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    Redlyn said:
    Well put. I'd be happy enough with any of them really. Was leaning towards Fellaini but given how little he's played now I think Herrera. A midfield 3 would help to free up Pogba while keeping it tight. We can bring on Messe later to kick them while they are down.
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    Jesse has been just as effective off the bench hasn't he. I think it will definitely be between him and Herrera but leaning towards the latter. Pogba and Sanchez will be a little more free if Herrera is hanging back with Matic .
     
    RedRom said:
    Presumably "the mop" is Fellaini?

    No chance of him starting, especially in such a high profile match, we need to ease him back into matches, and this is not the time to do so.
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    He was rested completely the other night and Spurs have some big units in their midfield, Jose will be wary of that.
     
    De Gea
    Valencia - Smalling - Jones - Young
    Matic
    Lingard/Herrera - Pogba
    Sanchez --------- Martial
    Lukaku
    ​
    If Lingard starts, I think Fellaini will come on for him. If Herrera starts I think Lingard will come on for him.
    Bailly might get to start over Smalling, but I don't believe he's far enough on his return to fitness to start, going by that he didn't get any minutes against Yeovil.
    Shaw could start, but since Mourinho said he prefered Young's experience in the clash against Burnley who are a high-energy side, similar to Spurs, I'll say he's more likely.

    Sanchez, Martial & Lukaku are sure to start. Rashford another sure to come on, unless we get injuries in defense and midfield keeping us from putting him on.
     
    Devil may care said:
    He was rested completely the other night and Spurs have some big units in their midfield, Jose will be wary of that.
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    He didn't play against Yeovil not because he was being rested for the Spurs match, come on think sensibly here!

    He hasn't played for a good few weeks, irrespective of tall or whatever Spurs players are, this is not the match where you throw people in to get match fitness.
     
    RedRom said:
    He didn't play against Yeovil not because he was being rested for the Spurs match, come on think sensibly here!

    He hasn't played for a good few weeks, irrespective of tall or whatever Spurs players are, this is not the match where you throw people in to get match fitness.
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    If he had no plans to use him and he still needed match fitness then he'd have given him the Yeovil game, rather than not even having him in the squad.
     
    Devil may care said:
    If he had no plans to use him and he still needed match fitness then he'd have given him the Yeovil game, rather than not even having him in the squad.
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    We will see I suppose, but to me I can't see him starting a player who has not played for a good long while, it makes no sense.
     
    RedRom said:
    We will see I suppose, but to me I can't see him starting a player who has not played for a good long while, it makes no sense.
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    I don't want him to start, don't get me wrong, I can't stand seeing him in a United shirt, but Jose will play 4-3-3 IMO and he loves the tree and I think he'll want him against Dier/Dembele/Dele.
     
    RedRom said:
    Would any other team have fans questioning if their manager will play their most in firm player when they are fit, healthy and ready to go?

    Especially in a big match??

    It literally makes no sense whatsoever to not start with Lingard, he is the prototype José player, he works hard, scores, and assists, not sure what more he could do to convince some people here of his talents.

    There should be zero questions regarding his status in the team, yet it seems that some people are happy to casually drop him from the side, why deliberately try and weaken us from the off?? Strange times indeed.
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    The only problem with your "logic" is that we have other attackers who are also in form (Martial) or are better than Lingard (Sanchez). Lingard isn't Messi despite the trending memes. That's why it's a selection headache. If he actually was Messi we wouldn't have this discussion, he's not though.
     
    Some posters seem very optimistic about this game, but Jose will revert to type in my opinion. The Arsenal game is basically the blueprint for this game. Jose is always cautious and looks to exploit space on the counter.

    Val - Lind - Smalling - Jones- Young
    Matic - Pogba
    Martial
    Sanchez - Lukaku​
     
    Pace Abuser said:
    Some posters seem very optimistic about this game, but Jose will revert to type in my opinion. The Arsenal game is basically the blueprint for this game. Jose is always cautious and looks to exploit space on the counter.

    Val - Lind - Smalling - Jones- Young
    Matic - Pogba
    Martial
    Sanchez - Lukaku​
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    Swap Sanchez and Martial and I could see this. Still think 3 in midfield is more likely, with Sanchez - Lukaku - Martial up top.
     
