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Sat, 10 September 2016 @ 12:30pm BST
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    SirAnderson said:
    Hearing there is a chance Valencia will not play as he is coming back Friday, the day before the match, jet lag and all. Who from City's Argentinians were on duty?
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    Not sure, but Fernandinho is pretty important for them
     
    I agree witht the person above; not sure Valencia will be able to play. Huge opportunity for Darmian assuming he starts.

    Is Fellaini fit? Him and Pogba should be the CM's. I'd keep Martial in, he hasn't been great but I think he'll come good.

    Only change I'd make is Mhky for Mata, think his pace could help us.

    Those are the only three question marks in our lineup for me.


    What is city gonna look like?

    Same 4141 but with no Auguro or will Pep go more pragmatic?
     
    Cheers buddy.
    Uncle Bunkle said:
    That's so shit-cool Sal & think of the bigger picture man.

    I was trekin in the jungles of Indonesia in 2002 & missed Ireland's 1st 2 group games at the World Cup. Plus i'd no idea that Keano had left the camp until a french bloke rammed it down my throat in a bar in Bajawa, on the island of Flores. He didnt like the Irish at all for some reason & i was nice as pie to him too..

    Make the most of your travels & life experiences - because when you get older, you mostly do less of it!
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    I can't get much older buddy lol I'm 45 and feeling like 65 today haha. If the lass allows me to I'll stay back at the hotel but we know how that'll end. She's a blue scouse. I know and I'm sorry!!
     
    Even with jet lag, Valencia should absolutely start. It would be insane to bring in Darmian for his first involvement of the season in the Manchester derby. We'll already be missing Fellaini and possibly Mkhitaryan. Changing a winning team too much is asking for trouble and there's no way Mourinho will even consider it imo.
     
    VP89 said:
    Play with wider men in midfield - Lingard/Martial or Mkhitaryan/Martial. It won't be a game for Mata imo.
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    Or you could play with 2 very attacking, fast full backs like Shaw and Valencia. Considering that, we could probably get away with only having one fast winger. I'd assume Mourinho would like to start Mkhitaryan for this one if he's fit. Lingard wasn't involved in the last game even though he said he was fit before that so not sure if he'll be getting into the team. Could see Martial getting dropped. Thought he was terrible against Hull and was poor in the previous games also with the possible exception of the 2nd half against Southampton. Wouldn't be surprised to see Mkhi and Mata as our wide options. Would be a nice surprise to see Rashford starting though.
     
    Hold the gate for the first twenty minutes and game will be back to normal speed by. Go to half time nil nil and we set ourselves for a great second half with Rashford coming in and scoring one.
     
    The kid with the name I can't spell has shown very little outside of the box in his short career. This gives us the freedom to push up and condense the midfield.
    This is a huge advantage. City can't afford to lose this imo. We have Watford away next and a so-so Leicester at home.
    There is a realistic scenario where it could be mid October away to Liverpool being tbe first time we drop any points.
    I don't think a Mourinho side, who have set a blistering pace at the start of the season, have ever been caught.
    This would be a huge win or point for City if they manage it.
     
    City will win this game. No logical reason behind my opinion. Just one of those football funny moments thing.
     
    MartialsBeard said:
    City will win this game. No logical reason behind my opinion. Just one of those football funny moments thing.
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    Your just nervous before a huge game which is normal, but we do have the advantage here and are more likely to win than city. I predicted 1-1 tho as I see neither team being fully committed and not wanting to lose it but I guess we will have to wait and see. Either way I'm really excited.
     
    CM10 said:
    Or we could drop Rooney, build around Pogba and leave the defending to those who are better at it.

    Rooney and Martial. It's worth considering though that while Rooney got the assist against Hull, that shouldn't cover for the fact that his overall performance was wholly underwhelming.
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    Tbf, almost all attackers in that game was underwhelming.

    It does not help that we have another slow striker Zlatan playing with him.
     
    Will still be a difficult game without Aguero. We should go all out for this. Replace Rooney and Fellaini with Micky and Herrera.
     
    EyeInTheSky said:
    Good post. I would be worried about throwing smalling in there for his first game and in such a high-pressure game as he is likely to make a rash decision at the best of times. What do you think we should do or not do about De Bruyne?
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    I think whether Smalling plays could also depend on how far Bailly is traveling for his two internationals and when he gets back, as we have the annoying Saturday lunchtime kick-off. De Bruyne tends to float out wide right a lot so I'd trust Shaw to pick him up
     
    Miki wont be involved he has a third degree bruise on his upper thigh and is suspected to be out for 7-10 days. Although that is a big blow for us I suspect he wouldnt have started anyway.
     
    MartialsBeard said:
    Miki wont be involved he has a third degree bruise on his upper thigh and is suspected to be out for 7-10 days. Although that is a big blow for us I suspect he wouldnt have started anyway.
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    Meh. The report is from the Armenian FA, not from United. All they said was he would miss their qualifier and this type of injury can take 7-10 days to heal. Nothing about him actually being out that long. I'm not saying he won't miss, i'm saying let's wait until he's back in Manchester getting looked at by the medical staff and officially ruled out by Jose.
     
    I don't think there will be any changes in the line up.

    Valencia will start, even if he is flying the day before. He can travel business class, and sleep through the whole trip and then sleep again at night, he will be adequately rested.
     
