I would say this happened a month after the tent massacre or maybe 3 months ago after murdering the WCK workers. Really, take your pick from any massacre Israel has committed going back to Al Ahli Hospital explosion.I have a feeling this is slowly moving away from the spotlight. The normalization of the genocide is setting in.
I have a feeling this is slowly moving away from the spotlight. The normalization of the genocide is setting in.
ryan grim's quote says " which has not been seen before in the history of humanity, in which they brought in trained dogs and made these dogs carry out vile actions against the detainees "Tweet
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I’m not really opposed to this at this stage, with certain caveats of course.* The sooner the Palestinians and the “international community” abandon the delusion that Oslo remains a relevant framework through which to pursue “peace”, the sooner the Palestinians will have a real chance at shaking off their corrupt and authoritarian representatives and perhaps begin to conceptualize their struggle in terms other than a narrow ethnic nationalism. In other words, and in very simple terms, opt for an approach more akin to the South Africa model rather than the Algeria model. That is, assuming they survive and emerge from this war still comprising a coherent national community within all Israeli-controlled territories.https://www.theguardian.com/world/a...upied-west-bank-to-pro-settler-civil-servants
The Israeli military has quietly handed over significant legal powers in the occupied West Bank to pro-settler civil servants working for the far-right minister Bezalel Smotrich.
The laws cover everything from building regulations to the administration of agriculture, forestry, parks and bathing locations. Lawyers have long warned that transferring them from military to political control would risk bringing Israel into conflict with its responsibilities under international law. After entering government, Smotrich moved quickly to approve thousands of new settlement homes, legalise previously unauthorised wildcat outposts, and make it more difficult for Palestinians to build homes and move around.
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"Israel cannot allow the Hezbollah terror organization to continue attacking its territory and citizens, and soon we will make the necessary decisions. The free world must unconditionally stand with Israel in its war against the axis of evil led by Iran and extremist Islam. Our war is also your war, and Nasrallah's threat to Cyprus is just the beginning. Evil must be defeated, as history has proven in the past."
- Foreign Minister
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Israel says 14,000 of the estimated 30,000 to 40,000 fighters Hamas had before the war are now dead, while Hamas insists it has lost only 6,000 to 8,000 fighters. U.S. intelligence sources indicate the real number of Hamas dead is around 10,000.
A top U.S. State Department official who served as the deputy assistant secretary for Israeli-Palestinian Affairs resigned from President Joe Biden's administration this week.The Washington Post noted that Andrew Miller was a "skeptic" of Biden's support for Israel and favored "a sharper break" with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the war in Gaza.
Do you really think permanent dominion is impossible? Incrementally making life more and more miserable, reducing the size and connectivity of the bantustans? Smotrich believes what he's doing is legally stealthy enough, and of course the US government, Dem or GOP, will accept that. And they're the only one that matter.I’m not really opposed to this at this stage, with certain caveats of course.* The sooner the Palestinians and the “international community” abandon the delusion that Oslo remains a relevant framework through which to pursue “peace”, the sooner the Palestinians will have a real chance at shaking off their corrupt and authoritarian representatives and perhaps begin to conceptualize their struggle in terms other than a narrow ethnic nationalism. In other words, and in very simple terms, opt for an approach more akin to the South Africa model rather than the Algeria model. That is, assuming they survive and emerge from this war still comprising a coherent national community within all Israeli-controlled territories.
*(the major one being the assumption that, whatever Smotrich’s hopes for somehow engineering the ‘transfer’ of the West Bank Palestinians - most likely by provoking a full-scale intifada - international pressure will ensure the the continued existence of the Palestinian West Bank).
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“Dominion” in one form or another has been the reality since 1967, but I’d hesitate to label any potential arrangement in the West Bank and/or Gaza as “permanent”, there is too much that can shift and change over time, including the American position. And there’s an argument to be made that handing over policy in the West Bank to extremists and idiots like Smotrich carries more potential for awakening certain forces to the reality of dominion and unsettling the “status quo” mindset than another thirty years of Oslo prevarication. Assuming, like I said, the “international community” doesn't actually acquiesce in the expulsion of the West Bank Palestinians.Do you really think permanent dominion is impossible? Incrementally making life more and more miserable, reducing the size and connectivity of the bantustans? Smotrich believes what he's doing is legally stealthy enough, and of course the US government, Dem or GOP, will accept that. And they're the only one that matter.
You may be right, but I think the Palestinians still have a card left to play, namely the pluralistic, civil rights based approach. They may not be able to bring themselves to even try it, for totally understandable reasons that are more valid since October than ever before. But it still offers a potential path to some form of co-existence in the long-term rather than the more apocalyptic scenarios that I’d associate in my mind with a regional war.I genuinely believe that Palestine's fate is in the hands of Hezbollah and the potential Iranian nuke. Unless they get a very bloody nose now, they will never look at alternatives to permanent expansion.
Disgusting. But not surprised by their actions. They are not normal.Tweet
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It's institutional racism in all its glory.It has been normalized for a while now. We are at a point where there are massacres in almost daily basis, indiscriminate shootings of innocent people, we have irrefutable evidence of famine (I've seen multiple pictures of children that either remind me of Jewish children in concentration camps or vulnerable children in certain parts of Africa), real videos of beheaded children and nothing is done. The dehumanization is in full effect. Some massacres aren't even reported anymore.
