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Manchester City 4:1 Manchester United

Etihad Stadium

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    sunama said:
    A lot of fans predicting that we'll draw or win this.
    I am certain that some fans have not seen us play AND they are unaware of our recent results.
    We are terrible and make terrible teams look decent.

    MCFC will be the first top class team we'll have faced in a long time and it will require a minor miracle to get a draw. My expectation is a good old fashioned spanking.
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    Hate to say it but I agree with you here. Its crazy how good we make bang average teams look.
    City will probably treat us as another training session.
     
    Just beat Atletico somehow and try to knock two out of Liverpool. I honestly don't see us winning any of the 3 games but if we were to get something City is the last place I wish this.
     
    Real Name said:
    Every time it was predicted they would thump us it never happened despite the fact our form was patchy or just bad and them being brilliant. I hope my answer satisfied you.
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    The last time we played them, we lost 2-0.
    This wasn't a big scoreline, but what the scoreline doesn't say is that after winning the first half 2-0, they basically shut up shop in the 2nd half. They basically denied us possession and turned the 2nd half into a ball possession training exercise.
    If they wanted to, they probably could've scored 4+ goals.

    Every single match day thread I read, has these kinds of comments, where deluded fans believe that we have a chance against the top teams.

    Against relegation candidates (Watford), many deluded fans thought we'd put 3, 4 and even 5 goals past Watford. This, despite us taking a 4-1 battering in the reverse fixture.
    The final result was 0-0.

    In saying all of that, I understand that some of you want to be "positive" and that's okay. I prefer to be realistic.
     
    It’s a derby, Pep always seems to overthink these games at home, anything could happen. Rangnick seems to know how to beat them, it’s down to the players to execute it. 2-0 United.
     
    Interesting thing in the Telegraph on the two clubs today:

    “In the nine years since Sir Alex Ferguson retired, Manchester City have completely turned the tables on their bitter rivals Manchester United, on and off the field. Whereas once it was United who went about their business swiftly, silently and decisively, now it is City who routinely demonstrate how a football club should be run - and the red half of Manchester who are left floundering in their wake.

    Ruthlessness
    “A bus that waits for no man” is how Sir Alex Ferguson once described United. These days, it could accurately describe City. Whereas the ruthlessness that once characterised Ferguson’s regime at Old Trafford – think of how players such as Jaap Stam, David Beckham and Roy Keane were jettisoned – has given way to damaging indecision and hesitation at the club. City never dither. Their decision-making is emphatic and they never allow emotion or concerns about what others may think to cloud their judgment, unlike their opponents down the road who seem in perpetual fear of a decision coming back to haunt them or outside perceptions – a factor behind their endless stockpiling of substandard or over the hill players who should have been moved on long ago.

    Consider City’s position over Sergio Aguero last season. Despite a decade of extraordinary service, City resolved that the Argentina striker’s best days were behind him and, eschewing sentiment, announced last March that he would leave the club at the end of that season. Had United been in that situation, it would have surprised no one if they had awarded Aguero a new three-year contract.

    Managerial certainty
    United are looking for their fifth permanent manager in nine years whereas Pep Guardiola is approaching the end of his sixth season in charge. City knew who they wanted, and what they wanted, and went out and got him, and empowered him to build a dynasty with the right support structure around him and best in class in every department. Chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak, chief executive Ferran Soriano, director of football Txiki Begiristain and Guardiola make quite the team.

    United, by contrast, have either dragged their heels and missed out on targets, botched the pitch, remained blindly loyal or simply gone after the wrong man. In turn, they have watched a succession of wildly differing managers – from David Moyes and Louis van Gaal to Jose Mourinho and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – all fall horribly short within a chronically flawed set-up littered with inexperienced people in critical roles, who were or are learning on the job.”
     
    JebelSherif said:
    Interesting thing in the Telegraph on the two clubs today:

    “In the nine years since Sir Alex Ferguson retired, Manchester City have completely turned the tables on their bitter rivals Manchester United, on and off the field. Whereas once it was United who went about their business swiftly, silently and decisively, now it is City who routinely demonstrate how a football club should be run - and the red half of Manchester who are left floundering in their wake.

