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Southampton 1:2 Manchester United

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    Sammyjunn said:
    You seem to miss the point a bit, it's just about I dont want us to have a small lead, under pressure with shaking knees, I'd rather have that we are leading quite comfortably and not have the need to get it more tight defensively/holding. Fletcher lately has always come on, when we were shaking. Literally in all matches bar Hull when he came on, we were shaky and had a minimal lead.
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    Well I hope fletcher comes on as sub and makes you shake! Sorry can't help. :)
     
    dwd said:
    :lol: who are you?
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    Who am I? Well, I am someone who has faith in the team and don't like negative people speaking negative and depressing things. I also find it will help you more if you take my advice and be positive again in the morning. :)
     
    redevil2 said:
    Who am I? Well, I am someone who has faith in the team and don't like negative people speaking negative and depressing things. I also find it will help you more if you take my advice and be positive again in the morning. :)
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    So you think we will win every single game United will ever play then? I'm not saying anything negative or depressing. Just got a feeling we will lose, that's my opinion. That has no bearing on the performance of the team, not sure if you know that though.
     
    dwd said:
    So you think we will win every single game United will ever play then? I'm not saying anything negative or depressing. Just got a feeling we will lose, that's my opinion. That has no bearing on the performance of the team, not sure if you know that though.
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    Be cheerful man, its not the end of the world.
     
    dwd said:
    So you think we will win every single game United will ever play then? I'm not saying anything negative or depressing. Just got a feeling we will lose, that's my opinion. That has no bearing on the performance of the team, not sure if you know that though.
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    well so having a feeling we are due for a loss whereas Southampton is due for a win is not a negative thinking?

    So it's your opinion that we will lose tonight not because there's something wrong with our team but it's your your feeling and opinion. And that is not depressing? I beg to differ.
     
    redevil2 said:
    well so having a feeling we are due for a loss whereas Southampton is due for a win is not a negative thinking?

    So it's your opinion that we will lose tonight not because there's something wrong with our team but it's your your feeling and opinion. And that is not depressing? I beg to differ.
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    :lol:
     
    redevil2 said:
    What??!! So rude and uncivilised.
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    Rude is telling posters that you hope they do not watch the game, do not come online to read the forum after the game, rude is telling them to turn in early just because you don't like their opinion.

    You cannot influence the result, you can do all the positive thinking you want but you cannot influence that result, Louis van Gaal can, his staff can, his players can, you cannot.

    For this reason there is nothing wrong with the fan above taking the viewpoint he has, there is nothing wrong with him stating his prediction for the most likely result tonight, that's his opinion and he is entitled to it whether you or I agree with it or not.

    redevil2 said:
    Hope you don't watch the game and don't come on line here. It's better you turn in early and wake up to a surprised win in the morning. You will feel better this way it think
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    Is Rafael fit? If so I could see him right back and Valencia right midfield to provide width so the left midfielder can drift in, Herrera and Fellaini could make us too narrow.

    In the last game Fellaini was instructed to stretch play by moving towards the right touch line.

    Plus Rafalencia is a good combination usually, one does the crossing and the other passes him the ball so he can do the crossing, works well.
     
    Empire said:
    Rude is telling posters that you hope they do not watch the game, do not come online to read the forum after the game, rude is telling them to turn in early just because you don't like their opinion.

    You cannot influence the result, you can do all the positive thinking you want but you cannot influence that result, Louis van Gaal can, his staff can, his players can, you cannot.

    For this reason there is nothing wrong with the fan above taking the viewpoint he has, there is nothing wrong with him stating his prediction for the most likely result tonight, that's his opinion and he is entitled to it whether you or I agree with it or not.
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    Your calling other name is so un call for. The way I asked him/her to not watch etc was just tongue in cheek. Even my approach wasn't in a nice way, you have no right to come on here to pour insult. Geez, What world are we living in people can hide behind a computer and foul mouth others. Dwd doesn't need you to help him as he/she's quite capable of speaking his or her mind.
     
    My prediction for the line ups games:

    XI: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Rojo, Young; Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, Mata; Rooney, van Persie
    Subs: Fletcher, Januzaj, Falcao
     
    Would take any win today. Think we may go for the 4-3-3 again as we're away to one of the better sides, as in the Chelsea, City and Arsenal games. (I know we were at home to Chelsea). Think di María is a big loss for a game like this, but I reckon we'll go for:
    de Gea
    Rafael, Smalling, Rojo, Young
    Carrick, Fellaini, Herrera
    Rooney, Wilson
    RvP.


    Think Falcao will have to make do with another cameo after LvG's comments today, but maybe it's some kidology from the big man?

    Wilson did enough last Tuesday to warrant another start imo. If he can find his finishing touch then he'll be a great addition to the squad from the Youth Ranks,
     
    For those who cannot see the tweet.

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    "Tonight, it's a big game for us ... come on guys #mufc
     
    Shyftyy said:
    hmm Shouldn't Herrera and Mata switch in this graphic?

    Edit: Only just now looked at the responses and seems most feel the same way :P
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    No, that's how we played last time. I guess it's because a) Herrera is doing pretty well at the tip of the diamond and b) LvG prefers left footed players on left side
     
    Shyftyy said:
    hmm Shouldn't Herrera and Mata switch in this graphic?

