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Manchester United 2:1 Chelsea

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    the starting midfield/midfield subs has to be the worst in the top half by far. Cant even be close. Know there are some injuries but amazing how much work still needs to be done moving forward for the midfield.
     
    Thinking of lumping on Chelsea tonight at 6/4 it's just easy money
     
    A lot of people are saying this, but ten Hag clearly doesn't see or want Mainoo as an 8 type of player to play in the half spaces, but rather prefers him as a first phase player, and actually, I do, too.

    I think, the fact that ten Hag bought Mount tells you everything about the type of profile he wanted in midfield, i.e. running off the ball, goals, etc. McTominay, whether people like him or not, is the closest profile to Mount, and I believe that's exactly why he's in there.

    I would agree that Ten Hag obviously wants that kind of midfield, and that's actually worrying part. Most of people here thought he is something that he clearly isn't, because the style of football we have played in last year or so is obviously pretty close to what Ten Hag actually wants to play.

    Just further confirms that the praise he put for Everton and Galatasaray games is realistic, he really thought we played well those games. And that's exactly why we need another manager because he is not good enough.
     
    So, he dropped Rashford because fans told him so? What a great manager we have.
     
    Evra and shearer really going after players, good to see

    No fan should excuse players not working hard by blaming managers
     
    Constructive. And insightful.
    Why does he persist with a non existent midfield? His instructions clearly are not working, why is there always a million miles between our front 5 and our back 5? Why can't he get McTominay to track his runners or start from further down the pitch a little? If that's not possible, why doesn't he play a different player instead?
     
    Amrabat and Mctomminay, feck me.
    ETH should’ve expelled McTominay from senior squad for underperformance. Instead he starts him like 20th time in a row :(

    What does ETH see in him? It should be something than no one else notices.
     
    What changes would you have made?

    That’s what I want to know.

    Looking at the bench we don’t have any other options. I get the excitement for kobbie but he can’t play every game.

    Maybe pellistri for Antony but that’s not obvious and AWB for Dalot doesn’t seem like a game changer to me.

    Varane, Cas, Licha, mount and Eriksen are injured. Rashford and martial have benched themselves for being shite and Sancho has ruled himself out.
     
    Thinking of lumping on Chelsea tonight at 6/4 it's just easy money
    Regardless of what happens tonight, the betting odds should be a monumental wake-up for some as to where we are versus even the Chelsea clown car.
     
    You're right, but that's the worrying part. That he still thinks this setup will work with the options we have. It was more about us hoping ten Hag would change the setup rather than using Mainoo as an attack minded 8.

    Call me crazy, but I think we've been better of late. Against Copenhagen and Galatasary, I believe we arguably saw our best performances this season. Yes, results didn't go our way, but we looked better as an attacking unit, we controlled the games, and pressed relatively well. Yes, having a ball player in place of McTominay would obviously take us to another level, but recently, ten Hag has asked Bruno to do the ball playing stuff, with McTominay focusing on stretching the opposition defence. It's similar to what we see with Havertz (runner) and Odegaard (playmaker) at Arsenal. Problem is, Bruno is too erratic in possession, at times.
     
    That starting eleven will work hard and give it their all, you can say that about them, at least.

    That said I think we're well due an absolute pumping at home and I've got a bad feeling about this one.
     
    Why even is VDB on the bench, a player who was all but told to find a new club. Where is Hannibal, and if he is injured I would have Gore ahead of VDB, who already knows that his time here is over.
     
    Makes sense. Questionable points to the team were keeping Shaw at LCB or moving him to LB, RB is 50/50 anyway, Mainoo vs amrabat i get rotating between them game to game. Front 4 picks itself right now (based on others more dropping out rather than these deserving to be in, must be said).

    More than player selection, what matters is tactical instructions. We'll see what Ten Hag has in mind.
     
    Oly ball 2 years after he's gone. Are we at rock bottom yet? Please, for the love of Cantona. Ten Hag still giving us fans the big "feck you". Starting McTominay and Magaloff seems like he's angling to get shitcanned while still getting paid out. Varane dropped again to prove some petty, never explained point? I back the manager but only because there's NO other choice. We fans need to strike the team and show WHO actually matters. Not the owners, managers or players. They can all "go feck themselves".
     
    How McTominay keeps getting game will always puzzle me. Surely at this stage you give a youngster a chance over a poor to average midfielder? It's a joke he's still at the club.
     
    We’ve decided to start without a midfield again. And what Diogo Dalot need to do to have a spell out the team?
     
    That’s what I want to know.

    Looking at the bench we don’t have any other options. I get the excitement for kobbie but he can’t play every game.

    Maybe pellistri for Antony but that’s not obvious and AWB for Dalot doesn’t seem like a game changer to me.

    Varane, Cas, Licha, mount and Eriksen are injured. Rashford and martial have benched themselves for being shite and Sancho has ruled himself out.

    What’s even more remarkable is looking at that central defence and central midfield and people are wondering how the manager is struggling to get his style up and running.

    And now people think banking on an unproven 18 year old is an acceptable situation for our manager to be in. He should bin a more experienced McT for a lad who hasn’t played 5 games for the team. Yeh the problem is all the manager …

    People complain about certain players starting as if ETH has a loaded bench of quality.
     
    Looking at it and taking bad performances and injuries into account, it's the best of a bad bunch.
    The choice of subs points towards EtH expecting this to be a draw at best.
     
    I am not a fan of EtH at all, but Rashford deserved to be dropped

    He needed to be dropped long time ago, not when fans made a riot about his last performance. He's been playing like this for half a year now, but he reacted just after the public shaming after Newcastle.
     
    Why even is VDB on the bench, a player who was all but told to find a new club. Where is Hannibal, and if he is injured I would have Gore ahead of VDB, who already knows that his time here is over.
    pretty much how i feel. Just wasted time. Seriously we couldnt even give vdb away, and here he is in the squad for a big matchup against chelsea. LVG was pretty boring at times but at least he gave youngsters a chance.
     
    Dalot chosen over Wan Bisska who has a good record at shuting down Sterling. McTominay chosen to start again? at least both Martial and Rashford was dropped.

    a sore back the excuse given for no Varane on the squad tonight. Does sitting on the bench give you that?
     
    Imagine telling someone in the mid 2000s that United-Chelsea would be second billing to City-Villa.

    Everything used to be at stake in these games.
     
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Score Predictions

78,82,48
  • Man Utd win
  • Chelsea win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 16% Man Utd 2:1 Chelsea
  • 12% Man Utd 1:1 Chelsea
  • 11% Man Utd 0:2 Chelsea
  • 10% Man Utd 1:2 Chelsea
  • 7% Man Utd 2:2 Chelsea
  • 7% Man Utd 2:0 Chelsea
  • 5% Man Utd 1:3 Chelsea
  • 4% Man Utd 1:0 Chelsea
  • 4% Man Utd 0:3 Chelsea
  • 4% Man Utd 3:1 Chelsea
  • 4% Man Utd 0:1 Chelsea
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Chelsea
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 Chelsea
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 3:3 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 1:4 Chelsea
  • 1% Man Utd 0:9 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 3:4 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 3:5 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 0:4 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 5:5 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 0:8 Chelsea
  • 0% Man Utd 1:5 Chelsea
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Chelsea
Possession
45% 55%
Shots
28 13
Shots on Target
9 3
Corners
12 3
Fouls
12 12

Referee

Chris Kavanagh