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I just cannot see how that is possible. Just a brief look at the array of forces on both sides in the US.there is too much that can shift and change over time, including the American position.
I get the feeling that you may be consuming so much of this “Israel and the culture wars” stuff online that it seems all-encompassing and defining. Even with that, however, rather than the absolute and permanent consolidation of “Zionist hegemony” or however you want to term it, one might instead see current moves to clamp down on anti-Israel dissent as the panicked product of a very real sense that the wheels are beginning to come off, or at least loosen, in American support for Israel.I just cannot see how that is possible. Just a brief look at the array of forces on both sides in the US.
On one side you have a section of young activists and about a fifth or sixth of the Democrat base that dislikes Israel and is willing prioritise that dislike. There is also a growing anti-Israel Nazi movement on the fringes of the GOP (Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens) which has some grassroots support.
On the other side, you have: a supermajority of both parties at both the national and state level, the permanent bureaucracy, intelligence agencies, and military ("deep state"), the most influential Silicon Valley companies, including liberal-coded Google and conservative-coded Palintir, that have deep Israel collaborations including with the IDF, politically active donors, the entirety of the mainstream media, the vast majority of arts funders and universities donors, mainstream Jewish groups, and the organised evangelical movement.
It's as close to a hegemony as possible, and has been for many decades. Yes, sure, some of these can change. If I had to guess, parts of the deep state could switch in exasperation if Israel continues like this. But that still leaves total political, corporate, religious, "high society", and a lot of grassroots support. And the current establishment is future-proofing Israel - I posted yesterday about how Pennsylvania is outlawing BDS and so making protest repression compulsory for colleges. Anti-BDS state-level laws are generally quite common. And with the IHRA definition adopted, it is likely that teaching and talking about this conflict in university courses - which is where those young activists are being produced - will be censored.
I really don't see how you can square what happened at Columbia with any future reduction in support by the US. Every single vector of power was speaking in one voice - police and university, Democrat and Republican, mayor and president, donors and media.
If everything goes right, and it's miniscule chances, in 10 years there could be president AOC with both chambers of Congress under Dems, and a disillusioned CIA/Pentagon top brass, unable to deal with an even more crazed Israeli PM and public, cutting off funding and diplomatic support. But I think there will always be more than enough AIPAC Democrats to sabotage any moves she might make, and AOC herself is much more careful and careerist than she appears.
It’s certainly bizarre to have seen Western leftists fantasizing about an Algerian “solution” in Palestine (witnessed this on my campus) while the IDF are laying waste to Gaza. But I think I understand where the optimism comes from in the Palestinian case, even if I don’t share it. More broadly speaking, as a historian I tend to assume that change - grounded in theory but ultimately always the product of a multitude of mostly unforeseen contingencies - is inevitable, one way or another.Maybe it's because I was born in the 90s and only have followed this since the mid or late-00s, but I've never understood the optimism of the Palestinians, or the non-Palestinian peace process people, or now the western one-staters. They all have a belief that this nuclear-armed state is going to collapse or yield...maybe it's religion, or maybe one had to live through the fall of the USSR to believe in that?
The demented Israel supporters have largely been removed, the more reasonable Israeli members understandably come and go and seem to mostly express disapproval of Israel's actions. And the US state department propogandists mostly ignore the thread or pop in evertime a new pier is built or when they can spuriously tie Russia and China to some blame.Is anyone on this thread still defending Israel? I know some were a few months ago, where are they?
I saw it too. The level of brazenness is astonishing.feck I just saw the video of a guy being strapped to what looked like an MRAP and driven away.
that’s a literal banned torture technique, there in plain sight for the world to see. Makes you wonder what they’re doing behind closed doors
I try avoid following the crimes being committed as it depresses me so much. I saw this on the BBC site and it turned my stomach. So much utter cruelty is so inhuman. There will be a generation of Palestinians that will be damaged for life and seeking revenge. Lose lose sadly.feck I just saw the video of a guy being strapped to what looked like an MRAP and driven away.
that’s a literal banned torture technique, there in plain sight for the world to see. Makes you wonder what they’re doing behind closed doors
There have been recent reports of what they have been doing with prisoners, torture is normalised and allowed for the occupation.Makes you wonder what they’re doing behind closed doors
feck I just saw the video of a guy being strapped to what looked like an MRAP and driven away.
that’s a literal banned torture technique, there in plain sight for the world to see. Makes you wonder what they’re doing behind closed doors
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And it seems that we had been stuck to the 30k since christmas. I dont see it mentioned anywherewith th new numbers (almost 40k without counting the disappeared). Only if you check specifically in a 24 hours frame in google and the outlets that shows are 90% arab newspapers. Some of them i never heard bc im not familiar with arab outlets (might be very well known). CNN is the first of the western news and doesnt even mention the total on the headlinesYou know when 100 Palestinian dies in the last 24 hours that Israel succeeded in normalising the genocide in Gaza. People barley mention them, they are just a number. They played the long game and they knew eventually it will be normal, specially if they have their Western allies on their sides. Sad times for humanity.
I do not want to hear one human rights lecture from a western government in the future specifically the countries that helped Israel with their slaughter.