    Pace Abuser said:
    The only problem with your "logic" is that we have other attackers who are also in form (Martial) or are better than Lingard (Sanchez). Lingard isn't Messi despite the trending memes. That's why it's a selection headache. If he actually was Messi we wouldn't have this discussion, he's not though.
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    I have said that we should play all of them (Sanchez, Lingard, Martial, Pogba, and Lukaku), so I recognise only too well how talented a set of players we have currently.
    I am not at all saying that Lingard is anything like Messi, or even remotely in or near his level, because he isn't, what he is however, is our most on form attacking player, and so dropping him when he is in this kind of form just seems madness, and sends out the wrong message.

    We should be looking to start with our best team, and the team that will give us the best opportunity of coming away with the full three points, and currently that does include Lingard.
     
    Pace Abuser said:
    Some posters seem very optimistic about this game, but Jose will revert to type in my opinion. The Arsenal game is basically the blueprint for this game. Jose is always cautious and looks to exploit space on the counter.

    Val - Lind - Smalling - Jones- Young
    Matic - Pogba
    Martial
    Sanchez - Lukaku​
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    How is a game where we didn't have all of our current attacking players available to us a good blueprint of the upcoming Spurs game?

    Would you care to explain as to how they are similar to each other in that sense please?
     
    De Gea
    Valencia - Jones - Rojo - Young
    Herrera---Matic
    Pogba
    Sanchez ------ Martial
    Lukaku

    ​
     
    De Gea
    Tony Mike Jones Young
    Matic Pogba
    Lingard Sanchez Martial
    Lukaku

    3-1 United
     
    RedRom said:
    How is a game where we didn't have all of our current attacking players available to us a good blueprint of the upcoming Spurs game?

    Would you care to explain as to how they are similar to each other in that sense please?
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    Would you care to explain why you think how availability of Sanchez would change anything tactically?

    Sanchez is just an upgrade on our attacking unit. As @Pace Abuser said, the blue print must be whatever we have followed against bigger teams - 3-5-2.

    Shoehorning all our attacking players won't really help, there needs to be a balance in the team and I am sure Jose has reiterated that many a times.

    Ffs, we never changed our approach when we bought lukaku for attack and Matic for midfield in the big games. What makes you think that with sanchez we would do something totally different?
     
    -------------De Gea----------

    Valencia-Smalling-Jones-Shaw

    --------------Matic------------


    --------Herrera--Pogba--------


    -Martial----Lukaku----Sanchez
     
    ayushreddevil9 said:
    Would you care to explain why you think how availability of Sanchez would change anything tactically?

    Sanchez is just an upgrade on our attacking unit.
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    Exactly. I don't think we'll suddenly change our approach to these big games with Sanchez onboard. He just slightly tweaks the existing tactic and (hopefully) makes it work a bit better. I mean in all the big games we've played this season where we didn't get a result we did have enough chances to come away with wins, just didn't take them. What Sanchez will hopefully do is help us create just a few more chances each game and maybe take one or two as well, which would see us come home with 3 points.
     
    Longlivekeano said:
    -------------De Gea----------

    Valencia-Smalling-Jones-Shaw

    --------------Matic------------


    --------Herrera--Pogba--------


    -Martial----Lukaku----Sanchez
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    I think Mou is going to lay 3 at the back to neutralize spurs. So a front two of Martial and Lukaku with Sanchez behind is a possibility. Dunno what happens to Lingod though.
     
    ayushreddevil9 said:
    Would you care to explain why you think how availability of Sanchez would change anything tactically?

    Sanchez is just an upgrade on our attacking unit. As @Pace Abuser said, the blue print must be whatever we have followed against bigger teams - 3-5-2.

    Shoehorning all our attacking players won't really help, there needs to be a balance in the team and I am sure Jose has reiterated that many a times.

    Ffs, we never changed our approach when we bought lukaku for attack and Matic for midfield in the big games. What makes you think that with sanchez we would do something totally different?
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    Simple really, the availability of Sanchez allows us to have that one extra attacking player who is very good with the ball at his feet, and can see teammates runs and pass the ball when needed.

    It also means that we now have quite the forward line, him, Martial, Lingard, Lukaku, and Pogba are a set of players that would scare any defence, and we should use them to do just that to our advantage.

    They are all playing well, and none of them deserve or warrant dropping to the bench, it should not be that hard a point to understand.
    You play your best side in big games, and this is certainly one of them, so I don't see how dropping Lingard as one or two people have done so, helps us, as he has been our most in form player in recent times, we should play those players who are in form, not drop them!

    How does dropping them help with their confidence? Surely you would want to keep them and their confidence going for as long as possible?
     
