Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES

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Tuchel will be done this season. I said this to my Chelsea supporting colleagues a few months back. Doesn't strike me a manager who really gets a team playing good attacking football, very pragmatic like Mourinho.

They have a good squad and just dumped £100m on Sterling and Koulibaly yet the fans are saying he hasn't been backed?!

All very odd.
 
sullydnl said:
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@WeePat @TheMagicFoolBus and anyone else.

Those comments are bad. Like really bad. Who is he referring to do you think specifically? He doesn’t sound happy at all and to call out he teams commitment in pre season is really weird. Is there something going on behind the scenes getting mentioned in Chelsea circles?

A number of players wanting to leave that he’s having to include in his pre season is a mess.
 
I cant see where the goals are going to continually come from with Chelsea. Maybe they'll get fortunate and the goals will be spread throughout the side but Havertz and Werner, though both played a integral part in their CL victory a season back, have not exactly been outstanding acquisitions.
I guess all the hope at the moment , on that front, falls at the feet of Sterling.

Defensively and midfield they're solid though and I think that will be their bedrock this upcoming campaign. I don't think we'll see alot of high scoring games with them.
 
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Tuchel's going to get himself sacked by December. Odds on Chelsea winning the CL this season?
 
Just listened to Tuchel on sky sports. Yes he’s livid.

“Urgent need of quality players”
“No commitment”
“Players want to leave “

Sounds like chaos behind the scenes?
 
"We had an urgent appeal for quality players and a huge amount of quality players."

You'd think they were almost relegated last season, what a bizarre quote.
 
Beans said:
"We had an urgent appeal for quality players and a huge amount of quality players."

You'd think they were almost relegated last season, what a bizarre quote.
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Boehly is ready to spend £300m this window according to our Chelsea bunch so I’m wondering what’s going on?
 
TheReligion said:
Just listened to Tuchel on sky sports. Yes he’s livid.

“Urgent need of quality players”
“No commitment”
“Players want to leave “

Sounds like chaos behind the scenes?
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They have their own version of post Ferguson or Wenger era. Their deep pocketed owner and long-standing director are both gone. They have a new ownership group with an owner who thinks he can do the job himself. They lost Raphinha to Barcelona and now Kounde seems to be following the same way too. They basically lost their entire defense save for an old Thiago Silva. Their 110M investment in Lukaku turned to crap. It’s no wonder they are a shambles right now. Still plenty of time to get it right but not the ideal transition plan at works.
 
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The issue isn't the result, it's what Tuchel said about the team afterwards.

That there was a worrying lack of competetiveness, a lack of commitment, that the lack of commitment was partly due to several players wanting to leave, the problems he saw last season are still there, that they had an urgent need for a "huge amount" of quality reinforcements but only have two so far, that he's concerned about goalscoring, that they shouldn't even be mentioning City/Liverpool when a team like Arsenal look so far ahead of them, that they switched to four at the back because they didn't have the requisite number of CBs to keep playing with three, etc.

That's not what you want your manager saying two weeks before the season starts. And it makes it quite different to the normal, consequence-less pre-season loss you could shrug off.
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I get what Tuchel is saying, we've actually seen it at Arsenal pre season. The difference between the first half of the Everton game n game and the 2nd half when the likes of Bellerin, Mari, Maitland-Niles & Pepe came on was night and day.

The worrying thing for Chelsea is that performance is after we make our substitutions, not before. I'm sure they'll be fine though, they've got too much quality and still players to bring in.
 
Don't think he can be angry just yet. They knew their whole defence was leaving for months and Boehly clearly tried to get him massive signings. They even offered more money for some but nothing you can do when Barca is cheating their way in or the player only wants Bayern.
Not sure how they couldnt get Ake though nor why City would want to keep a free 50M check on their bench.
 
I was at the game last night. Chelsea had no idea what they were doing most of the time. Connor Gallagher was totally lost, always in the wrong place, and a liability the whole first half. Chalobah was the only player worth anything until they took him off for a knock. Tuchel was probably upset with pretty much all of them. They couldn't get much going.

Arsenal, on the other hand, showed up to play, moved the ball around well, and totally dominated. The 4-0 scoreline was kind to Chelsea.
 
TheReligion said:
Boehly is ready to spend £300m this window according to our Chelsea bunch so I’m wondering what’s going on?
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I expect Chelsea will be run much more like a business going forward. They have a quality squad, if they want to compete with City then yes, you need some players, but then so does everyone, I'm not sure it's healthy for clubs to compare themselves with the Abu Dhabi All-Stars, most everyone else has to live in reality.
 
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People talk about them lacking a striker but let's be honest, Lukaku's 8 goals in the league isn't a massive contribution. They played much better as a team with Havertz there so I don't see why that would be any different this season.
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They needed a CF before they signed Lukaku the fact he failed and flopped doesn't change the fact they still need a CF

Yes they're not worse off without him but they're certainly no closer to challenging either
 
Under a different manager everything at the moment would be pointing towards a bit of a meltdown at Chelsea and I thought that before seeing Tuchel's comments but I don't think Tuchel will go full Jose/Conte

The situation is understandably in a way as the new owners came in with such little time to prep for the new season and their transfer business has reflected that.

Like I say though I think Tuchel will see them through this seemingly unideal position though
 
Emerson got absolutely roasted last night. Arsenal moved the ball forward against him all night. I hope that the one thing that comes out of that game is that Tuchel now knows the Emerson project is over.
 
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Emerson got absolutely roasted last night. Arsenal moved the ball forward against him all night. I hope that the one thing that comes out of that game is that Tuchel now knows the Emerson project is over.
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Wow, Emerson still plays for you guys ?

Similar to United I guess. You're always taken back when a player, like Emerson, appears out of nowhere. Youre like "Holy shit, that guy still plays for us ? "
 
FrankDrebin said:
Wow, Emerson still plays for you guys ?

Similar to United I guess. You're always taken back when a player, like Emerson, appears out of nowhere. Youre like "Holy shit, that guy still plays for us ? "
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Baba Rahman has been there 7 years, Batshuayi 6 years, Bakayoko 5 years, Emerson 4 years.. all still there!

They have trimmed down the loan army a bit but can’t shift many of these big money flops that get hidden away with loans each season.

Not sure it will be a sustainable operating model now Roman has moved on. The Lukaku loan is another killer as his value continues to drop and drop as he gets closer to 30.
 
TheReligion said:
Baba Rahman has been there 7 years, Batshuayi 6 years, Bakayoko 5 years, Emerson 4 years.. all still there!

They have trimmed down the loan army a bit but can’t shift many of these big money flops that get hidden away with loans each season.
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For all the good she did for the club in many ways, in some cases Marina was definitely too stubborn. The likes of Rahman, Batshuayi and Bakayoko would all have been long gone from the club's books had they not signed contract extensions before some of their loans.

If there wasn't a market for a loan army player with little time remaining on their contract, Marina often thought it was a good idea to get them signed on another 1-2 year extension to 'protect the value of the asset' in hopes that they go on to have a successful loan and can be sold for money the next year. With players like Batshuayi, Bakayoko and Rahman many clubs have been happy to give them a tryout with a one year loan deal but surely it's been made crystal clear years ago that there isn't a single club out there willing to invest multi-million fees to sign them on long-term contracts. Because they are players of Chelsea, their salaries are probably too much for the kind of clubs that match their skill level so that doesn't help either.

This kind of approach will probably change now that Marina is gone. Then there's also the new loan regulations to consider that limit the number of loans for non-youth players, not that Chelsea have any problems meeting the new rules even now though.
 
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