We said we had other priorities
Antoine Griezmann| Signs a new contract till 2022
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Thus the cooling off. We can't spunk all that money upfront on June 1st and limit our room for manoeuvre with other targets.
Had Atlético been able to sign players AG could have been more vocal about moving without that being paramount to acting like a right prick. I'd expect Atlético to be more accommodating then, but not in this scenario.
In what way were they outsmarted? I don't think they were. Griezmann doesn't gain all that much by staying put IMO. Even if he signs a new contract, I don't think he'd get as much money as he would get from us. They haven't won more than us either. Living in Spain probably is more appealing to him, but I think he could deal with a few years in Manchester.
Yep
The only nagging doubt I had about Griezzy was his ruthlessness and ambition to be the best in the world.
If we look on this as charitable helping his club out then he fails on both counts.
if he has staged this, then he is ruthless but not ambitious.
Coming to United would have answered my doubts. Ship has sailed now I think!
If we look on this as charitable helping his club out then he fails on both counts.
if he has staged this, then he is ruthless but not ambitious.
Coming to United would have answered my doubts. Ship has sailed now I think!
And Griezmann is a finisher...? He's like a poacher a lot of the time, something United lack... Everytime a cross comes close to the goal there's no one there to finish, griezmann will be.
Honestly I'm pretty disappointed. Can't blame United for this one. Clearly it's all on his end. Just important to see if we can make up for his decision in the market now. Obviously very few players compare but I hope we were smart enough to not put all our eggs into his basket.
Don't know if anyone else is the same but that actually makes me feel a heck of a lot better?
The idea that he was all set to sign before Atletico's transfer embargo was upheld - obviously completely of their own fault - and he stayed out of admirable loyalty was a real punch in the gut.
The idea that he was never going to come and simply used us for an improved contract makes me think he was a dispensable snake.
I really wanted him at United and I thought it was a done deal. I'm Just so glad this didn't drag on all summer like WesleySchneidergate a few years ago. Is it wrong that I hope he finishes his career at AM having won absolutely nothing with them while Pogba has trophies galore?
I'm absolutely gutted.
He was interested but decided to stay.
Really hard to accept this is off.
I really cannot see us buying any other tier 1 talents this summer. There just aren't really any that look realistic at this point.
He was interested but decided to stay.
Really hard to accept this is off.
I really cannot see us buying any other tier 1 talents this summer. There just aren't really any that look realistic at this point.
And so we renew our date in one more year Antoine.
I think we should brake the bank for Mbappe now. Its a punt but I have a feeling about that lad.
Stop the bank?
Think he just wanted a new contract to be honest, Atleti were banned when we agreed a deal with him and they are banned now, nothing changed.
The only possible benefit to him not signing is we play a 4-3-3 next season. We get the best out of Pogba in a midfield 3 with Herrera AND hopefully Fabinho. Greizmann would've most likely meant 4-2-3-1 and shoehorning the most expensive player in the world for what would've been the second most expensive player.
It's actually a bit scary that Atletico has turned down that amount of money. I thought they weren't the richest around?
I thinks it's very clear he was interested.
I do expect it to be announced that he signed a new deal any minute though.
I do expect it to be announced that he signed a new deal any minute though.
stop it More than you think especially with new stadium opening (increased revenue).
It's More the fact they can't replace him. No point having the money if you can't win matches
Same. I've been a fan of his for ages and I thought this was in the bag. There isn't really anyone else this summer that would be as big and I feel such a big rejection is a bit worrisome
You forget to say that City will sign everyone, to complete the meltdown.
Very snakey move if he planned all of these.
Teasing with United for years just to get a pay raise.
I hope they put a ridiculous release fee on him this time so we can actually call it off for good.
Teasing with United for years just to get a pay raise.
I hope they put a ridiculous release fee on him this time so we can actually call it off for good.
I hope if that's the case then we don't sign him. If he wanted to play for us ,he should/would have signed. No playing around. I would prefer to sign some young star rather than being so desperate signing one player. Don't want him to feel like he is bigger than the club. We have had much bigger players play for us so if he doesn't want to come then so be it . Let us move on for greater things.
It might interest some but by law the buy out clause has to be affordable for the player.
I have no doubt he'll move from Atletico next summer when the transfer ban is lifted. Him and Simeone will both leave actually.
But to us ? don't know. Have a feeling he's pretty much dead to us now, if we have an agreement with him and ha cancelled it because of a thing like the ban, Ed may consider him already dead for the United because of this.
We'll have to go on with our lives and look for other targets. Ed can't do anything else.
But to us ? don't know. Have a feeling he's pretty much dead to us now, if we have an agreement with him and ha cancelled it because of a thing like the ban, Ed may consider him already dead for the United because of this.
We'll have to go on with our lives and look for other targets. Ed can't do anything else.
What's the formula for that?
Perhaps I have been jaded by the last few years but signing tier1 players isn't the simple answer to all our problems.
Our problem is that our additions seem to perform lower than expected. We need to fix that first.
I'm intrigued to see who else we have on our radar.
Barca put 180 mil on Ter Stegen's contract.
Wasn't Messi's a billion?
I don't know exactly but there is a precedent with a player of Real Sociedad who had a 30m clause but a judge decided that it was abusive and reduced it to 5m. If I'm not mistaken it has to be in the range of the player's wage during the length of the contract. So while you can see crazy clauses, they are often not solid in front of a judge.
Isn't it something in line with buying out the remainder of your contract (i.e. the sum of your remaining wages) or does that only kick in in your last year? It would render release clauses pointless tbh. In fact, that would only lead to even higher wages as a means to avoid players being snatched, more player power, no reward for clubs developing players... feck that, they already make enough money, don't they? It's not sustainable and most clubs would end up bankrupt while a few concentrate all the very best players.
Yup, I'd have loved him to come and believed he was coming but now I'm at the same point as you, feck him, he had his chance and either bottled it or is being loyal to a dodgy club.
See above.
No, it's about buying your contract for a fee that is set when the contract is negotiated, players can also buy the rest of their contract when they are in its last year according to FIFA rules. To be clear, it's not a football rule, basically the clauses are supposed to ensure that every workers are free to work for whoever they want without constraint like every other worker but because sportsmen are valuable assets for their employers, if they decide to break their contract without causes imputable to the employer they have to pay a fee, that fee is the buyout clause in Sport.
So technically by July Alexis Sánchez would cost what? 100K x 52? 5M quid and change?
He rejected us in favour of Atletico. I don't want us to renew our interest next Summer. We shouldn't comprimise our pride by crawling back to him to ask for another chance. Sign Lacazette, Fabinho and one or two more and look forward, not backwards.
If I'm not mistaken, it's about right. But I once heard that no club will sign a player that used that rule.
Enough. This thread should be locked until there is a substantial new development.
One outrageous thought. How about we see who we actually sign and more importantly how will that dross function in our team? Also, that same dross will be players that want to play for this team unlike Griezmann.
Correct. That is the Webster Ruling and there is an understanding among top clubs to not sign players that way.
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