    Ruthlessness
    “A bus that waits for no man” is how Sir Alex Ferguson once described United. These days, it could accurately describe City. Whereas the ruthlessness that once characterised Ferguson’s regime at Old Trafford – think of how players such as Jaap Stam, David Beckham and Roy Keane were jettisoned – has given way to damaging indecision and hesitation at the club. City never dither. Their decision-making is emphatic and they never allow emotion or concerns about what others may think to cloud their judgment, unlike their opponents down the road who seem in perpetual fear of a decision coming back to haunt them or outside perceptions – a factor behind their endless stockpiling of substandard or over the hill players who should have been moved on long ago.

    Consider City’s position over Sergio Aguero last season. Despite a decade of extraordinary service, City resolved that the Argentina striker’s best days were behind him and, eschewing sentiment, announced last March that he would leave the club at the end of that season. Had United been in that situation, it would have surprised no one if they had awarded Aguero a new three-year contract.

    Managerial certainty
    United are looking for their fifth permanent manager in nine years whereas Pep Guardiola is approaching the end of his sixth season in charge. City knew who they wanted, and what they wanted, and went out and got him, and empowered him to build a dynasty with the right support structure around him and best in class in every department. Chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak, chief executive Ferran Soriano, director of football Txiki Begiristain and Guardiola make quite the team.

    United, by contrast, have either dragged their heels and missed out on targets, botched the pitch, remained blindly loyal or simply gone after the wrong man. In turn, they have watched a succession of wildly differing managers – from David Moyes and Louis van Gaal to Jose Mourinho and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – all fall horribly short within a chronically flawed set-up littered with inexperienced people in critical roles, who were or are learning on the job.”
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    BuT wE hAvE mUrToUgH!
     
    JebelSherif said:
    Interesting thing in the Telegraph on the two clubs today:

    “In the nine years since Sir Alex Ferguson retired, Manchester City have completely turned the tables on their bitter rivals Manchester United, on and off the field. Whereas once it was United who went about their business swiftly, silently and decisively, now it is City who routinely demonstrate how a football club should be run - and the red half of Manchester who are left floundering in their wake.

    Ruthlessness
    “A bus that waits for no man” is how Sir Alex Ferguson once described United. These days, it could accurately describe City. Whereas the ruthlessness that once characterised Ferguson’s regime at Old Trafford – think of how players such as Jaap Stam, David Beckham and Roy Keane were jettisoned – has given way to damaging indecision and hesitation at the club. City never dither. Their decision-making is emphatic and they never allow emotion or concerns about what others may think to cloud their judgment, unlike their opponents down the road who seem in perpetual fear of a decision coming back to haunt them or outside perceptions – a factor behind their endless stockpiling of substandard or over the hill players who should have been moved on long ago.

    Consider City’s position over Sergio Aguero last season. Despite a decade of extraordinary service, City resolved that the Argentina striker’s best days were behind him and, eschewing sentiment, announced last March that he would leave the club at the end of that season. Had United been in that situation, it would have surprised no one if they had awarded Aguero a new three-year contract.

    Managerial certainty
    United are looking for their fifth permanent manager in nine years whereas Pep Guardiola is approaching the end of his sixth season in charge. City knew who they wanted, and what they wanted, and went out and got him, and empowered him to build a dynasty with the right support structure around him and best in class in every department. Chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak, chief executive Ferran Soriano, director of football Txiki Begiristain and Guardiola make quite the team.

    United, by contrast, have either dragged their heels and missed out on targets, botched the pitch, remained blindly loyal or simply gone after the wrong man. In turn, they have watched a succession of wildly differing managers – from David Moyes and Louis van Gaal to Jose Mourinho and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – all fall horribly short within a chronically flawed set-up littered with inexperienced people in critical roles, who were or are learning on the job.”
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    Thanks for reminding us how a football club can elevate its position from rank outsiders to one of the top clubs in Europe. As long as it's willing to disregard morals and ethics and cheat like their lives depend on it, of course.

