Club Sale | It’s done!

[Bosws87]

If the biggest thing you can shout about from you home league is your club has a good ownership model, speaks volumes about the interest.

we get it there is a lot of green eyes on what the premier league has become, carry on.

 

[hellhunter]

Well, I wasn't on this forum when that takeover happened, but this isn't the point here anyway. The point is that lots and lots of people here on this forum werent't shy to offer their opinions about the owners of other clubs, and you know that.

There are also a lot of opinionated people about a potential Qatar takeover, to be fair. Feels like a lot just accepted the inevitable, that doesn't mean they welcome it

 

[united_99]

To be fair you were here about 18 months ago when we were stopping games in protest of the Glazers?

Or every season where we pay interest, they take dividends, etc.
Or when they even took dividends in covid season …
Now they are acting as if they joined the forum just a few weeks or months ago

 

[TheReligion]

To be fair you were here about 18 months ago when we were stopping games in protest of the Glazers?

There are also a lot of opinionated people about a potential Qatar takeover, to be fair. Feels like a lot just accepted the inevitable, that doesn't mean they welcome it

Or every season where we pay interest, they take dividends, etc.
Or when they even took dividends in covid season …
Now they are acting as if they joined the forum just a few weeks or months ago

correct

 

[Adebisi's Hat]

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I agree with Dove, where were Amnesty when the Saudis took over Newcstle etc etc ? I even heard that fecking Greenpeace are on growling about Sir Jim. There is great publicity mileage to being linked with Utd in any way, so i expect plenty more bluffers to come out of the woodwork to give their opinion.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...chester-united-jim-ratcliffe-glazers-26038425

For me Amnesty and Greenpeace can bugger off back to Davos with their globalist agendas.

 

[Blood Mage]

At this point I no longer care, US consortium or ME state, just give me owners who won't force our manager to sign Burnley strikers on loan or make him pick between a forward, a midfielder and a defender and instead give him all three.

 

[croadyman]

At this point I no longer care, US consortium or ME state, just give me owners who won't force our manager to sign Burnley strikers on loan or make him pick between a forward, a midfielder and a defender and instead give him all three.

I can't get on board with US consortium because of Glazer flashbacks,just cannot separate the two things in my eyes,now you have Ratcliffe getting JP Morgan involved with buying this club AGAIN

 

[Nick7]

Bloomberg article about Radcliffe was updated to say the banks prepared to back the offer with bonds and loans and are willing to cover the value of United’s debt.

 

[RORY65]

I agree with Dove, where were Amnesty when the Saudis took over Newcstle etc etc ? I even heard that fecking Greenpeace are on growling about Sir Jim. There is great publicity mileage to being linked with Utd in any way, so i expect plenty more bluffers to come out of the woodwork to give their opinion.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...chester-united-jim-ratcliffe-glazers-26038425

For me Amnesty and Greenpeace can bugger off back to Davos with their globalist agendas.

fecking hell, a takeover hasn't even happened and we've got people on here slagging off Amnesty International and Greenpeace because all that matters is that United might sign Mbappe.

 

[TheReligion]

Bloomberg article about Radcliffe was updated to say the banks prepared to back the offer with bonds and loans and are willing to cover the value of United’s debt.

Excellent

So debt will be cleared whichever owners e we end to (seems very likely)

 

[Adebisi's Hat]

fecking hell, a takeover hasn't even happened and we've got people on here slagging off Amnesty International and Greenpeace because all that matters is that United might sign Mbappe.

Mbappe can bugger off too........

 

[croadyman]

If he wants to make people feel confident about him running things then it needs an article outlining his plans for infrastructure and stadium changes. Like we have seen from Qatari's in Mike Keegan's articles

 

[JPRouve]

I agree with Dove, where were Amnesty when the Saudis took over Newcstle etc etc ? I even heard that fecking Greenpeace are on growling about Sir Jim;

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...chester-united-jim-ratcliffe-glazers-26038425

For me Amnesty and Greenpeace can bugger off back to Davos with their globalist agendas.

