It's tough going - What side of the fence are you on

[jojojo]

I don't get to choose whether or not to support United. I'm stuck with them. I didn't choose them in the first place. I'd have been disowned as a kid if I hadn't supported them.

Nothing changes my relationship to United.

But that's got nothing to do with my attitude towards its owners, its players or even its managers.

Yes, we might fail, but I'll be kicking and screaming all the way. This idea that you support United by placing an individual - like a manager - above the club is bizarre. It's got nothing to do with being a fan.

 

[Hectic]

You have to hope the club has more objectivity than that. When something isn't going to work out, it's almost always better to make the change as soon as possible.

Definitely, it's a nice sentimental statement, but unfortunately doesn't achieve anything and just sets the club back if the manager does prove to be shit. I can't see them going accepting two years without CL football (if it got that bad), possibly even a year.

 

[Cina]

This notion of Herrera being "infinitely better" than Fellaini is laughable.

Prior to us 'bidding', who actually considered him or even knew about him? Never mind all the other considerations rational people would make...

I agree with the first part, but he's been known about by plenty of posters for years now, he was one of the stars in that Bilbao team that got to the final of the Europa and outplayed us along the way, after all.

 

[Hectic]

I don't thin he rates this batch of players. When they were cutting to him on the side he looks so frustrated/bored/fed up. We should be higher up he doesn't now how to set the team up to grind out a win yet like Fergie could. We need 3 top quality player sand we won't get them in January. I now how you feel hectic but I feel he will come good, we need to give him more time.

I really hope so, but all my original doubts and fears have come back in. I'm not saying sack him or anything, but I can't see him keeping his position unless he makes a change to what is happening.

 

[Siorac]

What if he wins the Champions League.

Saves his game and shuts off the laptop.

 

[Siorac]

I don't get to choose whether or not to support United. I'm stuck with them. I didn't choose them in the first place. I'd have been disowned as a kid if I hadn't supported them.

Nothing changes my relationship to United.

But that's got nothing to do with my attitude towards its owners, its players or even its managers.

Yes, we might fail, but I'll be kicking and screaming all the way. This idea that you support United by placing an individual - like a manager - above the club is bizarre. It's got nothing to do with being a fan.

Absolutely this. We want what's the best for United, not what's best for David Moyes. As long as the two things are the same, we should stick by him. But that's all.

 

[Livewire1974]

What if he wins the Champions League.

He wont though.

 

[Hectic]

Yeah, but what if he did. I'm not saying he will do, I'm asking how you'd feel about him if he did.

 

[paceme]

He went for Fellaini... as a fit for Manchester United. That is a terrible omen by itself.

Making overtures toward Fabregas - did anyone buy that?

Baines at the prices touted is a joke.

There are more players: De Rossi, Herrera, Khediera perhaps Conetrau but most of them sounded like hot air at the time.

Fact remains that for all of the hot air, we ended up with Fellaini for £28m. That is damning on Moyes (and Woodward.)

Yeah but he targeted fabregas, coentrao, Baines and Herrera. Only idiots would think they were hot air. All good-top players in position we need. There's nothing to worry about with him spending money IMO.

 

[Livewire1974]

Yeah, but what if he did. I'm not saying he will do, I'm asking how you'd feel about him if he did.

I'd be absolutely delighted and very happy for him and the club.

 

[forevrared]

I thought all along we'd hire Moyes, so I spent a good bit of time convincing myself he'd work out - even if my initial reaction was that he was more of the same in terms of Sir Alex's weaknesses and none of the respect and man management ability that helped him get so much out of otherwise limited players and funds.

At this point, it's very tough to see that he has it in him to drag the players and club out of the funk he's got them into. He's not showing any fight and his performance in the summer transfer market gives me no confidence in his ability going forward, especially with an inexperienced Woodward along side him.

 

[mic.m]

A top 4 finish should be minimum for us. If we fail to achieve that he should go. If we finish in the top 4 he gets another year and funds to sort out his squad. He didn't inherit the greatest squad from Fergie but there is more enough quality to finish in the Champions League places.

 

[The Man Himself]

I really hope so, but all my original doubts and fears have come back in. I'm not saying sack him or anything, but I can't see him keeping his position unless he makes a change to what is happening.

I was in a similar boat to what you have described in this thread and in that long post few pages back. I badly wanted Mourinho as manager for his personality, but made peace with Moyes keeping an eye on long term. Not calling for his head, but Moyes seems a bit lost at the moment. He is a good manager but I feel he is not the kind who stamps his authority, something which is crucial as a job of United manager. Fergie did it right from day one and was supremely confident. I hope Moyes holds a long discussion session with SAF on this (on how to stop the rut). The 4th place is still not out of hands and a strong run from now till end of season can make us reach that target. Problem is, even being an eternal optimist, I am not able to convince myself that we can go on such run. Even during that 6 game winning run, I was thinking that couple of losses are around the corner. Just now, I was having a look at our remaining fixture list and calculated need of 43 points more from available 54 to ensure 4th. ffs I had to predict wins against City and Liverpool for that!