    Sheik Mansour said:
    If you can't beat them, cheat them.
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    Need I say more?
     
    Michael T said:
    I'm thinking if Ronaldo is going to score, it'll be in a big game like tomorrow, so he starts for me.
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    Perhaps. The thing is that he is getting opportunities in most games to score a goal(s). Uncharacteristically he is not taking the opportunities. (With missing chances And good opportunities soon to become a characteristic if he doesn’t rectify sharpish).
     
    We need to swallow our pride and play on the break. Sancho and Rashford wide, Cavani up top, 3 in midfield. Soak it up and counter. It’s the only way to beat these.
     
    Luckhurst has tweeted that Ronaldo and Cavani weren’t with the squad tonight .
     
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    Varane and Shaw also missing on top of Ronaldo and Cavani.
     
    People won’t like it but I am hoping for a City win here just because I don’t want to see Liverpool winning the league . We aren’t going anywhere anyways
     
    Ralf must have come to the same conclusion - better save the players for games that matter.
     
    unplayable said:
    Varane and Shaw also missing on top of Ronaldo and Cavani.
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    Chief Writer.
    Outside the hotel counting heads as they enter.

    Not only pep playing mind games perhaps.
    The two lads to limmo’d in, after hours.
     
    Ayush_reddevil said:
    People won’t like it but I am hoping for a City win here just because I don’t want to see Liverpool winning the league . We aren’t going anywhere anyways
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    You’re right. It’s not likeable to see United lose under any circumstances. City will take care of themselves and win the league, even with zero points from tomorrow.
     
    Bruno, Pogba, Sancho, Elanga, even Rashford if he can finally wake up.. We can win this. Probably won't, but we can. Not having high hopes will make it easy to watch for me, even if we get embarassed.
     
    Plant0x84 said:
    Id say in our current position, getting something from this match does matter. Even a draw would be a good result. If we lose we fall back towards Arsenal and Spurs. That would put top 4 in the balance.
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    Absolutely matters. Need to aim for a point as minimum.
    I appreciate the poster above saying that we should not be expecting anything, have we ‘not watched United recently’.

    But its new game. A Derby. With City under pressure from Liverpool, and United players needing to prove a point.
     
    I see the talks of a quadruple for Liverpool has started. Oh, feck right off. Play the kids tomorrow.
     
    PoTMS said:
    Look like Bruno false #9, it is.
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    If ever there was a game to try it! Probably more likely to go Rashford upfront with Elanga and Sancho flanking
     
    LJP said:
    Chief Writer.
    Outside the hotel counting heads as they enter.

    Not only pep playing mind games perhaps.
    The two lads to limmo’d in, after hours.
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    Been plenty of times players haven't been with the squad at the hotel but been in the playing squad come match day. I'm taking this with a pinch of salt.
     
    DDG

    AWB
    Lindelof
    Maguire
    Telles

    Mctominay
    Fred

    Bruno

    Sancho
    Rashford
    Elanga

    Smash and grab counter attacking the only way we can snatch something out if this. If not we’ll get mullered.
     
    Anyone thinks City won't win needs to wake-up.
    City are light years ahead of this team and only a really strange set of circumstances will see United get a point
     
    No good result here, either bury our top 4 hopes or potentially gift the title to the scousers.

    We better win the CL.
     
    McGrathsipan said:
    Anyone thinks City won't win needs to wake-up.
    City are light years ahead of this team and only a really strange set of circumstances will see United get a point
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    They've been lightyears ahead of us for at least the last 6 years. And yet we have picked up a win against them on average every season in that time period.
     
    Expecting a bigger scoreline than the 0-2 at Old Trafford when they took it easy on us. The gulf in quality is as big as its been for a while.
     
    Usually have a quiet confidence for this fixture. Genuinely fearing an absolute roasting.
     
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Possession
69% 31%
Shots
24 5
Shots on Target
10 2
Corners
9 3
Fouls
10 14

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