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Southampton 0:3 Manchester United

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    Cant see Ugarte starting, i fully expect to see Casemiro start alongside Mainoo. Do think he'll take the plunge and drop Rashford though, think it'll be Amad right and Garnacho left...

    Back 4 as vs Liverpool.

    Ugarte for Mainoo on 60, Rashford for Amad, Hojlung for Zirkzee.
     
    M Bison said:
    Do think he'll take the plunge and drop Rashford though
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    I don't think that is gonna happen. Rashy didn't have an international game. Garnacho travelled to play for Argentina.

    Besides ETH dropped Rashy way way late last season. Think he will repeat that.
     
    RedDevil@84 said:
    I don't think that is gonna happen. Rashy didn't have an international game. Garnacho travelled to play for Argentina.

    Besides ETH dropped Rashy way way late last season. Think he will repeat that.
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    Amad has been away with Ivory Coast as well hasn't he, so Rashford the only one that's been around.
     
    Ugarte has to start. ETH is out of time and can't possibly keep Casemiro in the starting XI. Rashford should be benched, but ETH doesn't have the courage to do it. If he hasn't already, he's going to lose a lot of support both inside and outside of the club if he losses this match.
     
    Can we take another week off ? I’ve enjoyed the last week unbeaten
     
    PieCrust said:
    Ugarte has to start. ETH is out of time and can't possibly keep Casemiro in the starting XI. Rashford should be benched, but ETH doesn't have the courage to do it. If he hasn't already, he's going to lose a lot of support both inside and outside of the club if he losses this match.
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    Ya he has minutes under his belt from Uruguay, and casemiro is off the back of a disaster. I don't see why we shouldn't start him then sub off if he's struggling later in game with fitness. He had a busy summer with copa too it's not like he's been months out
     
    Should be 3 points this anything else will be a massive let down
     
    Berbasbullet said:
    Score line was deceptive if I remember rightly? Wasn’t that Mainoos debut too?
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    I mean, we did lead from the 3rd minute, extend to 2-0 early in the second half and beat them on xG, so it wasn’t some fluke result. The problem is we only had 2-3 fairly comfortable wins like that all season.
     
    dwd said:
    If we lose this the manager surely goes, right?
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    He shouldn’t still be here but having stuck with him over the summer the ownership cant turn round and sack him after four games, so we are probably stuck with him until December at least
     
    M Bison said:
    Cant see Ugarte starting, i fully expect to see Casemiro start alongside Mainoo. Do think he'll take the plunge and drop Rashford though, think it'll be Amad right and Garnacho left...

    Back 4 as vs Liverpool.

    Ugarte for Mainoo on 60, Rashford for Amad, Hojlung for Zirkzee.
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    Surely him not playing internationals means he’s guaranteed starter whilst the likes of Garnacho/ Amad would likely get some time off having travellled.

    Rashford/ Antony should be in training all week basically going over the threats and what is needed of them.
     
    westmeath said:
    He shouldn’t still be here but having stuck with him over the summer the ownership cant turn round and sack him after four games, so we are probably stuck with him until December at least
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    But if we don’t win this game things will only heat up and get tougher. This is the most winnable game out of the next 3. So lose this one and I think we lose all 3. We need something to click and start gelling together. A run of games with a consistent team should help.
     
    westmeath said:
    He shouldn’t still be here but having stuck with him over the summer the ownership cant turn round and sack him after four games, so we are probably stuck with him until December at least
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    Yeah, they found the tightest corner and wedged themselves tight in it.

    'Just watch once Ugarte gets up to speed' is the new 'just you wait till Martinez gets back, you'll all be begging for mercy'.

    That'll buy ETH enough time.
     
    Andersons Dietician said:
    Surely him not playing internationals means he’s guaranteed starter whilst the likes of Garnacho/ Amad would likely get some time off having travellled.

