Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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Answer my question seriously, what does Ronaldo have to do with this?

Jacob asked if it was possible that Ibrahimovich might break the record of most goals in a first in Laliga and I'm the one who mentioned Ronaldo and his crazy numbers at Barca in order to say that it'll be next to impossible for Zlatan to beat that
 
I have a feeling that Barca will got all out for Fabregas in the summer if Arsenal dont win anything, and then push Iniesta into Henry's place.

There's been talk of Robinho to Barca to replace Henry, but there's just something about Robinho that his heart isn't into any club that he'll go to just aslong as he picks up a fat pay cheque
 
nice location, ROnaldo No.9. Nesta has been brilliant when i've seen him this season. Well all bar one game where he was awful...

anyway, Robinho is heartless. He doesnt give a shit about it. He picks and choses when to turn up which is a shame because ability wise he is right up there.

Henry is finished, i fully expect that to happen with Iniesta wide for a bit. for me Pedro and Bojan are better options that Henry now and if you look at the team they put out, the strongest team they can it doesnt include Henry any more.

Iniesta, Ibrahimovic, Messi
Kieta, Xavi
Busquets/Toure
 
nice location, ROnaldo No.9. Nesta has been brilliant when i've seen him this season. Well all bar one game where he was awful...

anyway, Robinho is heartless. He doesnt give a shit about it. He picks and choses when to turn up which is a shame because ability wise he is right up there.

Henry is finished, i fully expect that to happen with Iniesta wide for a bit. for me Pedro and Bojan are better options that Henry now and if you look at the team they put out, the strongest team they can it doesnt include Henry any more.

Iniesta, Ibrahimovic, Messi
Kieta, Xavi
Busquets/Toure

He's still of use to Barca though, regardless of how much he's declined, because he offers something in behind which is sorely lacking a lot of the time without him(and Eto'o).

Ibrahimovic might've brought another dimension but at the same time they've lost one. They've not added to their play they've just changed it.
 
He's still of use to Barca though, regardless of how much he's declined, because he offers something in behind which is sorely lacking a lot of the time without him(and Eto'o).

Ibrahimovic might've brought another dimension but at the same time they've lost one. They've not added to their play they've just changed it.

And it's hindered Henry in the process, he's almost playing as a winger these days, something which he despised when he originally featured under Rijkaard. He only really does one thing when out wide and that's to take the player on the outside with pace.

Zlatan is alot more Static than Eto'o and from watching the Super Cup vs Shaktar it was obvious Henry is not going to have the season he had before, because the interchanging isn't as frequent. I would go as far to say Barca are not as strong this year because of the way they play. Only time will tell though, but I can see some clear weaknesses when last year they were almost flawless.
 
He's still of use to Barca though, regardless of how much he's declined, because he offers something in behind which is sorely lacking a lot of the time without him(and Eto'o).

Ibrahimovic might've brought another dimension but at the same time they've lost one. They've not added to their play they've just changed it.

Eto'o is in decline too...

Henry does look to get in behind but he doesnt have the pace, he cant beat men anymore and he's became very predictable. He played that role last season and was good but so far he's been wank. I know writting him off is silly but so for, and going by what i've seen he looks finished. Bojan, Pedro and Iniesta offer more in that role now because even the 1 on 1 situations that Henry was once master of are getting away from him.

Before the start of the season i thought the player who would benifit most from Ibrahimovic being in the side was Henry. Because Zlatan looks for that pass, i knew he would lay on many chances to someone with the instincts of Henry but so far in 15 appearances he's managed 2 goals.

Again i dont want to write him off but i really think he's had it. Personally i also believe that Ibra has been better than Eto'o. His all round play is far far superior and he compliments the barcelona style. Now i know for a fact they cant have the same success this season, because it is so unlikely but that is not down to Ibrahimovic swapping with Eto'o. It is down to teams being unable to sustain success, especially following the most successful season EVER by a spanish club. It cant be done again, at least not back to back...

The whole team is not on the same level yet as they were the previous season. Messi has been very good but not in the same bracket so far as he was last season. Iniesta has not started going yet, Xavi has been consistent but not consistently brilliant... In my honest opinion the most impressive so far has been Ibra, he's been sensational and that is on an individual and as a team player.

Also you talk about Eto'o and in behind but one thing that has surprised me more than anything has been the movement of Ibra, he gets in behind and often plays on the shoulder of the last defender.
 
Agreed, I wonder if he can recapture it as the season progresses
 
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Didn't see the match but he scored the equaliser in Europe, the away goal, which is very important.
 
I thought the tone on here was: "Good player, never scores in an important game or last 16 of the CL, so he can't be that good."

Now he did.

I think it was more "Fantastic player, but hasnt scored in 16 games in the champions league final stages, so despite his talent its hard to pick him as the best striker in the world. Because you know... The champions league final 16 matches are kind of important and as a striker goalscoring is your burden"

He scored today, doesnt matter how it went in. But 1 in 17 sounds better than 0 in 16. Now he just needs to keep it up.
 
I think it was more "Fantastic player, but hasnt scored in 16 games in the champions league final stages, so despite his talent its hard to pick him as the best striker in the world. Because you know... The champions league final 16 matches are kind of important and as a striker goalscoring is your burden"

He scored today, doesnt matter how it went in. But 1 in 17 sounds better than 0 in 16. Now he just needs to keep it up.

To be fair that's probably what just you said. There's a lot of people in this thread who said otherwise, I'd dig it up if I could be arsed.
 
I could dig up posts myself I think, but can't be bothered.

There were several on here basing their opinion on Zlatan purely on the fact that he hadn't scored in the final 16 of the CL. Or atleast they gave that impression.
 
I could dig up posts myself I think, but can't be bothered.

There were several on here basing their opinion on Zlatan purely on the fact that he hadn't scored in the final 16 of the CL. Or atleast they gave that impression.

Yeah quite a lot of people ignored his record in Italy, quite a few even dismissed him scoring against Madrid this season. Despite him being in worse form right now, he's still proving people wrong.
 
I could dig up posts myself I think, but can't be bothered.

There were several on here basing their opinion on Zlatan purely on the fact that he hadn't scored in the final 16 of the CL. Or atleast they gave that impression.

It was probably mainly me pointing it out. But as AttackingFlair just agreed, my argument was only ever that he's not the top or one of the few top strikers in the world because of his piss poor record in the champions league last 16. I never doubted his quality or creative play which have obviously been top class for a number of years. But if you cant rely on a striker in the competition that most clubs in europe consider the top level of competition (at least in club football) then its hard to say he's the best striker.

Today he broke a poor streak. And as far as I'm concerned a line should be drawn under it and that streak forgotten. Because if he doesnt score in the next 3 or 4 last 16 matches he's still scored recently and thats all that matters.
 

should've put it away first time. I think Ibra still has a fair bit to prove yet, as a striker for the much-heralded Catalan army I'd be dissapointed if he didn't score.
 
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