Europa League Match Day 2

FC Porto 3:3 Manchester United

Estadio do Dragao

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Thu, 3 October 2024 @ 8:00pm BST
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    Amorim is great, even the rival fans admire the guy.

    Sporting used to win a league title every 20 years, with Amorim they have won 2 in 4 years. He had a very bad year where they finished 4th, but he turned it around and won the next year.

    He is a great communicator with the press, doesn’t talk or moan about referees that much, great with young talent, and seems to get very well with players.

    Obviously not perfect, sometimes you wonder about some tactics and substitutions that don’t work, but that happens to all managers.

    Sounds like potentially a good option and perhaps the right sort of character for our squad, if (big if) he could build that bond with our players. I don't think a disciplinarian type will work here, as we are seeing now. We need somebody like Ole who has a rapport with the players, but has what Ole didn't have, the respect and ability for the players to believe in his coaching and tactical acumen.
     
    Sounds like potentially a good option and perhaps the right sort of character for our squad, if (big if) he could build that bond with our players. I don't think a disciplinarian type will work here, as we are seeing now. We need somebody like Ole who has a rapport with the players, but has what Ole didn't have, the respect and ability for the players to believe in his coaching and tactical acumen.
    Agreed. The Sporting Fans on here are pretty spot on with their recommendations. If they too think he'd be a good manager for us, I'd go with their take.
     
    Agreed. The Sporting Fans on here are pretty spot on with their recommendations. If they too think he'd be a good manager for us, I'd go with their take.
    I'm a Porto fan so I want him to leave, obviously, but yes, he is the type of guy you need and I forgot to mention the most important thing, Sporting plays great attractive offensive football.
     
    This is a no brainer team. But ETH wont select this. Expect Zikzee, Rashford and Mount to be in the team alongwith Bruno

    Edit : Would swap Amass for Dalot. You just cant reward such performances
    Agreed. One of our many problems is there are no consequences for poor performance. Dalot is much better than he showed last Sunday.He has to be dropped.
     
    Enjoy the second
    Saw some of their game against Bodö/Glimt and they look ok but nothing too special. I would guess they are a clear step below teams like Pool and Spurs. So we have a decent chance of, well, looking competitive at least.
    Ir doesn't matter how bad they are ,we are worse
     
    Ir doesn't matter how bad they are ,we are worse
    I know there is a meltdown going on here and the current narrative is that we couldn`t touch any half decent team out there. But i do think we are good enough to give them something to think about at least. We have, after all, been on the same level as Fulham, Brighton, Palace, Twente so far and comfortably beat Soton.
     
    I actually have no idea how to feel coming up towards this match. I always want MU to win, no matter how I feel about the manager and his situation. But I'm far from hopeful that we'll get 3 points here. Before the Spurs match I was actually thinking, "perfect match to turn it around, we can attack their high line and get some goals and then continue from there". But nope, ETHs stubborness and ineptitude pretty much ruined any joy I've had towards MU this season. I've really don't think things will change even if we win today and get a draw or win against Villa. ETH is still the wrong man for the job, so very confusing time as a MU fan(not for the first time since SAF left sadly).
     
    With one eye on Sunday, I think I'd play this on Thursday:

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    Rashford........................................Antony
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    ..............Bruno............Eriksen...................
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    .........................Casemiro...........................
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    Dalot............................................Mazraoui
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    ...............Martinez......Maguire...................
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    ............................Onana...............................

    They're in great form in their league and they're simply going to fight for this more. I'll be shocked if we get anything from this.

    It's a good thing our final 5 matches in the Europa are against minnows because we're probably losing the one after this one as well (Fenerbahce).
     
    Amazing how the last time we played there was that ridiculous Ronaldo 40 yarder into the top corner which won the inaugural FIFA Puskas trophy.

    I have no hope in this really. We could be 2-0 up in the first half then Porto could get one back from absolutely nowhere and we capitulate like we always do, because ETH’s in-game is absolutely abysmal and lose 4-2.
     
