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Aston Villa 0:0 Manchester United

Villa Park

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Sun, 6 October 2024 @ 2:00pm BST
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Finished

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  • Bastian said:
    That period of high pressing was when Mount was fit and leading the line in tandem with Bruno. It was effectively the tactics deployed against City in the final. And it was likely used because Zirkzee was not match fit and hardly trained with the team and Rasmus was injured.

    It's a big call by Erik to drop both the centre backs and go without defensive cover in midfield. Would have loved for Mount to be fit for the match.
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    In the other games where Zirkzee started, our pressing was effective—perhaps not at Mount's level, but it was decent. However, against Tottenham, we surrendered control and hardly pressed them at all. Based on today's lineup, it seems like thats the plan again.

    I somehow don't feel starting Garnacho is a good idea. Especially not with that front three. If you want Garnacho and Rashford both in the lineup, Zirkzee is better suited. Love to be proven wrong though.
     
    VP89 said:
    I'm not sure what you're arguing here but going back to what my point is - Ugarte has been consistently below par since he joined, he needs to settle and I don't find the decision to bench him out against a tricky away team remotely contravertial.
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    That picking under performing players that have been here for yours is not a better solution than picking new players that are trying to fit in and need to play to do that.
     
    Grand Vizier said:
    This argument is so ridiculous. Bayern are five times better than us. Their rejects are twice as good as any player we have. Not good enough for an elite club does not mean they're not good enough for us. We are not an elite top club anymore, we have to build our way up and there is a reason we can't attract the best players in the world.
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    So what's your explanation for Eric Dier moving to Bayern Munich and becoming a starter for them?

    This is an incredibly flawed thought process. Bayern being a better team than us doesn't mean they don't have players that wouldn't be good enough to start for us, and vice versa.
     
    The last time ai thought Ten Hag was crazy for starting Evans, we actually won. So I'll reserve judgment until I see how we perform.

    Looks like we're set to defend deep and transition quickly to attack. Could be a high scoring game.

    If this doesn't work he'll be sacked within 2 days. Anything less than a convincing win won't save him at this point surely.
     
    Everytime we leave Amad on the bench, we have a horrible game....just an observation. Not that we have fantastic games otherwise, but somehow I feel he makes a difference on the right side.
     
    Rojofiam said:
    So what's your explanation for Eric Dier moving to Bayern Munich and becoming a starter for them?

    This is an incredibly flawed thought process. Bayern being a better team than us doesn't mean they don't have players that wouldn't be good enough to start for us, and vice versa.
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    Blaming player quality has went too far. There’s managers all around the league walking into teams and getting results out of far worse players than we have.
     
    Ollie Derbyshire said:
    That picking under performing players that have been here for yours is not a better solution than picking new players that are trying to fit in and need to play to do that.
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    Playing a midfielder uncomfortable with the pace of the league is a worse solution for me. Eriksen has had a good season despite that one mistake he made, Bruno has been poor yes.

    If I'm playing Ugarte I'm playing Casemiro with him. I feel like he needs a fellow DM to help him out and get his bearings right.
     
    MZX7 said:
    Everytime we leave Amad on the bench, we have a horrible game....just an observation. Not that we have fantastic games otherwise, but somehow I feel he makes a difference on the right side.
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    I kind of see why he was dropped as he wasn't very involved against Porto but I feel like we didn't get the ball to him enough.

    But in terms of team shape it helps having Amad there.
     
    100 said:
    Blaming player quality has went too far. There’s managers all around the league walking into teams and getting results out of far worse players than we have.
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    Exactly we have a squad full of good players, we have a manager who is awful.
     
    I've convinced myself that this is Ten Hag's last game, so win or lose I'm going to enjoy it.
     
    Just saw lineup. Can't even complain about Evans and Maguire starting after Martinez and De Ligt put in 2 of the worst defensive performances I've ever seen against Porto. Fully expecting us to lose
     
    The result will be whatever will bring with it the most drama and squabbling amongst fans, because nothing is straightforward with us. 3-0 Maguire hattrick
     
    fecking hell the whole gang is there too. Jim, Dave, Omar... Definitely the last game for him.
     
    14th place as it stands with 6 woeful teams below us who have combined to win 2 games between them so far.

    At least these days we don't just have to watch Fergie looking sad or Woodward looking hapless.
    We get to see the 5 or 6 board guys looking on.
     
    Rojofiam said:
    So what's your explanation for Eric Dier moving to Bayern Munich and becoming a starter for them?

    This is an incredibly flawed thought process. Bayern being a better team than us doesn't mean they don't have players that wouldn't be good enough to start for us, and vice versa.
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    He was a free transfer, Bayern needed a LCB and he played well for them? It is not very complicated.

    Every Bayern starter is good enough for us, yes.
     
    MZX7 said:
    Everytime we leave Amad on the bench, we have a horrible game....just an observation. Not that we have fantastic games otherwise, but somehow I feel he makes a difference on the right side.
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    Yep. He's at least clever with the ball even if he isn't creating an awful lot. Having two headless chickens on the pitch together in Rashford and Garnacho seems like a bad idea.
     
    CodeRed said:
    Good advice from a very old person, never use the word hate especially on a person. Something I learned many decades ago. However I do feel your passion and I fully understand you.

    It's only a game at the end of the day and I'm in a confused state like the the rest of us here. There is light at the end of the tunnel and just try to enjoy the game mate and try to ignore the manager on this match. It's the players who have the final say today I feel.
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    It's sports hate, not real hate. It's not like I am wishing anything bad to happen to him (other than being sacked).
     
    That looks like a lineup that will concede a lot of chances. The two center backs can't complain too much about being dropped since they were shocking the other night, but it doesn't say much about Ten Hag's signings if they're both dropped.

    That also just means he's essentially abandoned his system, unless he's going to forcing I'll suited players into it.
     
    VP89 said:
    I'm not sure what you're arguing here but going back to what my point is - Ugarte has been consistently below par since he joined, he needs to settle and I don't find the decision to bench him out against a tricky away team remotely contravertial.
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    He was below par a PSG, and had been dropped, after a promising start. I'll bet PSG laughed all the way to the bank when we said we wanted him
     
    kouroux said:
    This game is basically "Can a loss be a win?".
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    Exactly.

    I think we're actually looking out for our clubs best interests by hoping for a loss here.

    Ineos haven't impressed me thus far to tell you the truth as this guy should've been sacked ages ago.
    He should've been sacked long before his FA Cup win and now we have to listen to arrogant cnut big up the win in every 2nd interview.
     
    We played the same midfield 3 vs Villa on Boxing Day last season and we won. It was a chaotic win, and if we win today, it will likely be the same result. It's the CB pairing that worries me. I'm predicting a 4-2 Villa win.
     
    VP89 said:
    Playing a midfielder uncomfortable with the pace of the league is a worse solution for me. Eriksen has had a good season despite that one mistake he made, Bruno has been poor yes.

    If I'm playing Ugarte I'm playing Casemiro with him. I feel like he needs a fellow DM to help him out and get his bearings right.
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    Then we can agree to disagree then, I don’t think Eriksen, Casemiro or Bruno are up to the pace of the league anymore.

    If I was mangas I’d play Ugarte, Mainoo is not going to be able protect that back four.
     
    Just seen the lineup..

    1 of the summer signings in the starting XI

    Mainoo is gonna get wrecked with Bruno and Eriksen supporting him
     
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