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Tottenham Hotspur 2:0 Manchester United

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    I fear an anti-climax here, with Sanchez making his PL debut and playing with the likes of Pogba, Lukaku and Martial for the first time. A bit like when Berba made his debut and played alongside Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo, which we all thought would be great, and we ended up playing a poor game and losing 2-1 to Liverpool.
     
    I fear an anti-climax here, with Sanchez making his PL debut and playing with the likes of Pogba, Lukaku and Martial for the first time. A bit like when Berba made his debut and played alongside Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo, which we all thought would be great, and we ended up playing a poor game and losing 2-1 to Liverpool.

    Pretty short-sighted way to look at it, forget one result, that team won us the League and made it to the CL Final.
     
    I see no relevance because those games did not feature Sanchez, and presumably this one will, so why look at games without him, and think that they are in way relevant to how we will or might play with him? It makes no sense whatsoever.

    We will play differently with him in the side, then without him in the side, so if he is playing against Spurs, then I would honestly like to know why a game, or games in which he was unavailable to us helps us to think of how we might play?

    Please just explain that bit to me, as it is something that just puzzles me.



    Quite right I do, why drop or not start possibly our most in form player??

    It makes no sense at all to not start him.

    1 player doesn't make a team
     
    Sanchez/Lukaku/Martial/Lingard is hardly like stopping Neymar/Suarez/Messi is it

    I agree it isn't purely because with the former you are trying to stop four players, whilst in the latter you are only trying to stop three players.

    From reading some of your other posts it is becoming clear to me that you are unable or unwilling to take in anyone else's viewpoints.

    You seem to regard football and discussion as some sort of math problems where there is only one correct solution and you already have it.

    I am very much interested to hear and listen to other people's viewpoints, having as wide a range as possible is great, and allows for some great discussions to be had.
    However, that does also come with the addendum of being allowed to voice ones own opinions on said viewpoints.

    I almost agree, but still think we will do better with him as a sub this match.

    Who would you take out?
    2 man midfield or Martial/Sanchez on the bench?

    Why leave any of them out? Just how would Spurs stop our most potent front line? We should not be worrying about them, and instead we should be thinking how they will be able to cope with us!


    I'm not suggesting he won't start. I was simply joking with RedRom as he has quizzed anyone who had the audacity not to select him in their predicted line-up.

    Not so much the audacity, more just trying to figure things out as to why people still seemingly underrate him enough to leave him out.
     
    I agree it isn't purely because with the former you are trying to stop four players, whilst in the latter you are only trying to stop three players.

    I know you're trying to be clever but the problem you have is the fact that the 3 would be harder to stop than the 4 unless of course you're really stating Martial/Lingard and Lukaku are comparable with one of Messi/Suarez or Neymar
     
    It is a case for the third and fourth spot in the league of who is less rubbish (rather than who is better) between Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool.
    One team will miss out, not to sure who it will be, this time, unlike with ourselves none of them have the Europa League to fall back on, so it should be interesting to see who does miss out.

    I definitely don't agree with that. None of those teams are rubbish.
     
    Of course not, you need ten others alongside him. ;)

    So why when quizzed about discounting all previous big games did you state they don't count as now have Sanchez?
     
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    I absolutely love that :lol:
     
    We seem to be winning every other game versus Spurs, its their turn now:nervous:
     
    Most of the team picks itself. Big question is which midfield player (Jesse, Mata, Fellaini, Herrera) brings the most balance if we are in fact starting Martial, Lukaku and Sanchez up front?

    I think Jesse would complement nicely, interchanging roles fluidly from central to the right with Sanchez.
     
    I think it will be:

    Lingard Sanchez Martial
    Lukaku

    Dropping either Martial or Lingard for this could really dent their confidence. Martial in particular has shown a good level of resilience to fight for his place.
    If Lingard plays from a deeper role then that likely means Sanchez on the right, which is fine if he's happy to play there, but I suspect not... The cup game was a free selection for Mourinho, but he needs to be sure about his decisions for this one.

    I really can't remember when our team last had this level of genuine competition. Mata, Herrera and either Shaw or Young, can feel they deserve a spot too.

    Exciting times are ahead, but this will be a tricky game.
     
    Most of the team picks itself. Big question is which midfield player (Jesse, Mata, Fellaini, Herrera) brings the most balance if we are in fact starting Martial, Lukaku and Sanchez up front?

    I think Jesse would complement nicely, interchanging roles fluidly from central to the right with Sanchez.

    Not quite sure why Fellaini is getting a mention in regards to this particular game, he has been absent from the team for a good time now, and this really is not the best game to just throw him into.

    If we wish to ease him back into the side, then do so against Huddersfield, leave this game to the players whom have done so well in recent times.
     
    Not quite sure why Fellaini is getting a mention in regards to this particular game, he has been absent from the team for a good time now, and this really is not the best game to just throw him into.

    If we wish to ease him back into the side, then do so against Huddersfield, leave this game to the players whom have done so well in recent times.
    Indeed. I don't think he'll be starting but he'll have a role in the match. That's just a list of the midfielders I expect to be available for the match considering Pogba and Matic will start.
     
    Indeed. I don't think he'll be starting but he'll have a role in the match. That's just a list of the midfielders I expect to be available for the match considering Pogba and Matic will start.

    I can't see him getting any minutes in this game, it isn't the time nor the place to be easing players back into the team that have been absent for a while.
     
    I can't see him getting any minutes in this game, it isn't the time nor the place to be easing players back into the team that have been absent for a while.
    I don't follow. If he is on the bench, which he will likely be, then it is because he will be ready to play. So if he is in the squad, I'd probably expect to see him get minutes over Herrera in this match particularly after watching the way Spurs played in the FA Cup this weekend .
     