    Rashford/ Antony should be in training all week basically going over the threats and what is needed of them.
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    Garnacho will have crossed time zones but Amad won't have (Chad is the same time as the UK). No jet lag.
     
    I hate to predict this but United will struggle, be this united is lack lustre, they pass the ball sideways a lot, run offside a lot and maybe nick a 1-1 draw don’t see us wining,

    TenHag Ball is just super depressing he’s had 16 losses in last 40 PL matches that’s a 40% loss rate, I just think we should get rid of him and put RVN in and have a coach who wants and thinks he’s a number 1 start fresh, if Ineos are serious any loss in next 3 EPL game should result in his instant sacking, we’ve saved enough money in wages to pay him off for 2 seasons.

    ETH is FoS and it’s time to do just put him out of his misery!
     
    M Bison said:
    Cant see Ugarte starting, i fully expect to see Casemiro start alongside Mainoo. Do think he'll take the plunge and drop Rashford though, think it'll be Amad right and Garnacho left...

    Back 4 as vs Liverpool.

    Ugarte for Mainoo on 60, Rashford for Amad, Hojlung for Zirkzee.
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    Don't think Hojlund is close to starting at all. Recent comments suggest the club won't rush him back etc.

    I agree Ugarte sub appearance as Ten Hag seems to like that. Agree that it'll be for Mainoo and not Casemiro. I doubt he'll drop Rashford, so I think Rashford / Amad on the wings.
     
    Fitness depending

    Onana

    Mazraoui
    De Ligt
    Martinez
    Dalot

    Ugarte
    Mainoo
    Bruno

    Diallo
    Zirkzee
    Rashford (id prefer garnacho)

    Couple of players will be coming back from good internationals with confidence high, and a new presence should give a lift, I see no reason to not start Ugarte and take him off at 60 if his fitness isnt up to scratch.

    I think we might click a bit in this game and win 0-3, with absolutely no promise that anything good will survive a week.
     
    Southampton are now a possession based team which, I would wager, pass the better than us. Not sure what rabbit ETH is going to pull out of the hat to win comprehensively but I suspect we may sneak a narrow win or draw. It's not good enough but that's what we are now reduced to...scraps!
     
    No way can we rush in Hojland or Shaw, really wonder what they’ll do with Ugarte. The fact he went on international duty is insane at first thought but the fact he got minutes is good.

    Zirkzee Amad


    Fernandes


    Mainoo Casemiro Eriksen



    Dalot Martinez De Light Mazraoui


    Onana
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    Shaw, Ugarte, Hojland to get some minutes on the end there. Colyer is our other midfield option it seems so him on for whichever of Casemiro or Eriksen tires first.Garnacho on up top. ‘Really hope Amad lets loose.
     
    TheRedHearted said:
    No way can we rush in Hojland or Shaw, really wonder what they’ll do with Ugarte. The fact he went on international duty is insane at first thought but the fact he got minutes is good.

    Zirkzee Amad


    Fernandes


    Mainoo Casemiro Eriksen



    Dalot Martinez De Light Mazraoui


    Onana
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    Shaw, Ugarte, Hojland to get some minutes on the end there. Colyer is our other midfield option it seems so him on for whichever of Casemiro or Eriksen tires first.Garnacho on up top. ‘Really hope Amad lets loose.
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    I don't really see how Casemiro can start after his last game. He's got work to do, to be diplomatic. And with Ugarte getting about 170 competitive minutes in his legs I would think he'd be deemed ready to play for us. If he isn't, I'd much rather have Collyer out there for this one.

    Agreed on Shaw and Hojlund. Honestly, I doubt we see either this month.
     
    It'll be:

    Onana
    Mazraoui, De Ligt , Martinez, Dalot
    Casemiro, Mainoo
    Garnacho, Bruno, Rashford (lol)
    Zirkzee

    1:1
     
    Sadly I see the same lineup vs Liverpool starting, Cas will most likely start, hoping Ugarte comes in after an hour.

