Manchester United 0:3 Liverpool

Who's Kissing Cameras? · Sep 1, 2024

TsuWave said:
Carragher speaks more sense about United than Neville. Consistently too

He does. Every single point he makes about us is spot on from Carra.

He predicted Ten Hag to be gone by December. Think he’ll be right about that too.

Pscholes18 · Sep 1, 2024

These players are so mentally weak, they crumble when the cards are stacked against them.

TsuWave · Sep 1, 2024

No Liverpool manager won their first game at OT since 1936???

Insanity · Sep 1, 2024

Thom Merrilin said:
It's obviously not enough to just have 11 players out there doing something. Is that what you see?

The style of play seems to heavily depend upon pressing and winning the ball really high up the pitch. But even when that's not working we still have patterns of play. For example, when building from the back Casemiro drops into the back three, one of the full backs goes wide and the other one comes inside with Mainoo.

Wonderful!

By when will that have us not get embarrassed by our biggest rivals at home?

Pughnichi · Sep 1, 2024

Andersons Dietician said:
People thinks it’s crazy but when we get rid of them we’ll be a better team.

In almost total agreement. Bruno hit some form at the back end of last season…but he’s just so god damn wasteful. And his attitude is awful. Full of petulance when things aren’t going his way and it makes for even more terrible decision making.

Rashford couldn’t start again and I wouldn’t care less.

Casemiro looked a bit sharper the start of this season…but quickly regressed back to being awful

Amad motm

Exiled_Red · Sep 1, 2024

Banana Republic said:
The Saudi’s are no longer stocking their teams with retiring players, looking to play out their careers.
They want some Europe’s and Africa’s current top talent, if they can get their hands on them.
Casemiro would be lucky to a lucrative final gig there.

He's making 300k a week while being an absolute liability. We should give him away if anyone will take him. PSR consequences be damned.

Pronewbie · Sep 1, 2024

This is why I had Diallo start this match with Rashford... We wouldn't have conceded the 2 in the 1st half with him as an outlet.

hellhunter · Sep 1, 2024

xG 1.4 - 1.7 apparently. That's wild

Superunknown · Sep 1, 2024

NewGlory said:
Anybody thinks Ten Hag survives beyond Christmas? I don't

He needs to go now. Why prolong the inevitable? It's going to be 1 win and 2 losses out of 3 games. He's had enough time to implement his ideas and bring players in and it's just not working. The football is too shite to watch, the players don't know what they're doing, we're not scoring goals and we're not defending well. He's literally doing everything wrong.

Buster15 · Sep 1, 2024

Lost bear said:
Unable to watch this. Jesus , it sounds bad. What has happened?

Think yourself lucky. The best description is men against boys. Professionals against a park side.

Dobba · Sep 1, 2024

moodyred said:
Amad lost the ball and didn't bother to trace back.

His shirt doesn't say Rashford on the back, so he's grand.

C3Pique · Sep 1, 2024

Should have been sacked after Brighton tbf. Failure just seems inevitable at this stage.

Bobade · Sep 1, 2024

NewGlory said:
Mazraoui and Dalot are the only players that deserve any credit. Everybody else has been mostly shit. Maybe Onana least of the shitty ones, but nothing spectacular, either

I think Amad has looked decent also.

PoTMS · Sep 1, 2024

I think there's a case to say Amad has been our best player today.

thisisnottaken1 · Sep 1, 2024

TsuWave said:
No Liverpool manager won their first game at OT since 1936???

Great. Another record broken.

IncyWincySpider · Sep 1, 2024

TsuWave said:
No Liverpool manager won their first game at OT since 1936???

Another record gone.

IrishMcD · Sep 1, 2024

As I feared, Zirkzee looks poor. As most of us have said for a while, Onana nowhere near good enough. Bruno and Rashford need to be booted out of the club.

OldSchoolManc · Sep 1, 2024

More bad records broken.
1936?!

laughtersassassin · Sep 1, 2024

Collyer not looking good out there

Blood Mage · Sep 1, 2024

hellhunter said:
Slot and Hürzeler taking over teams and immediately getting a beat out of them. It's just depressing at this stage

Not to take anything away from Slot but Klopp has left an unbelievably well oiled machine behind for him.

