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2024-25 Performances

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Beginning to wonder if he'll play at all this season. His days as a left back or wing back should be through with his injury record, but i'm still holding the faintest hope that he might perform well as a LCB.
 
good option to have when ever he is available. No team would touch him with a 10 foot pole unless its a pay as you play deal. Yet another player who will retire as soon as his deal with united runs out
 
Guy needs to leave, I don’t know how long he’s got left on his contract but it’s another Phil Jones situation.
 
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Due to managerial changes, it seems as though his position has changed about 3 times since he’s been injured. He left as a LB, then somewhere along the line he’s become a CB and LWB. If he ever actually comes back, feck knows what he’ll even be returning as.

Rodri is back in training now, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we see him back on the pitch before Shaw.
 
Shaw makes a case as to why all player deals in professional football should be pay as you play or triggered only after a certain threshold number of games.

Shaw’s wage is ridiculous when you consider the cuts United are making to food portion sizes in the canteen.
 
DRJosh said:
Shaw makes a case as to why all player deals in professional football should be pay as you play or triggered only after a certain threshold number of games.

Shaw’s wage is ridiculous when you consider the cuts United are making to food portion sizes in the canteen.
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They do more than just play matches, of course they need a guaranteed wage as opposed to only being paid when they play. Should backup keepers not receive payment? They hardly play games so how would pay as you play work for them? The coach decides to drop you for a few weeks, you don't get paid anymore despite training every day and undertaking all other clubs commitments?

I'd understand more if you said there should be clauses that reduce wages if you miss a certain amount of games through injury but expecting players to only be paid for their playing time would be crazy.

I know it's frustrating and they earn stupid money but injuries are not a choice and these players are still human beings and employees of the club, some of these ideas and suggestions act as though they are just objects.

Besides, I am pretty sure clubs have insurance cover for injured players wages.
 
Do we have definitive proof of life for this guy?

Honestly, the only types of injuries that should be resulting in an absence this long are snapped legs and tendon tears.

What the hell kind of injury does he even have? Have the club just shut him down for the season without officially saying so?
 
Todd said:
Do we have definitive proof of life for this guy?

Honestly, the only types of injuries that should be resulting in an absence this long are snapped legs and tendon tears.

What the hell kind of injury does he even have? Have the club just shut him down for the season without officially saying so?
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My guess would be he's done and finally gone this summer. He won't get anywhere near Amorims plans this close to the end of the season. Another one who's missed close to 300 games for us, let that sink in. Another one that outstayed his welcome. Mason Mount step on up and take the reigns.

EDIT - Just looked, he's missed 330+
EDIT - Just looked again, £200k until 2027. Jesus christ.
 
He's played about an hour of football for Utd in the last 12 months.

Just a total shambles. Giving him that new contract was so stupid. He'll do a Phil Jones, stay here until his contract ends then retire.
 
klayton88 said:
My guess would be he's done and finally gone this summer. He won't get anywhere near Amorims plans this close to the end of the season. Another one who's missed close to 300 games for us, let that sink in. Another one that outstayed his welcome. Mason Mount step on up and take the reigns.

EDIT - Just looked, he's missed 330+
EDIT - Just looked again, £200k until 2027. Jesus christ.
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See him returning in late season dead rubber, come up with a key pass and a corner that ends up headed straight into the keepers hands and people will be back talking about world class and how we might be better off than we thought with him back in the team next year.
 
I sometimes feel sorry for him in a sense that the horror leg break probably caused a lot of these other issues. I remember seeing a recent photo of his leg and it looked so messed up still.

But then I think about him rushing back to play for England, something that I’m sure was a poor idea from the clubs point of view, and I can’t help but think he’s got to be part of the problem himself.
 
Todd said:
Do we have definitive proof of life for this guy?

Honestly, the only types of injuries that should be resulting in an absence this long are snapped legs and tendon tears.

What the hell kind of injury does he even have? Have the club just shut him down for the season without officially saying so?
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Jesus christ, I hope I don't see you as one of my patients
 
Todd said:
Do we have definitive proof of life for this guy?

Honestly, the only types of injuries that should be resulting in an absence this long are snapped legs and tendon tears.

What the hell kind of injury does he even have? Have the club just shut him down for the season without officially saying so?
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I could be wrong but as far as I'm aware it's muscle injuries that have stopped him playing for basically a year. Not sure how that's even possible. No broken bones or ligament damage/tears
 
pocco said:
I sometimes feel sorry for him in a sense that the horror leg break probably caused a lot of these other issues. I remember seeing a recent photo of his leg and it looked so messed up still.

But then I think about him rushing back to play for England, something that I’m sure was a poor idea from the clubs point of view, and I can’t help but think he’s got to be part of the problem himself.
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He surely is part of the problem, and offers no solution at all.

The problem being that he doesnt give a sh*t about the club.

He looks like he is on benefits, and wont leave social security (mu version) until 2027.
 
cirilus said:
He surely is part of the problem, and offers no solution at all.

The problem being that he doesnt give a sh*t about the club.

He looks like he is on benefits, and wont leave social security (mu version) until 2027.
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Yeah I got the sense of sudden urgency to get fit for England in the Euros. He was still injured when selected and rushed back for their Semi Final game. What the feck were the club thinking about all this? It was a complete joke and didn’t seem to adhere to any sort of recovery plan. But where has this determination been for us? He has to be part of the problem.

