Pretty much this. On a podcast about Utd that I listen to mostly driven by stats analysis, the 2 guys were refusing to budge on their opinion that he was a good keeper at the beginning of the season and stood by the fact it was a non-problem, supported by the fact he had been one of the highest performing keepers in Europe (both domestically and CL), and it was highly unlikely he'd become poor overnight. Just common sense, bigger picture perspective kind of analysis, but the type that would be good for this board in general, really.
Andre Onana made another mistake. Ohnono.
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To be fair it wasn't just this board, the same lines were trotted in the media. With Ten Hag and other players having to defend Onana during interviews.
It felt so widespread that at a point I was questioning it myself if we had got a dud, even if I felt it was too early to judge.
Oh my point on short termism can be extrapolated to media no worries
Even Maguire is getting into the "playing out from the back" thing. The whole back line looked more comfortable against Everton, even under pressure. Onana is a huge factor in that. They are moving the ball around with awareness of what's in front of them. Unfortunately, with that midfield, it's not much. I think that's why Onana was hoofing the ball up to the front line a bit more - we frequently couldn't get the ball through the midfield unless Maguire or Lindelof pushed it up themselves. Yes, Mainoo did do a bit more of that, too, but usually when he was playing more as a fifth defender than as a pure midfield option.
Maguire always was a decent to good passer I think, so this isn't surprising at all. His problem is that he is too slow and/or lacks awareness to play a high line and gets exposed due to that. There is a reason why Pep wanted him at City and arguably he was bought to do exactly that - play the ball well out of the back.
I changed the title because it’s funny and because I can.
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I think Maguire has just been better at it than Varane, but obviously he's been 4th choice basically since the Brentford 4-0 that happened more than a year ago. He definitely feels more comfortable with Onana behind him instead of DDG as well.
Kees and Aaron? DITD?
His other big problem is he so slow with distribution. He takes way too many touches with the ball before actually releasing it.
That's the one!
He obviously didn't turn into a bad goalkeeper overnight, bad luck/run of form, tends to pass.
Saying that... He does have a habit of parrying back into danger which is a technique issue. If I had to rate his qualities out of 10, I'd go:
Saying that... He does have a habit of parrying back into danger which is a technique issue. If I had to rate his qualities out of 10, I'd go:
- Shot stopping - 6.5/10 - bit above average, not elite, but not poor at all
- Passing - 8/10 - doesn't have flawless passing technique but it's good
- Composure when playing out from the back - 10/10 - this is his elite trait IMO, patience and vision when he has the ball
- Cross claiming - 7/10 - not Courtois, but far better than De Gea. He's been solid when he's gone for it.
- Sweeping - 6/10 - he stays on his line a bit too much, but showed this in the past
There's a blunder right round the corner for every keeper
vs Galatasaray
DDG didn't make this many blunders.
He looks amateurish at times. I don't think he's the keeper to take us back to the top.
He should be saving that free kick.
he worries me and I can’t shake it
even that disallowed offiside goal. Looked very unconvincing
even that disallowed offiside goal. Looked very unconvincing
He does seem absolutely useless in one on ones. Carried on from (late stage) De Gea on that one.
if todays performance is finding form i would hate to see him on a bad day!!!
He did.
Let's be honest, he's been pretty average last few weeks. He's just been perceived as better as he hasn't dropped any clangers. Not for me, Clive.
Sorry but De Gea was always a great keeper it was his distribution that let him down not his keeping.
Apart from being hopeless at dealing with crosses, commanding his area, letting in multiple howlers, and never saving a penalty, yeah for sure
It’s pretty obvious his technique is fundamentally flawed. He will occassionally pull off close-range reflex saves because that’s actually the easy part that doesn’t involve much technique. But he’ll always look dodgy on shots that require thinking and technique.
On the free kick, I’m almost certain that attacking players aren’t allowed to join the wall.
He has so many cock up's in him but the strange thing so many of them are just odd. Like not just the usual down a bit slow or letting one through him, it's these unorthodox moments of oddness. Like overcomitting way too soon for that goal early in the season. Just the sort of thing you don't often see keepers do.
I don't know, I've been consistent that I haven't been convinced by him. Something I've noticed that doesn't really seem picked up on is even a lot of his saves come off him at odd angles. He's been getting away with it more often than not but it's just another aspect that really leaves me concerned as it can easily be back in to the danger area too.
I don't know, I've been consistent that I haven't been convinced by him. Something I've noticed that doesn't really seem picked up on is even a lot of his saves come off him at odd angles. He's been getting away with it more often than not but it's just another aspect that really leaves me concerned as it can easily be back in to the danger area too.
He made more.
He's been watching Xavi la pelopina turn videos. Love it.
Its his first season for us cut him some slack. Think about Schmeichel and De Gea their first seasons. They were erratic as well.
Erratic, prone to big blunders and passes straight to the opposition. He needs to sort this out. He has some amazing saves and passes in him but needs to sort out some big flaws
Bad goalkeeper.
feck sake
State of that
Martial did him dirty there, shut up.
Nah, get rid of this clown.
Champions league Onana
He's tragic.
fecking clown.
Who jinxed it with the thread name change?
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