    If Mata starts I don't think we have a chance of winning unfortuanately.
     
    Defend and attack on counter,start this with Rashford and Lingard as wing forward, with Pogba/Fellaini/Rooney in 3 man MF.
     
    With Aguero out - Sterling will be key for City. That is why I want us to go with someone on the right side who is capable of doing lots of defending. If Fellaini is out - this team could be interesting.

    De Gea - Shaw, Bailly, Blind, Valencia - Carrick - Martial, Pogba, Rooney, Herrera - Zlatan

    With Herrera keeping tabs on Sterling
     
    City will move the ball quickly and press high in all areas so therefore we should limit the number of slow players and players more uncomfortable with ball in our line up; Blind, Carrick, Fellaini, Rooney, Mata and Zlatan come to mind. Of that lot, only Blind and Zlatan should start imo.
     
    Mkhitaryan out is a big loss, they'll flood the centre and we'll need the pace and legs to stretch them out wide. Highly doubt we'll see it but Martial and Rashford flanking Zlatan on the wings could be excellent. Three man Pogba, Herrera, and Schneiderlin/Fellaini midfield.
     
    DWelbz19 said:
    Mkhitaryan out is a big loss, they'll flood the centre and we'll need the pace and legs to stretch them out wide. Highly doubt we'll see it but Martial and Rashford flanking Zlatan on the wings could be excellent. Three man Pogba, Herrera, and Schneiderlin/Fellaini midfield.
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    Has it been confirmed that Micki's out for this game, because i didnt get that memo?
     
    Uncle Bunkle said:
    Has it been confirmed that Micki's out for this game, because i didnt get that memo?
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    The Armenian FA said he has heavy bruising that will leave him out for 7-10 days. Will definitely miss the Armenia qualifier this week.
     
    Why don't all the South American games take place on Tuesday latest? To give their European players a chance on the weekend games.

    And whoever decided this game should be an early kick off on a Saturday after internationals needs a slap.
     
    DWelbz19 said:
    The Armenian FA said he has heavy bruising that will leave him out for 7-10 days. Will definitely miss the Armenia qualifier this week.
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    I'd say he'll be grand then man - aslong as he gets his arse back to Carrington & put's it in an ice bath..

    On a sidenote - did you have any money on Portugal to win, or are the powers that be, taking the micki (pun intended) out of you?
     
    RedStarUnited said:
    Why don't all the South American games take place on Tuesday latest? To give their European players a chance on the weekend games.

    And whoever decided this game should be an early kick off on a Saturday after internationals needs a slap.
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    I dont think CONMEBOL(LOX) - the South American Football Federation, gives a rats arse about european leagues & clubs, Red.

    On your understandable annoyance of lunchtime kick-off's; these type of games (same as with our Pool games & Rangers vs Celtic games) used to always be played at lunchtime because the cops think both sets of fans wont have time to get pissed-up & it narrows the potential for trouble.

    It's pure nonsense though - fan's just get up earlier than they normally would on matchday (before dawn with many) & get on the sauce, or just stay up partying from the night before.

    Another reason could be, that the Prem is trying to maximise global viewership with this kick-off time; but it must be the asian market they're targeting - because they're around 7 hours ahead of GMT (perfect time for that region), whilst the States is 5-8 hours behind GMT - depending on what coast you live on.

    Total bummer if you're stateside & you're not out on a session the night before. They should be though - as it's cracking way to end a night out.

    I used to watch United's Prem games in the pub at 2am or so, when i lived in New Zealand & watch United's Champions League games in a railway station cafe at around 6am (when the game wasnt on Sky - no red button in those days), which was just around the corner from where i worked - total pain in the bollox not havin a few bevvies in ya though, but i took a day off the odd time & went on an early-morn lash.

    Feck it - i was on a working holiday visa, so it would have been rude not too!
     
    Uncle Bunkle said:
    I'd say he'll be grand then man - aslong as he gets his arse back to Carrington & put's it in an ice bath..

    On a sidenote - did you have any money on Portugal to win, or are the powers that be, taking the micki (pun intended) out of you?
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    Nah. :D I think it was due to the poll during the Euros, where about 16 or so people voted for Portugal.
     
    DWelbz19 said:
    Nah. :D I think it was due to the poll during the Euros, where about 16 or so people voted for Portugal.
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    Ok, cool man - well done anyway. Good call :)

    Wonder what the odds would have been though - probably around 7-1?!

    Just checked & betway had them at 25-1 & bet365 had them at 10-1.

    Back to the game - are you goin to it buddy?

    The atmosphere will be electric & Manchester will be rockin too!
     
    Ban said:
    Like when we won 4-2 at OT for instance?
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    Which is literally irrelevant to this game... To beat this city team we have to play with pace out wide so that we can counter them effectively and pin back their inverted wingers. Mata is a quality player in certain circumstances and if he played instead of Rooney in the number 10 position i would be all for it but if he starts RW then that pretty much takes out our main threat going forwards. Miki would be my first choice at RW but if hes injured then lingard has to come in in my opinion.
     
    Not sure if it's already posted been here, but here is the promo for the upcoming Derby game by the @aditya_reds. I personally don't like to see this as Mou v. Pep but it's a quality video nonetheless.

     
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