 

[togg]

I have been positive about him mostly since his appointment but leaving the ground today, wet n cold I am wondering what he can do.We've a long way to go and it's going to get far worse yet folks before it gets better.We're on our knees right now and nothing SAF can say to him will help either.I am on the fence regarding Moyes.Just gonna keep supporting the club.

Respect. I was at the Everton game and I could sense a support for Moyes...a realisation that this was no ordinary season. Everyone felt still a bit numb because of the biggest change for over twenty years. I just felt..talking to some of the fans in the ground that there was a willingness to accept it all to a point. I'm just wondering whether that point is starting to get crossed?!

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Darren Fletcher says United's FA Cup exit is a "massive blow", and adds: "We have to put in a performance for the fans, the manager and staff." Watch his post match interview with MUTV...
Jaysus, Fletcher looks and sounds gutted there. Never seen a United player so down in an interview.

 

[Hectic]

I was in a similar boat to what you have described in this thread and in that long post few pages back. I badly wanted Mourinho as manager for his personality, but made peace with Moyes keeping an eye on long term. Not calling for his head, but Moyes seems a bit lost at the moment. He is a good manager but I feel he is not the kind who stamps his authority, something which is crucial as a job of United manager. Fergie did it right from day one and was supremely confident. I hope Moyes holds a long discussion session with SAF on this (on how to stop the rut). The 4th place is still not out of hands and a strong run from now till end of season can make us reach that target. Problem is, even being an eternal optimist, I am not able to convince myself that we can go on such run. Even during that 6 game winning run, I was thinking that couple of losses are around the corner. Just now, I was having a look at our remaining fixture list and calculated need of 43 points more from available 54 to ensure 4th. ffs I had to predict wins against City and Liverpool for that!

Yeah there is still time and maybe Fergie can help him address some of the problems he has, but I think the optimist in me died today.

 

[iczster]

Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

 

[simonhch]

Lets just stage a coup. Tar and feather Moyes and have the Cafe take over the team. We can vote for the first XI in the match day thread and wheel Fergie out for pre-match team talks. We wouldn't even need paying, so the club would save a fortune on salaries. We'd hire good coaches to take care of training. They could post reports on here FM style to let us know that Danny Welbeck has made progress on his concentration in the last month but that Robin Van Persie is unhappy with his workload.

A simple poll would take care of signings. Had it been down to the Cafe we'd have Thiago and Gundogan in midfield today and Poggers would've had a new contract.

 

[The Man Himself]

Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

Hahaha. You were going so good, controlled the urge to abuse till 3rd para!

Nice to know Stretford end is behind him. I look at him and his record as manager at Everton and think, he is the guy, who technically has ingredients to succeed even in big job like this. My only worry is about his own mentality. Too much of 'nice guy.' Let's see what he does to turn it around. I keep telling myself that only way is upwards.

 

[JaffyJoe]

He needs more time lads.

 

[blythy]

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Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

Great post.

 

[The Man Himself]

Yeah there is still time and maybe Fergie can help him address some of the problems he has, but I think the optimist in me died today.

Don't lose hope Hectic. Maybe we are witnessing another 1986-89 period and will probably be telling stories few years down the line on how it was supporting United during early Moyes years

 

[simonhch]

Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

Good post but playing Devil's advocate here, sometimes tradition can also hold you back from progress. There were a lot of people that raised legitimate concerns with the hiring of David Moyes, and in fairness to a lot of those people (the sensible ones, who raised well thought out points, not the knee jerkers who just wanted a headline name) much of what they predicted has come true, and then some. Sticking by managers is the United tradition, but so is cohesive, attacking football. The negativity in our play has been the antithesis of our tradition. So it's a double edged sword you play with.

But thanks for your post. It's heart warming to hear about the reaction of match going fans. After all, these are the people that have put more on the line than any of us i.e. buying expensive season tickets.

And it's funny because in what other world, other than football, is it a good quality to support apparent ineptitude? There has been some bollocks talked, for sure. But I don't think it's fair to call people idiots because they are upset at the current state of the club they love. A lot has happened in the last 6 months that needs answering for. Moyes has made A LOT of big mistakes. It's only right he gets called into question. As Fergie has said countless times, all that matters are results. You HAVE to get them. Yet, I think Moyes has come into this job with a lot of leeway from fans. Most fans on here have defended him up until today. Most people have said, give him time. He's making a rod for his own back by losing game after game. You can't have a crack at other fans for that.