    I also think he'll bench Amad and play Garna RW.
     
    M Bison said:
    Cant see Ugarte starting, i fully expect to see Casemiro start alongside Mainoo. Do think he'll take the plunge and drop Rashford though, think it'll be Amad right and Garnacho left...

    Back 4 as vs Liverpool.

    Ugarte for Mainoo on 60, Rashford for Amad, Hojlung for Zirkzee.
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    I think the opposite will happen. Rashford will start, because Erik loudly defended him after Liverpool game, and Rashford did create the rare two chances in that game. So he 90% starts again.

    As for Casemiro, him being subbed at half-time and Ugarte playing great during international break makes it very hard for Erik to keep claiming that Ugarte is not ready, and he is the new signing we payed shitton of money for. It will be insane to not start Ugarte, all things considered. It's not like Erik has not made unsane squad selections in the past, even often, but I would say odds are still on Ugarte starting
     
    NewGlory said:
    I think the opposite will happen. Rashford will start, because Erik loudly defended him after Liverpool game, and Rashford did create the rare two chances in that game. So he 90% starts again.

    As for Casemiro, him being subbed at half-time and Ugarte playing great during international break makes it very hard for Erik to keep claiming that Ugarte is not ready, and he is the new signing we payed shitton of money for. It will be insane to not start Ugarte, all things considered. It's not like Erik has not made unsane squad selections in the past, even often, but I would say odds are still on Ugarte starting
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    Yeah agree with Rashford. Whilst I would prefer Garnacho to start over him, realistically Rashford created the best two chances of the game and Garnacho hasn't exactly put in "Rashford must be dropped" performances so far (apart from maybe City). I think Amad has to start though.

    In EtH fashion I reckon Ugarte will be on the bench, however, if he is truly done with Casemiro then there is a chance he'll start. Either way I expect the same team as v Pool but with Amad starting.
     
    NewGlory said:
    I think the opposite will happen. Rashford will start, because Erik loudly defended him after Liverpool game, and Rashford did create the rare two chances in that game. So he 90% starts again.

    As for Casemiro, him being subbed at half-time and Ugarte playing great during international break makes it very hard for Erik to keep claiming that Ugarte is not ready, and he is the new signing we payed shitton of money for. It will be insane to not start Ugarte, all things considered. It's not like Erik has not made unsane squad selections in the past, even often, but I would say odds are still on Ugarte starting
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    Rashford has also been our best winger (by some distance) in all three league games this season. It would be truly bizarre management to decide that this was the point to drop him.

    Agree Ugarte is likely to start.
     
    flameinthesun said:
    Yeah agree with Rashford. Whilst I would prefer Garnacho to start over him, realistically Rashford created the best two chances of the game and Garnacho hasn't exactly put in "Rashford must be dropped" performances so far (apart from maybe City). I think Amad has to start though.

    In EtH fashion I reckon Ugarte will be on the bench, however, if he is truly done with Casemiro then there is a chance he'll start. Either way I expect the same team as v Pool but with Amad starting.
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    Yes, EtH definitely would delay Ugarte starting to infuriating extreme if he were not under pressure. Having lost two out of three first games, one of them to Liverpool 3-0 will hopefully force him to get over his hesitation and start his only new hope in Ugarte
     
    Deligt taken off at halftime against Germany, by some accounts he had a mare
     
    Nice to watch Ireland to take my mind of our poor start to the season. Let's get it started, I'm losing faith in football
     
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  • Man Utd win
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  • 22% Southampton 0:2 Man Utd
  • 19% Southampton 1:2 Man Utd
  • 12% Southampton 1:3 Man Utd
  • 9% Southampton 1:1 Man Utd
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Overall Possession
44.2% 55.8%
Shots
6 20
Shots on target
4 10
Shots off target
1 3
Blocked shots
1 7
Total touches in the box
18 38
Goalkeeper saves
7 3
Fouls
11 14
Corners
0 7

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