Cleverley and Fletcher in midfield... oh dear.
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Sunderland 1:1 Manchester United
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I like this line up. Probably the best way to go.Predicted Lineup (may change mind after u21 game tonight):
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1. De Gea
4. Jones 12. Smalling 6. Evans
25. Valencia 24. Fletcher 26. Kagawa 18. Young
8. Mata
20. Van Persie 10. Rooney
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Bench: 40. Amos, 42. Blackett, 2. Rafael, 23. Cleverley, 22. Powell, 11. Januzaj, 49. WilsonDDG
Rafael - Smalling - Evans - James
Jones - Cleverley
Kagawa
Januzaj - Rooney - Welbeck
Jones must play CDM for us.
Exactly. We'd look pretty ropey at the back but we need to start having some balls & be confident in our attackers. If we go to Sunderland with Evans, Smalling, Jones, Fletcher, Cleverley, Valencia & Young as the defence & midfield I think we'll get beat.
No Rojo? I'd start with him. Want a back three comfortable on the ball. Evans and Rojo would give us that. Also, Smalling is injured.It'll have to be a real effort. Hopefully RVP, Mata, Rooney or Januzaj etc can turn it on. Need that quality to shine through because we are a mess behind them.
Blackett for James. Someone just posted the exact same line up though
Rojo is unavailable, no work permit. And where does it say Smalling is injured?Cattermole will control the midfield against our shamblic options.
2-1 Sunderland.We're playing Sunderland and I'm questioning if we'll win with the players we've got left..
Cleverley and Fletcher in CM is only just above Sunderlands level.*sigh*. We are cursed! Rooney cm???...
-------------------DDG---------------
---------Jones----Evans-------Blackett
----Cleverley---Rooney---Fletcher-----Young
--------------------Mata------------------------
-------------Januzaj-----Van Persie
...what a shite team
You are a donut Good but not our bestDe Gea
Jones - Smalling - Evans
Rafael - Fletcher - Kagawa - Young
Mata
Rooney - van Persie
Bloody hell. When will rojo be available?
Re: smalling, people seem to be talkingr about it with certainty in the injury thread.
He doesn't have a work permit. Not eligible to play. Wouldn't have started him anyway, doesn't seem to speak any English and that's important for a defender. Probably would have been on the bench.Going to be played off the park once again. I am going for the same result as Swansea and the caf to go into meltdown for two days.
No idea, probably soon, not sure how long those things take. And it's just because somebody on here mentioned it, Smalling isn't injured, or at least nobody ever reported it, Van Gaal never said it and he took part in training.*sigh*. We are cursed! Rooney cm???...
-------------------DDG---------------
---------Jones----Evans-------Blackett
----Cleverley---Rooney---Fletcher-----Young
--------------------Mata------------------------
-------------Januzaj-----Van Persie
...what a shite team
Cleverley as a wing back??
Is Tom Lawrence injured?
Two days? It'll be thermonuclear by the time the transfer window shuts and we still haven't signed anyone else.Sunderland will be well up for this at home and the injury news will be further blood in the water, I think a point would probably be a decent result under the circumstances.
De Gea
Jones
Smalling
Blackett
Young
Cleverley
Fletcher
James
Mata
Rooney
Januzaj----------------DDG----------------
-----Smalling----Evans----Blackett--
Januzaj---Fletcher---Jones-----Young
----------------Mata----------------
-----------RVP------Rooney-------
Bench: Hernandez, Welbeck,Kagawa, Cleverley, Rafael, James, LindegaardI'm worried about this.. I, a Manchester United fan am worried about playing fecking Sunderland. The injuries are a joke.. what's a big joke is the fact we've let our squad get extremely weak with a lack of investment over the last few years.With too many injuries and a bad result last week, I would like to see our team put a solid performance. It's a great test to show how much our players are buying into Van gaal's philopshpy - will the feel sorry for themselves or play with confident and no fare.-----------------------------DE GEA------------------------------------
-------------JONES----------SMALLING----------BLACKETT--------------
VALENCIA-----------------------------------------------------YOUNG-----
---------------------------FLETCHER--------------------------------------
--------------------ROONEY-------------KAGAWA-----------------------------
-----------------------------MATA---------------------------------------------
--------------------------------VAN PERSIE-----------------------------------------------
Januzaj was woeful as a wing back in the Swansea Game, and he and mata together were responsible for their first goal. He started playing well in the 2nd half, after LVG changed the formation. Also I think starting Mata is a big risk for this game. We can't afford defensive passengers especially against a Sunderland side that overloads the midfield. Kagawa is better at high pressing and putting the opposition under pressure. I agree with Jones but wouldn't a more mobile midfielder like Cleverley be better to partner him? The lack of movement with those two(Fletcher, Jones) would be awful to watchLast edited:Predicted XI:
de Gea1-1.