 

[rcoobc]

That's the one thing that is worrying me, that the players, in some warped way are trying to get Moyes out and stupidly think SAF will come back. If he did, a lot of them will be one their bikes.

Would explain why Rooney is play well

 

[Red Stone]

Darren Fletcher says United's FA Cup exit is a "massive blow", and adds: "We have to put in a performance for the fans, the manager and staff." Watch his post match interview with MUTV...
Jaysus, Fletcher looks and sounds gutted there. Never seen a United player so down in an interview.

"Two years of sickness, agony and working my ass off to get well again and this is what I return to?"

I'd be sad too.

 

[Hectic]

Don't lose hope Hectic. Maybe we are witnessing another 1986-89 period and will probably be telling stories few years down the line on how it was supporting United during early Moyes years

It would be amazing. Okay TMH I'm going to try and get a grip and re-convince myself that things can work out. If we lose on Tuesday though I might cry.

 

[Ryan's Beard]

Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

Good post. 3rd paragraph could do with going in the site rules.

 

[The Man Himself]

It would be amazing. Okay TMH I'm going to try and get a grip and re-convince myself that things can work out. If we lose on Tuesday though I might cry.

Me too
Although, I am sure we will win. We are not playing at OT after all on Tuesday

 

[thegregster]

Yeah but he targeted fabregas, coentrao, Baines and Herrera. Only idiots would think they were hot air. All good-top players in position we need. There's nothing to worry about with him spending money IMO.

He did. But he should have had another option at LB and never signed Fellaini. You dont always get your first choices and the drop was too big from the players mentioned to nothing at all and Fellaini.

 

[arthurka]

Moyes has lost the squad so we need to replace him..

 

[iczster]

Good post but playing Devil's advocate here, sometimes tradition can also hold you back from progress. There were a lot of people that raised legitimate concerns with the hiring of David Moyes, and in fairness to a lot of those people (the sensible ones, who raised well thought out points, not the knee jerkers who just wanted a headline name) much of what they predicted has come true, and then some. Sticking by managers is the United tradition, but so is cohesive, attacking football. The negativity in our play has been the antithesis of our tradition. So it's a double edged sword you play with.

But thanks for your post. It's heart warming to hear about the reaction of match going fans. After all, these are the people that have put more on the line than any of us i.e. buying expensive season tickets.

Of course it is but great attacking play takes time and confidence. The whole club has had a knock, new manager, new directors, new backroom staff. All this has led to a lack of confidence in the players and doubts on whether the heights of the previous regime can be reached again.

I have every confidence that, given time, we can turn this around. This would be the ultimate way of slapping the detractors and opposition fans in the face by making this work. Obviously there will inevitably come a time where if nothing changes or gets better than something will need to be done.

That time is not now, as Fergie used to say, theres no doubt about that.

 

[marjen]

If we somehow salvage CL football it will probably be only fair to give him the summer to try and sort out the glaring weaknesses in our squad.

A top four finish was the absolute minimum I would deem acceptable before the season started. That hasn't changed. However, Moyes has disappointed me in showing absolutely no semblance of evolving our style, and judging by his first transfer window I'm very, very reluctant to trust that man in rebuilding the squad. So I'm probably less inclined to want him to stay, even if we do finish fourth.

 

[togg]

Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

Good post...always respect people who are at the match. So many armchair critics here who only see highlights/steams whatever of a game dictated by TV sports directors! As for comments about fans leaving the game early..well, that happens quite a lot. Have any of you actually tried to get home when 75,000 leave a space at the same time in Manchester? Have you experienced those trams!!!!!

Anyway, from day one I have wanted Moyes to succeed. First he is british...and I want a british manager to succeed. Also because if he is successful, he will stay....he wont' feck off to somewhere else when he is bored. Also I like him...I believe he wants to be so dam successful, but I just think he needs a bit of time to get the players in he wants..or thinks he needs now that he has tested what he inherited. I think he knows who he wants out..and perhaps who he really wants in. It is going to be up to the board to support him..give him the funds and give him the chance to make a real go of it with his vision. If it fecks up then...then sure, its obvious and right, for a club our size, for someone else to be given the chance...

 

[simonhch]

Of course it is but great attacking play takes time and confidence. The whole club has had a knock, new manager, new directors, new backroom staff. All this has led to a lack of confidence in the players and doubts on whether the heights of the previous regime can be reached again.

I have every confidence that, given time, we can turn this around. This would be the ultimate way of slapping the detractors and opposition fans in the face by making this work. Obviously there will inevitably come a time where if nothing changes or gets better than something will need to be done.

That time is not now, as Fergie used to say, theres no doubt about that.

