factor in that we have Kagawa in the squad the fact is that we don't urgently need a player like Ozil.
He would improve us, obviously, but he isn't worth £45million to United.
I have serious doubts if Rooney will ever get back to his best form again. Also again, he is at his best when he can play as a striker, not as an attacking midfielder. He is decent in that role, but Ozil is probably the best nr 10 in the world atm...
And as for kagawa, he might aswell not be here, because we aren't playing him, i don't know what is up with that, but it is a fact !
But yea no, we don't need a quality player like Ozil
Were you perhaps saying the same about RVP last season aswell ?
Hate it when people say this.. No, your the only person on the Caf who has seen Ozil
Rooney was dire last season and it was his worst season at the club, but if he gets anywhere close to his best he is more than as good as Ozil. When you factor in that we have Kagawa in the squad the fact is that we don't urgently need a player like Ozil.
He would improve us, obviously, but he isn't worth £45million to United.
I think this is essential and the answer is clearly no.
Too many in here are looking at Ozil with large goggle eyes.
Have been saying this for so long. For some reason Giggs keeps on getting his annual contract extension and we are unable to shift out the deadwood. We lack ruthlessness both in buying players and getting rid of them.
Mate, the bigger picture is that Arsenal have become notorious for not spending, to the point where their fans couldn't decide whether it was Wenger or the board which was responsible; yet now Caf posters are melting down because of one, long overdue, purchase.
As for Woodward: he's new in the job, but few seem willing to give him time to learn (even if it takes a few windows).
I think this is essential and the answer is clearly no.
Too many in here are looking at Ozil with large goggle eyes.
He is 24 and he is worldclass, i think £45m is a steal for a player like him.
Ozil will 100% be a hit at Arsenal they're made for a player like him. Don't think we should be too down on not signing him, he was potentially another Kagawa/Berbatov... and we do have Janzuaj coming through who is eerily similar to Ozil in terms of playing style and arguably has the potential to be more direct if he does progress like we want him to. That said the squad needs an overhaul in certain positions and we need to make some quality signings and get rid of deadwood... give Moyes time and lets hope he isn't blindly loyal to players like Young.
feck you.
It is a steal, but he is not a cure for the problems we have in midfield.
Hazard on the other hand was an awful miss on the transfer market.. when I see guys like him and Oscar, they scream United for me... direct, flair and physically impressive, both are explosive players and on the counter- lethal as feck. Hate seeing them in Chelsea shirts.
You shouldn't be learning the job at a club like Manchester United. United should be run by experts in their job, not by green boys !
No, the main reason for the meltdown is that we seem incapable of completing any deal. And on top of the disappointments and frustrations of the summer we're not even in for an available, world-class player who surely would be willing to come to us (if he's willing to sign for Arsenal).
And sorry but the 'Woody needs time to learn his job' line is bullshit. Let's give time to the manager, all right; but the CEO's position is not one where you're afforded patience. He's either up to his job or not and if not then he should get the blame for it.
Is Young fitter? Or Nani?
Do you think it would have been stupid to get rid of Young? Seriously? Do you think Giggs is an irreplaceable member of the playing squad?
Well, it's all opinions, chief; I'm not claiming to be right or the sole 'voice of reason'.
RVP wasn't a cure for any of our problems last year either, we had Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck. Yet his quality made us win the title. Ozil could do a similar thing for us. He is better than Rooney and better than Kagawa.
Play with 3 AM's infornt of RVP, or get rid of Kagawa or Rooney in the next window.
But clutching on to inferior players is never an excuse to miss out on worldclass quality.
Seconded - rather him than Lamela and Erikson
Agreed, would have loved to see Ozil in a United shirt even if we do still need a CM on top.
I think this is essential and the answer is clearly no.
Too many in here are looking at Ozil with large goggle eyes.
Yup in a nutshell!
I mean no one is saying he wouldn't improve us, but he isn't a necessity and the extent of the improvement wouldn't be worth £45million
He may be better than Rooney and Kagawa.... which is your view....... but is he £45m better? Geez, we didn't offer anywhere near that for Fabregas, who is much more suited to us.
How on earth have Arsenal pulled this off? fair play to them.
They offered a sensible amount of money for a quality player - who knew it could be that easy.
Yea we should have offered that for fabregas btw, maybay we would have a chance at getting him for that price.
As i said when you get Ozil, you can sell Rooney or Kagawa and recover some of the money. RVP cost us £30m, for a 30 year old that is alot of money. Ozil makes even more sense than that.
If you aren't willing to spend, you should never hope to get worldclass quality.
OK, you've made your point, over and over. Shut up whining for a few minutes at least.
Going after a player who is willing to leave his club. And then going on to pay his club what they think he is worth. Someone should tell Teddy Woody that.
If he's not fit, why didn't Moyes simply say that when asked an awkward question about his exclusion yesterday?
Moyes was unenthusiastic about Thiago, uninterested in Ozil, only willing to bid £30m for a w/c Fabregas - the case for non-stupidity is unproven.
By offering the market value for a world class player who wants to leave his current club. We could learn a thing or two.
RVP cost us £24m.
Immense signing by Arsenal (if they indeed pull it off).
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