Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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"Finally scoring against the English"... I'm betting that's been nagging him. Or, it could be that only the English would even think of that as a stat. Probably because that's the only time they've seen him.
Anyway, he's proved again and again what a class striker he is, today is just another day in that sense. Class on a football field is what ability you have together with how effective you use it. Zlatan has been a top top class striker for quite a long time now, even though some are coming around first now.
I've been a supporter for ages, and I am Norwegian and I hate his guts.
Anyway, he's proved again and again what a class striker he is, today is just another day in that sense. Class on a football field is what ability you have together with how effective you use it. Zlatan has been a top top class striker for quite a long time now, even though some are coming around first now.
I've been a supporter for ages, and I am Norwegian and I hate his guts.
One game is exactly what it's not.
It's several games. But no matter how many games he will always face criticism on here.
Is it several?
A couple of weeks ago supporters of Barca were on his back. He's just one of those players that divides opinions, one minute he's tumescent, the next he's brilliant. Those moments of brilliance can go missing for long periods sometimes. What with his apparent temperament, that's always going to be a recipe for division
Funny thing is that his credintials have always been doubted because of his lack of goals in the CL knockouts. Other than that you can argue little about his abilities, and when finally does score in the knouckouts and in some style as well, people still wouldn't give him credit saying he should score with the amount of chances he gets, even though both finishes were exceptional. I think that's what's pathetic really.
Five goals in the latest four. 15 goals and 6 assists in 24 games in the league according to my stats.
That's obviously in addition to what he has done at Inter, Juve and Ajax.
So yes, it is quite clearly a lot more than one game.
You are a great poster Brad, but your hate for Zlatan seems deep and not rational IMO. Something you must have picked up in Sweden for some reason.
Two good goals after a total horror show in the first half. Given what happened in the second half, he still let his team down with his misses.
Same goes for Rooney yesterday.. a sitter which could bury the tie all together
Should have scored 2 of his 3, especially in his current form. We had other good chances though.
He came good tonight after struggling to find his shooting boots in the first half. I dont know why people should downplay his reputation as one of the most fearsome strikers in the world. His achievements and scoring record at club level pretty much speak for themselves.
Zlatan has always been class.
Zlatan has always been class.
Because two goals in the second half obviously don't matter if he missed a few chances in the first half.
Ah here we go again...Messi's obviously not all that because he's only scored 1 in 11 against English opposition then?
Strikers can't perform without service. He had service today and he scored two, you shouldn't really ask for much more.
He scores two goals and you still find a way to criticise him.
Unbelievable.
He's a top class striker and has been for years.
Because two goals in the second half obviously don't matter if he missed a few chances in the first half.
2 out of 5 or so. Good goals, but Barcelona needed to take their chances today. And he was terrible in that 45 minutes, not just with chances missed but conceeding stupid foul after stupid foul and all round poor play.
Ah here we go again...Messi's obviously not all that because he's only scored 1 in 11 against English opposition then?
Strikers can't perform without service. He had service today and he scored two, you shouldn't really ask for much more.
He scores two goals and you still find a way to criticise him.
Unbelievable.
He's a top class striker and has been for years.
So score 2 good goals and it doesnt matter what you do for the rest of the game? I'll have to remember that terrible argument for when you argue the opposite in the future.
And he won the "Scored against the English"-trophy today.
I know he has been wanting one of those.
He hasn't scored against the Norwegians though. I'm holding that against him for all it's worth.
I know he has been wanting one of those.
He hasn't scored against the Norwegians though. I'm holding that against him for all it's worth.
Score two goals in the Champions League knockout stage and you've done your job very nicely.
I thought the criticism for Ibrahimovic from you was all about the goals anyway? Scored the first goal for Barcelona plenty of times this season, scored a variety of goals and scored in a variety of competitions/situations.
Actually, it was even more precisely the lack of goals "in the last 16 of Europe".
Which he obviously has done a few times this year.
Good performance by him tonight, hopefully he can take some heart from this performance.
That's like saying Rooney did the same in the Bayern match. Only difference being that Zlatan scored 2 away goals.
Now it's about how many he misses rather than how many he scores.
Bizarre.
Bizarre.
So he now has 3 goals in the knock out stages and has scored the winner against Real Madrid this season.
Not bad for a big game, CL knock-out stage bottler.