I was one of a few that was actually excited by Moyes being appointed. I read (and posted) a lot of articles about the coaching studying he had done. Particularly of Basle and Bayern's playing styles. So I have been watching ever so carefully to see an evolution in our play. I think we would all tolerate some crappy results if we could see where this was going; but I just don't see anything at all happening. All I see is a poor imitation of what Fergie did. Are you seeing something at the ground that I'm not?

I had so much hope. Week by week it's been whittled down, and now I don't feel any left. It makes me feel dirty to say I want him gone because I've said countless times he needs at least two seasons. Yet I just can't bring myself to parrot that line anymore.

 

[Salfordlad70]

Respect. I was at the Everton game and I could sense a support for Moyes...a realisation that this was no ordinary season. Everyone felt still a bit numb because of the biggest change for over twenty years. I just felt..talking to some of the fans in the ground that there was a willingness to accept it all to a point. I'm just wondering whether that point is starting to get crossed?!

There is a very supportive crowd at the games for Moyes.I have not sensed there is a turning as yet although privately people are questioning him, which done privately is fine! I can't imagine what it will like if the fans openly turn as they did in the late eighties before SAF turned it round.That was horrific! Before that I remember a time when certain players every touch was booed, Alan Brazil stands out, but if things get worse for a crowd that is made up of a large percentage of supporters who only know success then what might happen and how ugly could it get! Fans can be fickle and they're under presure as everyone involved with the club is and lets say things continue this season and into next, then what?? I hope most fans just keep up with the positive chanting and singing and I hope the club listens and realises that we are in trouble, and right now we are!

 

[Getsme]

The upcoming game against Swansea is massive, the biggest game in Moyes career. If we lose that then I feel the crowd will turn on him.
He still has the backing I feel, only just though. If we go 14 points behind the leaders or 8 behind 4th place, add to that it would be mean 5 defeats out of the last 7 home games and 7 defeats out off 21 games in the premiership.
I just can't see how he could continue.

 

[Feed Me]

The upcoming game against Swansea is massive, the biggest game in Moyes career. If we lose that then I feel the crowd will turn on him.
He still has the backing I feel, only just though. If we go 14 points behind the leaders or 8 behind 4th place, add to that it would be mean 5 defeats out of the last 7 home games and 7 defeats out off 21 games in the premiership.
I just can't see how he could continue.

The numbers make for grim reading.

Tbh, even if we do manage to beat Swansea next weekend, we then have to travel to Stamford Bridge - the most we're getting there is a point. I honestly think we're fecked when it comes to 4th place.

 

[Someone]

Sacking him halfway through the season achieves nothing, he should be judged in the summer, if it keeps getting worse then it means he's lost the dressing room, no one can recover from that, if we start making progress, real progress, then back him in the summer and give him another season, i really want him to succeed and i genuinely feel sorry for him, but i don't think he will.

 

[Sauxees Moi Hui]

At this point, the operative question is whether we think that Moyes is good enough to guide this team (plus whatever January signings we can realistically make) into the top four. If the answer is "no", then we might as well sack him now and bring someone in to steady the ship. For example, Guus Hiddink is available.

 

[datura]

Just got back from the game and yes it was disapointing. To those who think that the fans are turning on Moyes are wrong, there are small pockets around the ground. I am not sure where the boo's came from but it wasnt from the Stretford end who clapped both the team and Moyes off the field to a man. Both looking equally gutted heading off down the tunnel.

Moyes is made of sterner stuff and he has shown some steel in the last few months, he's had to. Changing managers at the drop of the hat is not the united way, it never has been. The era of building a football dynasty maybe over these days, but as a lifelong United fan I would love the club to make a stand for this tradition. A club needs to stand up to the constant shit of chairmen and media madness that is prevelant in the modern game, I hope its us that can show footballing values are not lost and can still work.

Some of the fecking idiots on this forum should take a long cold look at themselves and question if they support the club or not. It is way too early to be thinking anything other than getting 100% behind the team and the manager. Posters who I havent fecking seen a post from in years suddenly appearing talking shite and the shit threads popping up all over the place, my days.

I am going to give the CAF a wide birth for a while in the football forums because they just make me swear. I will be continuing to support the club, players and manager through what is, and was always going to be, a turbulent transition period.

See you on the other side.

There was booing and some disgruntlement in the Stretty, and a huge exodus after the Bony goal. I had some twat walking down past me shouting 'feck off back to Everton you scottish cnut'. There will be a tipping point at some time if home results in particular do not improve.

 

[Getsme]

The numbers make for grim reading.

Tbh, even if we do manage to beat Swansea next weekend, we then have to travel to Stamford Bridge - the most we're getting there is a point. I honestly think we're fecked when it comes to 4th place.

Sadly I agree.
We desperately need RVP back, and let's be honest it could take him 5/6 games to get back to full fitness. The question is, will the Glazers trust Moyes with the transfer kitty, at the moment it's a big gamble.