    I honestly don't know. I say that because he should have been sacked many times before, but wasn't, so I have very little faith in it happening now, and will feel like this until it actually happens. Since last season he has survived way too many things that should not be survivable for a Manchester United manager.
    Well if reports are true neither Berreda or Ashworth were involved in the decision to keep him this summer
     
    Do you really think the next couple of results change anything? Maybe is we magically put in some stella performances and win both games. Otherwise I think his goose is cooked and the hierarchy are likely thinking about timing and options for the next manager already.
    I think the ownership were hoping he can deliver an ok performance level until the end of this season and replace him next summer. That's been my impression since they took over. No clear person to take over this summer, very costly to replace, we're in a shit financial situation and have a ton that we need to do with our squad anyway. So I think they always looked at summer 2025 as the manager change.

    The only way that changes is a truly shit run of results when it looks untenable. It looked like that vs Palace last season, then improved a bit. It's looking like that now. The only way it tips to actually sack him is if shit like the recent form continues over the next 2 games IMO and they feel they have to step in to somewhat save the season. Otherwise they'll look at the cost of sacking him and weigh that up to whatever percentage chance they deem we can make CL football and the money we'd get from that if we do sack him.

    So I'm very much in the "whatever result is required to sack him" category for every game until he gets sacked, I've had enough and just can't stand seeing him in charge anymore. One off results will do feck all other than prolong the decision
     
    I think the ownership were hoping he can deliver an ok performance level until the end of this season and replace him next summer. That's been my impression since they took over. No clear person to take over this summer, very costly to replace, we're in a shit financial situation and have a ton that we need to do with our squad anyway. So I think they always looked at summer 2025 as the manager change.

    The only way that changes is a truly shit run of results when it looks untenable. It looked like that vs Palace last season, then improved a bit. It's looking like that now. The only way it tips to actually sack him is if shit like the recent form continues over the next 2 games IMO and they feel they have to step in to somewhat save the season. Otherwise they'll look at the cost of sacking him and weigh that up to whatever percentage chance they deem we can make CL football and the money we'd get from that if we do sack him.

    So I'm very much in the "whatever result is required to sack him" category for every game until he gets sacked, I've had enough and just can't stand seeing him in charge anymore. One off results will do feck all other than prolong the decision
    Its already untenable. The poor start to the season had made it so hes toast. Its just a matter of when not if
     
    Porto fan here, I already predicted the 11 in this thread.

    Quality is hard to tell, very young team in a rebuilding stage, but with some good prospects for the future. We have had some good games, some bad, but still, best start of the season in years.

    We most likely play 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 when defending, and try to high press you.
    We struggle against really defensive teams that counter attack, hopefully Man Utd won’t do that.

    Best players, Diogo Costa, Alan Varela, Nico Gonzalez, Galeno and Samu Omorodion.

    Samu is currently 5 games 5 goals, so hopefully he will continue his goal streak.

    We are a far cry from the best Porto teams of the last decades but still competitive, passed the Champions League stage last year and lost to Arsenal on penalties on the knockout.

    Had an awful start to the Europa league last week, so I don’t know what to expect, you guys are awful, but you’re still Man Utd, stronger than the teams we play in our league.

    No clear favorite in my opinion.
    Thanks for the info, mate.
     
    Pressure is mounting on ETH, we’re going to play well and win, which would save his job for a while longer, rinse and repeat.
     
    Watch us winning this easily
    One thing that's happened quite a lot this past decade is when the fan base has hit rock bottom, and is predicting every game a loss, we usually pull a win out of the bag.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see us beat one of Porto or Villa.
     
    Good to be in Europa, Thursday night football. Hopefully they can get out of the hole with a good display at least. Funny stuff coming from the likes of Eriksen, “they wanted it more”. Is there something in the water at Carrington? Or is it like we turned up to compete in the Tour de France without drugs?
     
    One thing that's happened quite a lot this past decade is when the fan base has hit rock bottom, and is predicting every game a loss, we usually pull a win out of the bag.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see us beat one of Porto or Villa.
    Yeah that happens but it’s just a matter of time now.
     