    If they're going with normal 4 in the back then I expect a similar lineup to the Everton game. The only debate will be who will start from Sanchez or Lingard. Martial was out from the cup game squad so he's nailed to play so I don't know if Mourinho will prefer to put Sanchez automatically in the lineup because of his important character or he will prefer Lingard because he's used to the team more.

    My prediction personally in this case will be Sanchez to start, with Lingard as a fresh sub.
     
    Feck, I thought the game was tomorrow because of the press conference today.
     
    If they're going with normal 4 in the back then I expect a similar lineup to the Everton game. The only debate will be who will start from Sanchez or Lingard. Martial was out from the cup game squad so he's nailed to play so I don't know if Mourinho will prefer to put Sanchez automatically in the lineup because of his important character or he will prefer Lingard because he's used to the team more.

    My prediction personally in this case will be Sanchez to start, with Lingard as a fresh sub.

    Why do you think that's the "only debate who will start"? Are you confident that either Mata or Herrera will start?
     
    Why do you think that's the "only debate who will start"? Are you confident that either Mata or Herrera will start?

    The only debate if we're going to play 4-3-3, because Herrera will start in this case imo like Everton game.

    If we're going with another formation things may change, but I'm talking regarding 4-3-3 formation.
     
    If our tactic is going to be to sit back, soak pressure with a defensive midfield three (including Herrera), although exploiting quick counterattacks and transitions, I can see Martial being the one dropped ahead of any of Lingard (rightwing>center), Sánchez (left) or Lukaku (center), while Mata or Rashford wouldn't start anyhow.
     
    The only debate if we're going to play 4-3-3, because Herrera will start in this case imo like Everton game.

    If we're going with another formation things may change, but I'm talking regarding 4-3-3 formation.

    But Lingard has been playing as a no 8 in midfield 3 recently. So it's not like we can be so sure if Jose is likely going to play Herrera. From Herrera, Jesse, Alexis and Mata, Herrera was the one who played full in FA cup.
     
    But Lingard has been playing as a no 8 in midfield 3 recently. So it's not like we can be so sure if Jose is likely going to play Herrera. From Herrera, Jesse, Alexis and Mata, Herrera was the one who played full in FA cup.

    It's possible but I think if we're going with 4-3-3 Mourinho will tend to be more conservative in this game by playing an actual defensive midfielder rather than a running one as Lingard.
     
    If our tactic is going to be to sit back, soak pressure with a defensive midfield three (including Herrera), although exploiting quick counterattacks and transitions, I can see Martial being the one dropped ahead of any of Lingard (rightwing>center), Sánchez (left) or Lukaku (center), while Mata or Rashford wouldn't start anyhow.

    I'll be surprised if Martial is dropped when he didn't even in the squad on Friday with Pogba, de Gea & Matic. The guy is on fire as well.
     
    It's possible but I think if we're going with 4-3-3 Mourinho will tend to be more conservative in this game by playing an actual defensive midfielder rather than a running one as Lingard.

    So it should be in the debate too then. Either Lingard or Herrera will play, but the running one is also more effective to be used in counter attack than the one who is more defensive and he was very effective against Arsenal.
     
    So it should be in the debate too then. Either Lingard or Herrera will play, but the running one is also more effective to be used in counter attack than the one who is more defensive and he was very effective against Arsenal.

    Against Arsenal we were playing 3-4-1-2 to contain their 3-4-3 system.

    We'll see but my prediction for this will be :

    David
    Valencia - Jones - Smalling - Young
    Matic
    Herrera - Pogba
    Sanchez - Lukaku - Martial​
     
    Against Arsenal we were playing 3-4-1-2 to contain their 3-4-3 system.

    We'll see but my prediction for this will be :

    David
    Valencia - Jones - Smalling - Young
    Matic
    Herrera - Pogba
    Sanchez - Lukaku - Martial​

    More of 352 to me not 3412, Lingard did drop a lot like a central midfield in that game. But the point is him being labelled as running one can also be effective in big game to close down opposition players, won the ball and involved in quick counter attack.
     
    More of 352 to me not 3412, Lingard did drop a lot like a central midfield in that game. But the point is him being labelled as running one can also be effective in big game to close down opposition players.

    The debate is still if Lingard is going to start or not, not far away from what I have mentioned earlier, either starting instead of Herrera or Sanchez or won't. Let's see.
     
    Lingard is on fire at the moment, but I know let's not start him and see him carry on doing that, it isn't as if he has a good record at Wembley or anything like that is it?
     
    The debate is still if Lingard is going to start or not, not far away from what I have mentioned earlier, either starting instead of Herrera or Sanchez or won't. Let's see.

    That's not the only debate really. Both Lingard & Mata can also start and both Herrera and Sanchez can also be on the bench.

    Formation is also involved here. We might play 3 at the back as well and that's another debate.
     
    That's not the only debate really. Both Lingard & Mata can also start and both Herrera and Sanchez can also be on the bench.

    Formation is also involved here. We might play 3 at the back as well and that's another debate.

    Mata will never start this.

    If they're going 3 at the back we'll match it but most are saying they have changed to normal 4 at the back recently.
     
    Mata will never start this.

    If they're going 3 at the back we'll match it but most are saying they have changed to normal 4 at the back recently.

    Why can't Mata will start when he's been starting our games recently? Personally I don't fancy Mata but I'm not the manager so there is a debate that Jose might want to start him and keep the same XI as our previous league game and bench Sanchez since he might need a bit more time until he is gel with the system and new team mate.

    I don't see why playing 3 at the back can only be used if our opposition is playing 3 at the back. May be Jose wants to be more solid in defense by adding more defender. Well, technically it's 5 at the back and we are playing away so I won't be surprised if we go 5 at the back.
     
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