Amnesty International communicated about United? The only thing I see is someone having a look at their report about Qatar, they have a report about pretty much all countries and none of them sound positive because by definition Amnesty International focuses on what countries do wrong.

As an example this is the UK and here you have a good student in Sweden. One of the issue with AI reports isn't the content or AI but the fact that people try to weaponize them out of context.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

fecking hell, a takeover hasn't even happened and we've got people on here slagging off Amnesty International and Greenpeace because all that matters is that United might sign Mbappe.

Amnesty International communicated about United? The only thing I see is someone having a look at their report about Qatar, they have a report about pretty much all countries and none of them sound positive because by definition Amnesty International focuses on what countries do wrong.

As an example this is the UK and here you have a good student in Sweden. One of the issue with AI reports isn't the content or AI but the fact that people try to weaponize them out of context.

It's gonna be a very strange period.

 

[Zed 101]

Amnesty International communicated about United? The only thing I see is someone having a look at their report about Qatar, they have a report about pretty much all countries and none of them sound positive because by definition Amnesty International focuses on what countries do wrong.

As an example this is the UK and here you have a good student in Sweden. One of the issue with AI reports isn't the content or AI but the fact that people try to weaponize them out of context.

Been on sky as well as other news outlets Amnesty international, wake up call for premier league and FA fit and proper owners test etc...

 

[711]

Bloomberg article about Radcliffe was updated to say the banks prepared to back the offer with bonds and loans and are willing to cover the value of United’s debt.

Excellent
So debt will be cleared whichever owners e we end to (seems very likely)

But bonds and loans need to be repaid, so wouldn't that just be a case of rescheduling the debt rather than paying it off, or have I misunderstood?

 

[strandty]

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[mu4c_20le]

Inject it

 

[Adnan]

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[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Why exactly are we seemingly supporting the tax dodging, pro-fracking, Brexiteer?

The man pushed through Brexit and promptly moved to Monaco.

He’s just a different flavour of Cnut.

 

[Kinsella]

The club has its identity set in stone. It is one of the biggest sporting institutions in the world. Having an owner from the ME changes nothing.

It obviously changes something if so many fans feel that way.

 

[711]

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So Ineos would want extra dividends to repay 'their' debt. United would still be paying for it. Ineos want to make money, not give it away.

 

[JPRouve]

Why exactly are we seemingly supporting the tax dodging, pro-fracking, Brexiteer?

The man pushed through Brexit and promptly moved to Monaco.

He’s just a different flavour of Cnut.

Read that again and realize where you went wrong.

 

[Zed 101]

Why exactly are we seemingly supporting the tax dodging, pro-fracking, Brexiteer?

The man pushed through Brexit and promptly moved to Monaco.

He’s just a different flavour of Cnut.

They come in different flavours

 

[The Irish Connection]

Been on sky as well as other news outlets Amnesty international, wake up call for premier league and FA fit and proper owners test etc...

The more the fit and proper ownership drum gets banged the better.

 

[bond19821982]

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That's would be brilliant. Key is, the debt will be on INEOS and not on club.

 

[UnitedSofa]

At this point I no longer care, US consortium or ME state, just give me owners who won't force our manager to sign Burnley strikers on loan or make him pick between a forward, a midfielder and a defender and instead give him all three.

Lord give me strength……..

 

[TheReligion]

So Ineos would want extra dividends to repay 'their' debt. United would still be paying for it. Ineos want to make money, not give it away.

Is that what it says or are you assume?

Clearlake are in 800m of debt to fund Chelsea and look at them

 

[TheReligion]

But bonds and loans need to be repaid, so wouldn't that just be a case of rescheduling the debt rather than paying it off, or have I misunderstood?

Well it won’t be the clubs debt and will help massively with FFP for one

 

[hellhunter]

Well it won’t be the clubs debt and will help massively with FFP for one

This is true, but there's still a danger we'd end up servicing it, right?

 

[Nick7]

So Ineos would want extra dividends to repay 'their' debt. United would still be paying for it. Ineos want to make money, not give it away.