    One thing that's happened quite a lot this past decade is when the fan base has hit rock bottom, and is predicting every game a loss, we usually pull a win out of the bag.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see us beat one of Porto or Villa.

    Just want the Erik era over, trouble is that involves wanting the team to suffer pain at Porto and Villa
     
    Onana
    Mazraoui De Ligt Martinez Dalot
    Casemiro Ugarte
    Fernandes Mount Garnacho
    Rashford​
    Why would you want Bruno as the RW? Where he's obviously even worse than he has been centrally... Amad-Eriksen/Mount-Garnacho and Højlund up top is my preferred attacking setup for this match.
     
    Confidence on the Caf really low.
    To date only 9% of votes going for a United win
     
    why?

    Amad Eriksen Garnacho
    Hojlund​
    Why would you want Bruno as the RW? Where he's obviously even worse than he has been centrally... Amad-Eriksen/Mount-Garnacho and Højlund up top is my preferred attacking setup for this match.
    He's still our most creative player and our wingers haven't created much lately. Neither has Bruno but I back him over Amad for Porto away. Tough European away game so I want both Ugarte and Casemiro in front of the defence. Mount gets a lot of stick but he's one of the few who can press and I want to see him at #10. Hojlund doesn't look fit at all. Eriksen could start but he can't press and I don't want him in a midfield 2 here.
     
    I was just thinking the same. It's the first game in a while, where I will probably not watch it, even though I could.
    Since early on last season, I would just have most games on in the background. There, but not my main focus. The majority of our performances are incredibly boring to watch & humiliating a lot of the time too.
     
    Mount hasn't travelled anyway due to his head injury precaution so Bruno it is.

    Is there a part of his body that hasn't been injured at this point? And at what point do we start talking about him as one of our worst ever signings? :lol:
     
    I'm going to be cautiously optimistic here and predict a 3-1 win for Porto with ten Hag then getting the sack Friday morning.
     
    The joys of being outsiders to win this game. Back in fergies day we was fav to win pretty much every game no matter the opponent.
     
    I'm going to be cautiously optimistic here and predict a 3-1 win for Porto with ten Hag then getting the sack Friday morning.
    He won’t be sacked before Villa. Lose tomorrow and on Sunday and he’s probably sacked Monday morning. Then it’s time to plan during the international break.
     
    He won’t be sacked before Villa. Lose tomorrow and on Sunday and he’s probably sacked Monday morning. Then it’s time to plan during the international break.

    If I recall correctly they had a chance to sack OGS when an international break happened but refused to do it.
     

    [A Bola Portugal, Interview] Dalot : "We have to face FC Porto as if it were a final"​




    So he had approached the Spurs game as a friendly??
     
    If I recall correctly they had a chance to sack OGS when an international break happened but refused to do it.
    If I recall correctly, that wasn’t INEOS. These surely won’t accept mediocre. There was obviously a plan in place when they decided to bring in 2 coaches who have managed before. Incase they have to make a change
     
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    This badge looks like a green headed horse soaking in a hot tub over a blue basketball. With that said, they score first, but we come roaring back to fluke a 1-2 win.
     
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Score Predictions

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  • Man Utd win
  • FC Porto win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 16% FC Porto 2:0 Man Utd
  • 12% FC Porto 2:1 Man Utd
  • 12% FC Porto 1:2 Man Utd
  • 11% FC Porto 3:1 Man Utd
  • 10% FC Porto 1:1 Man Utd
  • 8% FC Porto 3:0 Man Utd
  • 7% FC Porto 0:2 Man Utd
  • 3% FC Porto 4:0 Man Utd
  • 3% FC Porto 0:3 Man Utd
  • 3% FC Porto 1:0 Man Utd
  • 2% FC Porto 0:1 Man Utd
  • 2% FC Porto 3:2 Man Utd
  • 2% FC Porto 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% FC Porto 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% FC Porto 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% FC Porto 1:3 Man Utd
  • 1% FC Porto 9:0 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 4:2 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 6:1 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 1:4 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 7:2 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 0:4 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% FC Porto 0:9 Man Utd
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