NewGlory · Sep 1, 2024

elmo said:
Amad

Yeah, I was thinking of mostly starting squad. Amad has not been on for much length of the time, but has been a positive impact, indeed

sixdwarf · Sep 1, 2024

Denis79 said:
I am not in charge but ETH doesn't seem to be the one. This poor performance is not a abnormality with him in charge, more the standard I would say.

It has not been an abnormality under a series if rejected managers. I wouldn't be surprised if Van Nistelrooy is there to take over when it goes off a cliff.

Swordsman · Sep 1, 2024

astracrazy said:
Sorry I'm missing your point

We were crying out for a prem ready #9. We signed another young, unproven striker who looks like he needs a season .

It would have been worth it in comparison to what we did.

Zirkzee is not #9. He is #9.5

Melville Red · Sep 1, 2024

Kinky Melinky said:
He looked seriously pissed off didn't he?

He did indeed, probably wishing he hadn’t bothered and thinking of that lovely lobster he could have had for dinner back home.

glazed · Sep 1, 2024

Carragher really is a pantomime twat

elmo · Sep 1, 2024

Thom Merrilin said:
Yeah that's fair but I thought the idea was Zirkzee would be feeding our goalscoring wingers not the other way around.

He needs to get the ball to feed them but nobody’s passing him the ball other than Rashford. Bruno is an embarrassment today.

CloneMC16 · Sep 1, 2024

TsuWave said:
Carragher speaks more sense about United than Neville. Consistently too

Pretty much everything Carragher has said about United over the last 10 years has been right.

Dobba · Sep 1, 2024

PoTMS said:
I think there's a case to say Amad has been our best player today.

There's also people who'd make the case that Donald Trump is America's greatest president.

United Hobbit · Sep 1, 2024

I wouldn't give ETH til Christmas, the season will be gone by then

Please NOT Southgate though. Just no.

Betson · Sep 1, 2024

Don't blame the fans for leaving , this is pathetic. The reason this is not 5 or 6 is because they have eased off.

Tom Van Persie · Sep 1, 2024

PoTMS said:
I think there's a case to say Amad has been our best player today.

He's come on and offered way more than our other attackers. He should never have been dropped.

astracrazy · Sep 1, 2024

Swordsman said:
Zirkzee is not #9. He is #9.5

Yeah, not what we needed then....

TsuWave · Sep 1, 2024

RedSky said:
That's because one is based on emotion, Neville is very obviously angry. While Carragher is being logical because he's happy.

Being angry causes him to insinuate that getting rid of this guy as soon as possible would be "stupid"?

Godfather · Sep 1, 2024

Is Tuchel still available?

Toblerone92 · Sep 1, 2024

TsuWave said:
Carragher speaks more sense about United than Neville. Consistently too

Neville talks utter tripe and while I loathe Carragher he doesn’t suffer from the same delusion as Neville and can see the state of things as they are.

Dobba · Sep 1, 2024

Tom Van Persie said:
He's come on and offered way more than our other attackers. He should never have been dropped.

Apart from the guy on the other side who created two gilt edged chances for our forward to miss by miles.

hellhunter · Sep 1, 2024

Blood Mage said:
Not to take anything away from Slot but Klopp has left an unbelievably well oiled machine behind for him.

That's absolutely fair, but you could get the impression we're the only club where a manager needs a full season to change anything. And it's also not just ETH

The Hilton · Sep 1, 2024

glazed said:
True but Ugarte and Hojlund might turn the corner.

Ugarte would have made a huge difference today, as it's unlikely he'd have single handedly given away the first two goals as Casemiro did.

We're still impotent and fell to pieces after that happened, which obviously isn't acceptable, but we were doing OK until we gave them 2 goals.

Grand Vizier · Sep 1, 2024

CannibalSpectre said:
I don't think Mount would've changed the outcome with his pressing. We've been categorically outperformed and outthought on every blade of this grass.

How can you not see that? This shambolic system under Ten Hags charge will not be saved by individual players

Individuals help out their teams all the time. But yes, the priority is absolutely to get an actual system, preferably it involves ten Hag out of this team.

SirMattlives · Sep 1, 2024

Obviously talk of sacking ETH will be common but the new team reviewed this a couple of months back and publicly decided to keep him. Think they have to at least give him to December rather than pull the plug three games into a new season. And of course, it raises the same old 'who do we chose' debate given they apparently met with possible candidates earlier.

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