I genuinely can't understand how some of you come up with this. Yes DDG did make mistakes but this bad? I've really never seen him this bad, in situation where week in week out I think that is a saveable goal, with Onana it seems the case much more often.
Onana has not worked out. We need a new keeper.
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Said it in the matchday thread, but I’ll say it again. I think the first thing the new boss does is offer De Gea a 1 year contract.
De Gea was regressing to this level of bad since 2018. He was pathetic in the fa cup final and at fault for all the goals. Not to mention all the pounts he dropped that cost us top 4 at least once or twice.
He's just not very good at all. Prone to mistakes, bizarre technique. Should have kept DDG for this season and invested the 50 million somewhere else. Onana will never ever be a dependable goalkeeper, another expensive mistake.
I think we should move on to be honest. He was rapidly declining in form and I'd rather we remember him fondly than bring him in to be completely past his prime.
Scour Europe for a no nonsense veteran keeper. I'd make a cheeky bid for Ter Stegen considering Barcelonas liquidity issues.
Amazing how many goalkeepers look just as competent as onana without costing 10 million let alone 40, this period of spending under ten hag has set us back massively.
City bloody back up keeper looks better than onana
City bloody back up keeper looks better than onana
Just watching the highlights back again....get him out the club as soon as possible. His positioning is actually insane.
Then you didnt watch his last 4 seasons. Every weak shot towards him I had my heart in my mouth because he couldnt be trusted to make the simplest of saves on a regular basis. His consistancy and concentration were a 1/10
I was sick of De Gea as well by the end of last season, but Onana is even worse. A one year deal gives the new boss chance to push the issue down the road a bit, as I doubt he’s able to come straight in and fire Onana. Unless of course like you say there’s another decent keeper available. But there happens to be one twiddling his thumbs in Altringham!
I haven't missed more that 5 games a season for the last 20 years, and if DDG made you have your heart in your mouth, not sure how you manage watching Onana.
Natural is the perfect word. He doesn't look comfortable as a keeper, the way he makes saves, foot work etc., almost plays like an outfield player who has had to go in goal because the actual goalie has been sent off.
Yes yes, he cost us a game in which we couldn't create a chance, we all know that. Takes like this in which blind hatred and being unable to recognize being wrong deserve crap like watching Onana pretend to be a GK.
Why do people always think the solution to a poor signing is to bring back the poor player they replaced?
How on earth is the post you quoted a take of blind hatred?
The worst part of the DDG vs Onana debate is that everyone is missing the point. It's not about "the shiniest of two turds". They are both bad. But one of them would have cost us only his wages for a year. The other one costs 50mln + his wages.
That's where Onana shines. Because of his price tag we weren't able to also buy Amrabat. So that's a bullet dodged.
That's where Onana shines. Because of his price tag we weren't able to also buy Amrabat. So that's a bullet dodged.
Like I said, hes the same. But with better distribution
How else can you describe that? Pathetic in the FA cup final in a game we were outplayed like some U18s team, conceded a wonder volley goal and a soft goal that Onana concedes regularly but is being constantly excused on here? Never mind the "cost us top 4".
You are literally posting in a thread full of people doing the exact opposite of excusing Onana's goalkeeping. This weird notion that De Gea was still playing at his peak and a absolute goalkeeping machine when we finally moved him on is so typically nonsensical.
De Gea was practically chucking them in by the end. Onana continuing that trend doesn't mean bringing back De Gea is the answer.
I haven't seen anyone talking about how DDG was still in his prime or ideal. People are just frustrated that while not being our biggest priority last summer, we managed to spend 50m on a new GK and downgrade to a worse GK. You obviously struggle to admit that, and that's where we disagree.
de Gea won the golden glove in his last season with us, with this same defence in front of him.
Got hammerd on here Start of season saying keep DDG ..Onana was not needed. Some guy threw this stat that stat about the both.. but I'm betting DDG would have saved a fair few more goal bound shots than Onana.. ie Bournmouth first goal ..DDG saves that all day long.. and Palace first goal saves that as well..
He certainly didn't have the defensive lines we've fielded this season in front of him.
We had so many defensive lines this season.. surely one matches with the defensive line that DDG had in front of him last season
We'd probably have done better with De Gea this season, but was it worth signing him to another big deal spending big money on a keeper clearly on the decline, and whose style is far from ideal for a club attempting to move forward with its play.
West Ham away, Chelsea in the semi final of the cup, City both goals in the final, Brentford away I'm sure I've missed more and Onana is shit as well, I don't hate either of these I just want someone better in the net at United
De Gea had Varane and Martinez in front of him who have both been out injured most of this season and have barely played a game together.
Let's bring back De Gea. The one who no club is interested in. I love how we are thinking of progressing forward by going backward to a keeper who is so damaged nobody is even willing to take a punt on, even if for the prestige of having a former Manchester United player and the former United keeper watch that goes with it. I'll have what you De Gea stans are smoking. I'll rather have a rubbish Onana struggling in his first year with a depleted defence in goal than a De Gea who helped us to a clean sheet last year but was still by general consensus one of the worst players in the team. I'll rather have a keeper who is struggling early on much like De Gea once was and continue to grow than another year of De Gea, as if the last 10 years hasn't said enough. Only a mad man repeats the same action and expects a different result. We aren't all mad. We face more shots per match than relegated Sheffield but Onana is the problem. We should be relegation property by now by that standards but we aren't. We are consistently set up to punish the keeper.
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Lets not forget a functional Casemiro too
Yes, he was terrible.
He couldn't do because he is always too late to do anything about it. His anticipation is real bad. And he doesn't bother trying on some shots. Lot of those shots are saveable.
For like 10 games*.
We agree on that, I want a better GK than Onana too.
Unless Onana improve by 100% next season. He's as good as having a bad keeper who'll cost us points.
Teams are taking shots because they know it's high percentage. As bad as DDG was his shot stopping is always first class.
Money aside we wont be challenging top 4 with the current version of Onana.
And before people say better defensive line, his error is basic error he even dive before the ball being shot.
Teams are taking shots because they know it's high percentage. As bad as DDG was his shot stopping is always first class.
Money aside we wont be challenging top 4 with the current version of Onana.
And before people say better defensive line, his error is basic error he even dive before the ball being shot.
I never thought it was a good idea. To me it was always this summer to spend 50m on a keeper not last
The money I guess was the issue with him as keeper .. there was a cheaper alternative..D Henderson .. they could have made him no 1 looked for better keeper in mean time.. somehow ETH though this Onana was the answer he's clearly not.. no need at all to waste £40 plus Million on him ...I'm pretty sure next manager gets rid ..
Heck, you’re seeing it on this forum about the manager(s) as well
Heck, you’re seeing it on this forum about the manager(s) as well
It happens with everything and has been going on for years. We're not that far removed from a few "give Ravel another shot" posts.
Aargh, those were still the good 'ol days
, compared to where we are now. Honestly, it puts everything we used to laugh at RAWK for, into perspective. The longer the lack of success continues, the greater the spiral.It’s impressive how much money we waste!
With Onana, unfortunately I think we need new players in other positions more and given our finances I’d probably keep him for one more season, unless a real bargain comes up.
With Onana, unfortunately I think we need new players in other positions more and given our finances I’d probably keep him for one more season, unless a real bargain comes up.