    Edit: Only just now looked at the responses and seems most feel the same way :P
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    Think Herrera has been more advanced than Mata in the last two games. Not sure.
     
    If Fellaini is out we should play Valencia RCM and Rafael RB. We'll fit out in a minute either way
     
    4 wins from 4 in the Premier League is certainly good for the teams confidence and the team are in a good place going into big week when we play two direct rivals for the Champions League places. Southampton certainly weren’t expected to be a challenge to the top four, but under Koeman they have proven they have the quality to be in the mix although I am expecting them to drop off the pace at little over Christmas as their run of games gets harder and come faster. They will certainly test the teams new found confidence of and form which why Van Gaal is keen to asses where we are at after the game. "I want to wait until after the match [to assess things], but we’re in a very good moment. We've won four matches in a row, which is a very good achievement in the Premier League. I want to see what happens against Southampton – if we win a second consecutive awaygame, we'll have great momentum" he said. The pressure on United is not huge in terms of points needed, I think we only need 27 from the nest 42 to be on course for the top four which gives us a 15 points cushion, but the next two games will certainly help the momentum grow further and prove to the players and outsiders that the changes we are seeing are for real and not just because we played against teams that are struggling themselves.Southampton have a bad record against Champions League challengers - they've only lost to Liverpool, Tottenham, Manchester City and Arsenal this season - while United have won only one game on the road. This is a big test for both. United are in a good place for this game, with not too much pressure/expectation on us, hopefully this week will prove we are a dangerous opponent again.

    Southampton have injuries, particularly in central midfield, where they are missing Morgan Schneiderlin, Jack Cork, James Ward-Prowse and Toby Alderweireld who has been used in central midfield when needed. Southampton’s squad is not that big so these injuries will surely force Koeman to change to a system featuring two central midfielders Steven Davis and Victor Wanyama rather than play 4-3-3 which their default system. This would mean Sadio Mane, Dusan Tadic and Shane Long will support striker Pelle. It’s a system Koeman has used before, but in truth, the system didn't work when Koeman tried it at Aston Villa a fortnight ago, there might be little other option here. What will be interesting to see is how it affects their pressing, Southampton don’t press so energetically in the opposition half like last season, but remain proactive without possession, but with one less midfield player they may look to play more of an counter-attack game and drop deeper using the pace of the trio behind Pelle to break into space in-behind. United’s system has continued to change throughout the season, but with all of his striker available Van Gaal seems to have reverted to a 4-4-2 diamond. This system should allow United to command the centre of the pitch against a Southampton team probably using only two central midfielders, but the drawback is that Southampton dangerous attacking full-backs will have space to attack because they have no direct opponent to guard against. If Southampton play their usual proactive game then Van Gaal will want a pacey forward to exploit Southampton's high line, which means another start for young James Wilson isn't out of the question. Further forward Tadic precise role could be important, United's makeshift full-backs will be in for a difficult test, if Tadic is playing from the flank, he is a tricky dribbler that has caused teams many problems, it might work out better if Tadic is fielded centrally, where he can be marshalled by Carrick and the centre-backs. Pelle acts as a good target man who drops off and links play and I think the combination of Rojo and Smalling will be comfortable with him so the supporting players will be the danger men.

    What to look for

    · Southampton’s system, will injuries force Koeman to revert to a two central midfielders system?

    · Southampton’s pressing. Will they continue to be proactive or play more of a counter-attacking game?

    · United’s system should see them dominate the centre of the pitch so will the Southampton full-backs be left too much space?

    · Who will partner Van Persie?

    · What role will Tadic play?

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    Subs – Lindegaard, Evans, Rafael, Fletcher, Januzaj, Wilson, Falcao.

    The combination of Rojo and Smalling has worked well in recent games so there is no need to change that despite Jonny Evans being fit again, after constant chopping and changing we need some cohesion and consistency in this area. The full-back positions may get looked at, with options available, Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young the unlikely full-back duo put in a good showing against Hull and Stoke. With Jonny Evans, Rafael, Tyler Blackett and Paddy McNair all available, however, and the possibility to Marcos Rojo playing at left-back, it makes sense for Van Gaal to strengthen the backline with a natural defender in place of Young or Valencia, but I would stay true to form and let them keep their places.

    In midfield Carrick, Herrera and Mata deserve their places on recent form, the concern is always Fellani. Is lack of mobility in terms of covering Bertrand’s runs forward could be a problem as well as being the type of player likely to be flustered by Southampton's pressing, and lash out in retaliation, but he's also a possible goalscorer. He's specialised at shuttling forward down the right to meet deep left-wing crosses - the method that resulted in the opener against Arsenal (an own goal) and Stoke (through Fellaini himself) and if up against Yoshida, he'll fancy his chances. I think Southampton will play a more reactive game so he keeps his place.

    As mentioned it would not be a surprise to see James Wilson start again, but Rooney is always going to play under Van Gaal rightly or wrongly and with Falcao not quite ready to fully challenge Van Persie and Southampton likely to play slightly deeper Wilson drops to the bench.
     
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    Borys said:
    No, that's how we played last time. I guess it's because a) Herrera is doing pretty well at the tip of the diamond and b) LvG prefers left footed players on left side
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    Okay, okay. I stand corrected! He has been doing well. I just see him as a natural central midfielder and as ' you do ' on the internet I simply assumed everyone else was wrong :D
     
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