Fitting there wasn't an English player on the pitch for his two goals.
Read further up about Rooney.
When wasnt it?
Bizarre.
Barcelona needed him to take his chances tonight. He scored 2 but missed a lot more and was absolutely terrible in the first half on top of it.
Barcelona needed him to take his chances tonight. He scored 2 but missed a lot more and was absolutely terrible in the first half on top of it.[/QUOTE]
What about the sitters missed by Messi and Xavi? Did Barca not need them to take it too? Or do they only need Ibrahimovic to take his chances?
What about the sitters missed by Messi and Xavi? Did Barca not need them to take it too? Or do they only need Ibrahimovic to take his chances?
Or:
He gave his team a fantastic result for the return leg, in a difficult match, with two stunning goals.
If Messi, Pedro and Xavi boasted the same finishing ratio as Ibrahimovic tonight Barcelona would be home and dry.
The two goals he did score were hardly 'given's either.
1 of them was very good. The other was hit hard. He could have put Arsenal out of the match in the first half.
Right here, for one:
I'm sure I could find countless other quotes saying all he needed to do was score goals in important games.
The Zlatan discussion on here is truly pathetic.
He is obviously a top class striker. How or why some on here just refuse to accept that is mindboggling.
He is obviously a top class striker. How or why some on here just refuse to accept that is mindboggling.
Exactly, Barca needed to take their chances. Therefore they needed all of their players to take their chances, and since Ibrahimovic was the only one to convert some of his chances, as opposed to Messi, Pedro and Xavi, he contributed more than any of them to Barca's 2 goal advantage (That's not to say that Xavi played badly, as he still dictated the tempo of the game)
Point is, if anyone's let his team down with his misses, it certainly isn't the only player to convert two of his chances!
And where exactly in that quote does it say all he needs to do is score goals in important games?
Cant see why you're making things up right now
bizarre.He obviously wants to be playing well too, which he often does. But he didnt tonight in the first 45. He was dire.
And if he's going to be one of the few best strikers in the world, he needs to be scoring most of his good chances. Tonight he missed most of them, even though he did score a very nice/brilliant lob and took his second well enough. He still missed guilt edged chances which leave Arsenal in the game. As people keep bringing up Rooney without bothering to read what I've already written about him, yes he should have scored most of his chances yesterday too. He scored 1 in 3. The best striker in the world should be managing 2 in 3.
It's always been about the goals.
Typical of you to try and change your argument as you go along but it's pretty clear you're overly critical of him.
That's probably the hardest technique in football. To hit a ball that hard and find the near post top corner.
Do you understand football?
And where exactly in that quote does it say all he needs to do is score goals in important games?
Cant see why you're making things up right now
He obviously wants to be playing well too, which he often does. But he didnt tonight in the first 45. He was dire.
And if he's going to be one of the few best strikers in the world, he needs to be scoring most of his good chances. Tonight he missed most of them, even though he did score a very nice/brilliant lob and took his second well enough. He still missed guilt edged chances which leave Arsenal in the game. As people keep bringing up Rooney without bothering to read what I've already written about him, yes he should have scored most of his chances yesterday too. He scored 1 in 3. The best striker in the world should be managing 2 in 3.
No-one thinks he's the best striker in the world.
Criticising him for not being the best striker in the world is like criticising Rooney for not being the best player in the world.
Do you think he's a top class striker?
You know that when it's as bad as having Scholesy question your footballing wisdom, you're fecked, Ekeke.
He's their striker. Its a bit different.
Messi should have done a bit better, definately a bit of an off day for him after the start. Pedro is still learning and given he's already scored in 6 competitions this season I think we can let him off, he's covered for the strikers enough this season. Xavi should have done a bit better, but he's a central midfielder and he's playing in central midfield. As long as he gets a certain amount over the course of a season he's done his part. No team should be relying on their central midfielder to get them the game winning goal. Especially not a team such as Barcelona.
Overall you'd want one of them to come up with the goal, but it isnt their responsibility as much as the striker. Especially when the striker had chance after chance after chance and fluffed them. Sitter included.
Look at the wider context, no striker will ever convert the majority of their 'chances'. Ibrahimovic has got the same shots-to-goal ratio as Wayne Rooney this season. Not saying he's been as good as Rooney this season, but he hasn't been particularly wasteful either.
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