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Manchester United 0:2 Newcastle United

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Mon, 30 December 2024 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Woziak said:
    If he doesn’t he’ll be gone, he has no status in the EPL and losing is becoming far too easy for him to accept, we should get rid of him if he doesn’t get 6 points from next 4 EPL games and go get Iraola from Bournemouth. He plays 433 and thats what we need. Ruben will be sacked if he oversees another 2 loses in 3 or 4 PL games

    He just loooks lost in the EPL we are not playing an offensive 3421 system, so he’s already compromised his principles we are playing Narrow 5221 with no pace on the counter so a complete blunt offensive unit.

    To put this in perspective this will be his 8th PL game for 7 PL points and Liverpool will be 9 for 7. That’s 0.77 points per game or 29.88 over a whole season.

    This experiment has failed you can’t have any coach of United getting 1 point or less per game. ETH was running at 1.37 points per game this season which is 52 points and probably 10th.and he was sacked, this is far worse. SJR will not give Amorim much more time, he’ll be sacked by Feb 1st
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    He won't be sacked, he won't change anything. He will be here next season for sure.
     
    mav_9me said:
    You can blame the manager all you want. This one, next one, whoever. But how can Casemiro miss that chance that badly. At some point the players have to do the basics.
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    Also he had absolutely NO ONE around him. Its as easy as passing the ball beyond the goal keeper. Instead he tries to be cute with a curled chip shot.

    Been a United fan for decades and this is the worst live game I've seen of a United team.

    Zirkzee, i have no words for that performance.
     
    These players aren't our friends. They are highly-paid professionals, as are the manager and coaches. They are paid handsomely to perform a job, and in Zirkzee's case he isn't up to standards. Cheering his substitution is harsh but also a good way to let the powers know this is unacceptable. It's not about Real Madrid levels of entitlement, it's about pulling their fecking finger out.

    There should be an inquest, at minimum, regarding how Zirkzee ended up in a United shirt -- although he's not the only player that has mystified.
     
    Woziak said:
    If he doesn’t he’ll be gone, he has no status in the EPL and losing is becoming far too easy for him to accept, we should get rid of him if he doesn’t get 6 points from next 4 EPL games and go get Iraola from Bournemouth. He plays 433 and thats what we need. Ruben will be sacked if he oversees another 2 loses in 3 or 4 PL games

    He just loooks lost in the EPL we are not playing an offensive 3421 system, so he’s already compromised his principles we are playing Narrow 5221 with no pace on the counter so a complete blunt offensive unit.

    To put this in perspective this will be his 8th PL game for 7 PL points and Liverpool will be 9 for 7. That’s 0.77 points per game or 29.88 over a whole season.

    This experiment has failed you can’t have any coach of United getting 1 point or less per game. ETH was running at 1.37 points per game this season which is 52 points and probably 10th.and he was sacked, this is far worse. SJR will not give Amorim much more time, he’ll be sacked by Feb 1st
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    Settle down. He’s not getting sacked until he’s given some players that suit his system
     
    lolok said:
    Give me a break dude. There is a reason Amorin didn't want to take the job until summer of 2025, bc he wanted a preseason and the ability to bring in players to fit his system and dump the players who aren't good enough.

    Unfortunately for him, he took the job midseason and is stuck with a ridiculously poor squad that ETH spent how much on? 600 million over 3 years? Do we all not forget that ETH got like 11 points in 9 matches earlier in the season before getting sacked? This team was absolutely wank under ETH and most of the guys were signed under ETH's tenure.

    You think SAF can undo 10 years of incompetence in 2 months? Nope. Neither can Amorin or anyone else. Pep and Klopp couldn't win with this sad sack of players.

    There will be more pain. You are going to have to learn to deal with it.
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    Not if it means we are in a relegation battle my friend, SHR will press the exit button, it’s what he does?
     
    Tom Van Persie said:
    He's not a wing back. Carragher did some brilliant analysis before the game pointing out that him and Dalot don't understand the role.
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    Nah that's not it. He's got his mate De Ligt next to him for cover, he must know to take the risk of getting skinned if neccesary, but he has to get out there quicker. Any defender must know that.
     
    kouroux said:
    Getting booed is a shit aspect of football but if you play badly at a big club, it's to be expected. I don't understand why one would feel that sorry for Zirkzee, he's been given many opportunities to show himself and he's been consistently shit
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    If you paid a lot of money for a gig and the lead singer turned up drunk and refused to sing, the guitarist botched all of their solos, the drum played horrendously out of time and the lights and sound continuously cut out, the crowd would rightfully boo. I don't see why these overpaid, pampered millionaires deserve to be let off the hook.
     