    Longlivekeano said:
    -------------De Gea----------

    Valencia-Smalling-Jones-Shaw

    --------------Matic------------


    --------Herrera--Pogba--------


    -Martial----Lukaku----Sanchez
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    Replace Herrera with Lingard, and then that should be the team that starts.
     
    Pleased to be coming into this one with so many core players rested. This is going to be a lung-buster, wouldn't be surprised if the team who is freshest in the final quarter of the game nicks it.
     
    RedRom said:
    Simple really, the availability of Sanchez allows us to have that one extra attacking player who is very good with the ball at his feet, and can see teammates runs and pass the ball when needed.

    It also means that we now have quite the forward line, him, Martial, Lingard, Lukaku, and Pogba are a set of players that would scare any defence, and we should use them to do just that to our advantage.

    They are all playing well, and none of them deserve or warrant dropping to the bench, it should not be that hard a point to understand.
    You play your best side in big games, and this is certainly one of them, so I don't see how dropping Lingard as one or two people have done so, helps us, as he has been our most in form player in recent times, we should play those players who are in form, not drop them!

    How does dropping them help with their confidence? Surely you would want to keep them and their confidence going for as long as possible?
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    Just to keep their confidence, we should start with all of them. Whats wrong with starting rashford too then? Won't it harm his confidence then if we decide to drop him and start all others?

    This is not a game of sentiments where we have to cater the feelings of a player.

    You are suggesting that we should start with Lukaku Lingard, Sanchez and Martial, leaving only 2 players for the midfield with one of them being Pogba who has been devoid of defensive duties. Where do you see the balance in the side? Is it really that difficult to understand?

    We can't even control a normal game with 2 man midfield let alone a big game.

    You need to be realistic rather than being overly optimistic that with starting all attackers we would steamroll the spurs. This side hammered a certain Liverpool side who did the same at Wembley. I am sure Jose won't be buying into this 'play your best team' stuff and would focus more on tactical aspects of the game.
     
    Spirit of Solskjaer said:
    Exactly. I don't think we'll suddenly change our approach to these big games with Sanchez onboard. He just slightly tweaks the existing tactic and (hopefully) makes it work a bit better. I mean in all the big games we've played this season where we didn't get a result we did have enough chances to come away with wins, just didn't take them. What Sanchez will hopefully do is help us create just a few more chances each game and maybe take one or two as well, which would see us come home with 3 points.
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    Yep. I expect a game where we put away a few chances which we would create because Sanchez helps us with better counters, better decision making and better finisher.
     
    Ijazz17 said:
    I think Mou is going to lay 3 at the back to neutralize spurs. So a front two of Martial and Lukaku with Sanchez behind is a possibility. Dunno what happens to Lingod though.
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    Unless he suspects Tottenham to also feature 3 at the back, he won't do it. It's a reactive system to adapt to other teams formation using 3 at the back too. Except for Real Madrid and Swansea away, no other time did he used it without mirroring the other team.
     
    de Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Young
    Matic
    Lingard Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial
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    Romero; Rojo, Shaw; Herrera, Fellaini, Mata; Rashford​

    Hoping for something similar to this. Would be a little disappointed if Martial is left out in favour of Alexis playing from the left. I think Alexis could be just as good on the right, while I don't think Martial would. Although, I don't think slotting Herrera in over one of the more attacking players would be too bad of a move. This is the time now where we need to beat one of our more closely rivaled teams and at least secure top three. We have very favourable fixtures up until the end of February, so hopefully we can keep this strong run going.

    It is still a big ask to win here, if we do then it's a huge result.
     
    ayushreddevil9 said:
    Just to keep their confidence, we should start with all of them. Whats wrong with starting rashford too then? Won't it harm his confidence then if we decide to drop him and start all others?

    This is not a game of sentiments where we have to cater the feelings of a player.

    You are suggesting that we should start with Lukaku Lingard, Sanchez and Martial, leaving only 2 players for the midfield with one of them being Pogba who has been devoid of defensive duties. Where do you see the balance in the side? Is it really that difficult to understand?

    We can't even control a normal game with 2 man midfield let alone a big game.

    You need to be realistic rather than being overly optimistic that with starting all attackers we would steamroll the spurs. This side hammered a certain Liverpool side who did the same at Wembley. I am sure Jose won't be buying into this 'play your best team' stuff and would focus more on tactical aspects of the game.
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    I have never said that sentiments should be brought into this so not quite sure where you have got that from, what I have said however is that you should play players whilst they are bang in form and full of confidence, in regards to Rashford, since you brought him up, yes he scored past Yeovil, but his form overall is not as good as those that he is competing with for a starting place.