Jones - Evans - Blackett
Valencia - Fletcher - Kagawa - Young
Mata
Januzaj - Rooney
Subs: Lindegaard, M. Keane, Rafael, Cleverley, Powell, van Persie, Hernandez
I'd go with that, but Rafael over Valencia.What about playing a 5-3-2 formation?? I.e
De GeaI think having phil in there, effectively as DM and then having the LB/RB get up the pitch but asking less of them than we do when they are wingbacks.
Rafael Smalling Evans Shaw
Jones
Herrera Mata Rooney
RVP Januzaj
No Herrera?
InjuredHope fletcher never starts, hes been very poor since he came back
I am of an opinion Cleverley shouldn't start a game for us unless there was no other alternative. I hate watching him in the team.All signs point to us being outplayed and struggling to pass the ball without losing all threat and slowing things down to a snail's pace.
And I'm having visions of Smalling and Jones trudging and sliding all over the place, with Sunderland looking like scoring every time they enter the final third, and De Gea's almost trademark look of disbelief that United are being cut apart by an average team he barely knew existed before he moved to England.
So... with that said... it wouldn't surprise me if we now defy all odds and win.
Maybe I'm just deluding myself though.Last edited:Need to play fast football through the middle to get the best from mata and ronney, this running down the wings is bullshit, most teams can handle that.
Me too, he's awful. I don't think Fletcher is much of an improvement though. The only reason I'd pick Cleverley ahead of him for this game is if Jones were to partner him. Just wouldn't be mobile enough. Cleverley, as bad as he is, does get around the pitch well. What about a Kagawa-Jones midfield? Maybe that would be better than both options. LVG does seem keen to try him there. Stick Rooney in the hole, essentially acting as a third midielder due to to the reasons I mentioned about Mata and them overloading the midfield Then, Januzaj-Rvp up front?
It would be nice if we could do the whole signing a 'player in 24 hours' thing and get in a midfielder before Sunday though, wouldn't it?Me too, he's awful. I don't think Fletcher is much of an improvement though. The only reason I'd pick Cleverley ahead of him for this game is if Jones were to partner him. Just wouldn't be mobile enough. Cleverley, as bad as he is, does get around the pitch well. What about a Kagawa-Jones midfield? Maybe that would be better than both options. LVG does seem keen to try him there. Stick Rooney in the hole, essentially acting as a third midielder due to to the reasons I mentioned about Mata and them overloading the midfield Then, Januzaj-Rvp up front?
It would be nice if we could do the whole signing a 'player in 24 hours' thing and get in a midfielder before Sunday though, wouldn't it?
---------------DDG------------------
-----Smalling--------Blackett------
Rafael--------Jones--------Young
--------Rooney----Kagawa-------
Januzaj--------RVP---------Mata
?Me too, he's awful. I don't think Fletcher is much of an improvement though. The only reason I'd pick Cleverley ahead of him for this game is if Jones were to partner him. Just wouldn't be mobile enough. Cleverley, as bad as he is, does get around the pitch well. What about a Kagawa-Jones midfield? Maybe that would be better than both options. LVG does seem keen to try him there. Stick Rooney in the hole, essentially acting as a third midielder due to to the reasons I mentioned about Mata and them overloading the midfield Then, Januzaj-Rvp up front?
It would be nice if we could do the whole signing a 'player in 24 hours' thing and get in a midfielder before Sunday though, wouldn't it?
I would like to see that, especially if the alternative is Cleverley and Fletcher...Can we not just ask Giggs if he would consider playing this match for us. He would do better than the other options.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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23%
Tyler Blackett
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16%
Juan Mata
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4%
Danny Welbeck
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2%
Antonio Valencia
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2%
David de Gea
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1%
Tom Cleverley
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1%
Chris Smalling
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Score Predictions
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- Man Utd win
- Sunderland win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 27% Sunderland 1:2 Man Utd
- 13% Sunderland 1:3 Man Utd
- 12% Sunderland 0:2 Man Utd
- 8% Sunderland 1:1 Man Utd
- 7% Sunderland 0:3 Man Utd
- 7% Sunderland 2:1 Man Utd
- 5% Sunderland 0:1 Man Utd
- 4% Sunderland 2:2 Man Utd
- 3% Sunderland 1:0 Man Utd
- 3% Sunderland 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 0:5 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 0:0 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 5:0 Man Utd
- 2% Sunderland 0:4 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 1:5 Man Utd
- 1% Sunderland 3:0 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 2:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 5:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 3:5 Man Utd
- 0% Sunderland 4:0 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Sunderland
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 45% 55%
- Shots
- 11 10
- Shots on Target
- 3 3
- Corners
- 4 4
- Fouls
- 10 15
Referee
Martin Atkinson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Adnan Januzaj
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replaced by Danny Welbeck