INEOS currently have north or €6b in debt I believe. Debt isn’t inherently bad for companies like these.

 

[thebelfastboy]

There is a significant and important distinction in how these bids would be financed:

Qatar will basically have the money to hand to enable the purchase which means they won't be tied to any debt/interest repayments and will be happy for a return in the long run having increased the value of the club.

SJR on the other hand is approaching JP, Sachs etc to confirm that they will finance the bid. This in effect will most likely lump absolutely incredible amounts of debt on the club that will need to be repaid.

It will be like the Glazer takeover on steroids.

 

[711]

Is that what it says or are you assume?

Clearlake are in 800m of debt to fund Chelsea and look at them

I'm fecking glad Clearlake didn't take us over if that's what you mean. They're headed for deep trouble.

 

[Nick7]

There is a significant and important distinction in how these bids would be financed:

Qatar will basically have the money to hand to enable the purchase which means they won't be tied to any debt/interest repayments and will be happy for a return in the long run having increased the value of the club.

SJR on the other hand is approaching JP, Sachs etc to confirm that they will finance the bid. This in effect will most likely lump absolutely incredible amounts of debt on the club that will need to be repaid.

It will be like the Glazer takeover on steroids.

That’s absolutely not what’s happening with Radcliffe

 

[Rozay]

I personally just don't care too much about who the owners are. Owners of football clubs have become such big topics, back in the day I barely knew who owned who. I never even really cared much about the Glazers. I know what a Glazer is and I know that I've always been told that I'm supposed to hate them, so kinda have, but not with any real conviction I must say. I can't say I've ever been massively offended at the fact that they 'take dividends' or whatever - they own the fecking football club I was never outraged at them 'taking money out of it'. Ultimately, from my own perspective of just giving a shit about the football, I've seen us spend a lot of money, I've seen us all celebrate many a transfer 'victory' over in the transfer forum, often for record fees. If asked to write a theses, I'd probably paint them badly, but in reality, I barely give a shit. I just want us to be able to have the necessary money to compete in and around the top of the game, after that - I have no interest in who owns the club if I'm being honest with myself. I'm aware that Villa currently have minted owners but I couldn't tell you who they were or the first thing about them.

 

[croadyman]

There is a significant and important distinction in how these bids would be financed:

Qatar will basically have the money to hand to enable the purchase which means they won't be tied to any debt/interest repayments and will be happy for a return in the long run having increased the value of the club.

SJR on the other hand is approaching JP, Sachs etc to confirm that they will finance the bid. This in effect will most likely lump absolutely incredible amounts of debt on the club that will need to be repaid.

It will be like the Glazer takeover on steroids.

Anything that makes us liable for a debt should be an absolute no-no after all the Glazer shite

 

[thebelfastboy]

That’s absolutely not what’s happening with Radcliffe

He's going to borrow to fund the purchase? Whether that's tied to the club (like the Glazer takeover) or to INEOS it will still need repaid, non?

 

[Nou_Camp99]

Why exactly are we seemingly supporting the tax dodging, pro-fracking, Brexiteer?

The man pushed through Brexit and promptly moved to Monaco.

He’s just a different flavour of Cnut.

Find me a billionaire who isn't. The. Find me one who isn't who wants to buy a football club that is worth 7bn.

Hint: You won't be able to.

 

[croadyman]

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What are your plans Ratcliffe we need to hear

 

[Infra-red]

There is a significant and important distinction in how these bids would be financed:

Qatar will basically have the money to hand to enable the purchase which means they won't be tied to any debt/interest repayments and will be happy for a return in the long run having increased the value of the club.

SJR on the other hand is approaching JP, Sachs etc to confirm that they will finance the bid. This in effect will most likely lump absolutely incredible amounts of debt on the club that will need to be repaid.

It will be like the Glazer takeover on steroids.

You are going to need to provide a source for this wild accusation! Where has it been written than Ineos plan to load United's balance sheet with debt? Please say you haven't just made this up...