    So after all these years, performances on tones like tonight, booing is the problem, now thats funny, guess we deserve it then lul
     
    Under LVG, Mourinho and OGS, we were a team that fights for CL football.

    Ten Haag made us a middle of the table team.
     
    Problem, we have not enough players to replace the bad ones.
    Martinez a horror show...
    Zirkzee a black hole
    and a CL winner, who can not pass or hit the ball
     
    Why does Newcastle’s no.2 look like he was moulded by the guys who made chicken run?
     
    MrBest said:
    Agreed but I think Amorim is getting away with some off decisions. Maz at right centre back was working, amad at right wing back. Not sure why he juggled it around. Play the players where they perform for now.
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    Oh yeah he's made some mad decisions, but the club is at the "feckit" point ATM, there's not much anyone can do to fix anything this season.
     
    We neglected CM under Ole, ending up relying on Mc Fred, neither who were in their natural positions.
    Under ETH we brought in two old players to fill the CM gap, both aging with tired legs, with Eriksen devoid of any physical or defensive attributes and yet we didn’t address this gaping hole until we brought in Ugarte.
    Too late and too little.
    The ship was already starting to sink.
    We are desperately in need of strengthening the CM, both creatively and defensively.
    Kobbie is a talented prospect, but lacks the speed and defensive dynamism to be a dominant CM player.
    Collyer hasn’t been given any playing time since his injury, but despite his inexperience, at least showed a positive, battling mentality, when he had a brief spell of appearances.

    Until we sort the CM out, we are going to continue struggling.
     
    Insane he’s left Eriksen on as left attacker
     
    the players aren't doing all they can, they just coasting through and Amorim is not budging on his system, he will persist with it, and no matter what happens, these cnuts of players will lose games whether we play counter attack 4231/433 or we play 343, they are gonna perform badly, guaranteed.

    These players now know that they are the joke team of the league, if they have pride in themselves, they will play their hearts out but they won't
     
    Unam333 said:
    Is Zirkzee to blame for this whole collapse? He’s part of the team who is struggling for confidence. So, it’s alright now to bully then? We teach our children not to bully, but it’s alright for us adults to jeer and bully a young man who’s still finding his feet? This is football mate. What if Zirkzee was your young boy? Would it been ok to single him out? Those matchgoing fans always have a choice, they knew exactly what kind of state our club is in. Yet, they still renewed their season ticket and bought the tickets to see this game.
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    Whose bullying anyone? A player was playing a stinker, he got subbed, the fans gave their views about his performance.

    Shouldn't fans be allowed to give their views? Last time I checked Manchester is not in north korea
     
    Superunknown said:
    If you paid a lot of money for a gig and the lead singer turned up drunk and refused to sing, the guitarist botched all of their solos, the drum played horrendously out of time and the lights and sound continuously cut out, the crowd would rightfully boo. I don't see why these overpaid, pampered millionaires deserve to be let off the hook.
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    Yeah the whole band would booed then wouldn't it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't hear many boos at half time...
     
    Came from 2-0 to win 3-2 against this lot a few years back at OT. So that guarantees the same result tonight.
     
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Score Predictions

56,126,22
  • Man Utd win
  • Newcastle win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 18% Man Utd 0:3 Newcastle
  • 16% Man Utd 2:1 Newcastle
  • 12% Man Utd 0:2 Newcastle
  • 12% Man Utd 1:3 Newcastle
  • 8% Man Utd 1:2 Newcastle
  • 6% Man Utd 0:4 Newcastle
  • 5% Man Utd 1:1 Newcastle
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 2:0 Newcastle
  • 2% Man Utd 0:9 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 1:0 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 1:4 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 4:3 Newcastle
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 Newcastle
  • 0% Man Utd 2:5 Newcastle
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Newcastle
Overall possession
52.7% 47.3%
Shots
10 12
Shots on target
1 4
Total touches in the box
17 19
Goalkeeper saves
2 0
Fouls
13 8
Corners
2 3

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