I do have some sympathy for the fact he’s injured so much, but that’s about it. If I was as talented as he is I’d be absolutely gutted how it’s gone. I don’t know, maybe he is. But the money should be a byproduct of playing for us, I’d have been hoping to make my name as a United great, an all time LB if I were in his shoes. So I’d be absolutely gutted that the opportunity was taken away. I’m sceptical whether he thinks like this. I think he’s probably more gutted he’s not played for England more.
 
He's been out so long, I don't see yet another comeback happening. His fitness and physical intensity will be so far behind, and the amount of injuries he's had might mean he'll not get back up to full speed again.

He absolutely cannot be a wingback anymore, and although we need an alternative to Martinez on the left, I don't think he's up for it physically.

It's been really unfortunate circumstance for him, all stemming from that broken leg.
 
He was injury prone from the minute we signed him.
The leg break was terrible but even without that, he's just one of those players that's constantly injured.

I remember thinking we got absolutely robbed during his first season with us.

I also think him rushing back to play injured for England and completely crocking himself In the process almost warrants contract cancellation.
 
GMoore23 said:
He was injury prone from the minute we signed him.
The leg break was terrible but even without that, he's just one of those players that's constantly injured.

I remember thinking we got absolutely robbed during his first season with us.

I also think him rushing back to play injured for England and completely crocking himself In the process almost warrants contract cancellation.
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Was he injury prone before that horrific leg break? My memory might be playing tricks on me but I thought he was quite reliable before?
 
What’s the odds on him picking up another injury before he actually returns?
 
Devil_forever said:
Was he injury prone before that horrific leg break? My memory might be playing tricks on me but I thought he was quite reliable before?
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Yes, he was completely injury prone even in his first season for us and seemed like a disaster of a transfer at the time considering the fee.
 
People go on about how he still needs paid etc but it really is a disgrace. From the point of view that the club are struggling financially I'd like to see people like him who do not contribute to the cause act upon it. imagine how much he'd endear himself by a gesture of goodwill, which he could easily afford.
 
GMoore23 said:
Yes, he was completely injury prone even in his first season for us and seemed like a disaster of a transfer at the time considering the fee.
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He's played 1.5 seasons of full first-team football by the time he was 18. There are pretty much no teenagers that wouldn't have to pause after that.
 
Lemoor said:
He's played 1.5 seasons of full first-team football by the time he was 18. There are pretty much no teenagers that wouldn't have to pause after that.
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He didn't pause, he was injured for over 3 months of the season. Something that would continue throughout his whole career for us.
 
GMoore23 said:
He didn't pause, he was injured for over 3 months of the season. Something that would continue throughout his whole career for us.
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This is what happens to nearly every youngster that is immidiately put in the first team for a season or more. Most of them get over it in their 20s, but most of them don't come close to leg amputation before that.
 
If we can give him away for free this summer we have to do it. No PSR implications, and nobody will pay for him at this point I'm sure.

Perhaps he'd be able to stay fit a little more in a slower league.
 
Sad to say but he's completely irrelevant in this setup as well even if he does get back fit really. No chance that a player with his injury history approaching 30 will be able to play at LWB, so he can only play LCB which is arguably the position Utd look most covered.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Sad to say but he's completely irrelevant in this setup as well even if he does get back fit really. No chance that a player with his injury history approaching 30 will be able to play at LWB, so he can only play LCB which is arguably the position Utd look most covered.
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A fit Luke Shaw is the best LCB at the club and it's not even close, has the physical aspects that Martinez doesn't.
 
pocco said:
Yeah I got the sense of sudden urgency to get fit for England in the Euros. He was still injured when selected and rushed back for their Semi Final game. What the feck were the club thinking about all this? It was a complete joke and didn’t seem to adhere to any sort of recovery plan. But where has this determination been for us? He has to be part of the problem.

I do have some sympathy for the fact he’s injured so much, but that’s about it. If I was as talented as he is I’d be absolutely gutted how it’s gone. I don’t know, maybe he is. But the money should be a byproduct of playing for us, I’d have been hoping to make my name as a United great, an all time LB if I were in his shoes. So I’d be absolutely gutted that the opportunity was taken away. I’m sceptical whether he thinks like this. I think he’s probably more gutted he’s not played for England more.
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Based on what exactly? The guy looked distraught when he last got injured.

GL21 said:
People go on about how he still needs paid etc but it really is a disgrace. From the point of view that the club are struggling financially I'd like to see people like him who do not contribute to the cause act upon it. imagine how much he'd endear himself by a gesture of goodwill, which he could easily afford.
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What exactly are you suggesting he does? Are you another fan wanting him to donate money to the multi-billionaire Glazers?
Also, doesn't sound like you're capable of goodwill.
 
Chicharito_ said:
A fit Luke Shaw is the best LCB at the club and it's not even close, has the physical aspects that Martinez doesn't.
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But Heaven looks promising and Yoro has said it's his most comfortable position. United need to find long-term solutions to positions and they have at least one if not two potentially very good prospects at LCB that he'd impede.
 
Chicharito_ said:
A fit Luke Shaw is the best LCB at the club and it's not even close, has the physical aspects that Martinez doesn't.
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Well he's never fit for more than a few weeks at a time so we never can build around him at this stage.

Pity but it's time to go
 
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