    We have the players to really hurt opposition sides, and not just that, they are are full of confidence as well, so we should let them do so!

    Surely we should play to our strengths, and that is with our formidable attacking line-up, the likes of which no other team in the league can boast of having?!

    It just makes sense to see how they can interchange with each other, and become very fluid.

    Not wishing to see Sanchez start, or Martial, or Lingard is pretty strange really, they all deserve to start, and I hope that they do.

    Also one point, what exactly is wrong with wishing or hoping to see us put out best team out for this? Should I instead be hoping to see us put out a rubbish side?
    So seemingly unlike yourself, I do hope that José buys into it, and does play our best team in this match, as Spurs despite their league position are still a darn good side, so we will have to take them deadly seriously, and I have a feeling that José will do so.
     
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    Pace Abuser said:
    Some posters seem very optimistic about this game, but Jose will revert to type in my opinion. The Arsenal game is basically the blueprint for this game. Jose is always cautious and looks to exploit space on the counter.
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    There is nothing wrong with counter attacking football. I, for one, love it.
    The problem I would have in this game, is parking the bus. When you have such a good, in-form attack (on paper), we should be aiming to score many goals.
     
    ayushreddevil9 said:
    You need to be realistic rather than being overly optimistic that with starting all attackers we would steamroll the spurs. This side hammered a certain Liverpool side who did the same at Wembley. I am sure Jose won't be buying into this 'play your best team' stuff and would focus more on tactical aspects of the game.
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    That's a good point.
    LFC attempted the gung-ho approach and got beat by Spurs.
    Perhaps we need to be more cautious.
     
    sunama said:
    That's a good point.
    LFC attempted the gung-ho approach and got beat by Spurs.
    Perhaps we need to be more cautious.
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    With respect we are a much more complete side than Liverpool, so I don't see what they have got to do with ourselves?
     
    VP89 said:
    Liverpool can't defend for shit.
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    Exactly, we have a far better defensive set-up, and not to mention goalkeeper, so what Liverpool did against Spurs will have zero impact in how we do against them.

    Not quite sure why people thought to bring that match up here.
     
    Longlivekeano said:
    -------------De Gea----------

    Valencia-Smalling-Jones-Shaw

    --------------Matic------------


    --------Herrera--Pogba--------


    -Martial----Lukaku----Sanchez
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    Agree with that except martial on the left and sanchez in the right/centre. If things arent going too well weve got lingard on for herrera to change things up
     
    Android1974 said:
    Unless he suspects Tottenham to also feature 3 at the back, he won't do it. It's a reactive system to adapt to other teams formation using 3 at the back too. Except for Real Madrid and Swansea away, no other time did he used it without mirroring the other team.
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    Yeah, I am aware of that. I haven't watched Spurs much recently except from highlights, so I was under the assumption they were still using the back 3 system.
     
    DDG
    Valencia-Jones-Smalling-Shaw
    Matic-Pogba
    Lingard-Sanchez-Martial
    Lukaku

    should be our team with the 3 behind Lukaku constantly interchanging.
     
    Havak said:
    de Gea
    Valencia Smalling Jones Young
    Matic
    Lingard Pogba
    Sanchez Lukaku Martial
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    Romero; Rojo, Shaw; Herrera, Fellaini, Mata; Rashford​

    Hoping for something similar to this. Would be a little disappointed if Martial is left out in favour of Alexis playing from the left. I think Alexis could be just as good on the right, while I don't think Martial would. Although, I don't think slotting Herrera in over one of the more attacking players would be too bad of a move. This is the time now where we need to beat one of our more closely rivaled teams and at least secure top three. We have very favourable fixtures up until the end of February, so hopefully we can keep this strong run going.

    It is still a big ask to win here, if we do then it's a huge result.
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    That's it for me, although I disagree about Herrera and would be tempted to start him instead of Jesse. Either way, that's a decent bench as well that.
     
    I think l sanchez is more than capable of playing on the right but i think you can get the best of him roaming freely between the left side and the mid of the attack. His more deadly attributes are his sudden stops with hip-breaking turns and his vision. I think both of those qualities are limited as a winger from the right. To me the attack should be

    On paper:

    --------------SANCHEZ--------------
    ----Lukaku-------------martial-----

    But in game they can turn into:

    ----lukaku-------------sanchez----
    -----------------martial----------------

    Im typing this on the phone so i hope you guys see it correctly
     
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