Best striker in the world.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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He's a very good striker, i personally wouldn't call him world class. That's just my opinion, i've no doubt he'll score goals in this Barca side (heck if i was upfront for this Barca side i'd grab a couple) but we'll see how he does at the business end of the season.
The "big game bottler "scored in the Clasico, now I hope Barça will draw the likes of Unirea Urziceni so if Ibra scores vs the Romanians and other such strong opposition he will be finally labelled as world class 
Pretty much how id put it....how a man who’s been a constant failure in Europe’s flagship competition for years can be described as the best striker in the world is as baffling as it gets really...id rate at least 3 strikers currently in the premier league alone vastly superior to him.
He's right up there but you'd have to admit that Didier Drogba is the best at the moment
Drogba/Torres/Villa/Rooney are all better than Ibrahimovich to name but a few....then you could easily make an argument that the Van persie of this season (before his injury) and the Eto'o of Barcelona are better strikers....a very good argument at that.
You can only win the league you play in actually and it's Ibrahimovic's first season in Spain. He may well end up winning the title there now too.
Besides, it's a team sport as it's been suggested. Giggs has never played in major international competition, does that make him a worse player than all of those who featured in World Cup and Euros?
More folks are setting themselves up for a massive word eating feast. I like this.
zlatan is ace. the quality is there for all to see. techincally (forget calciopoli for the moment...as zlatan was superb for juve...16 million euro in 2004 was a snip) the lad has won the league in every country he has played in 6 years straight, and will probably make it 7 (with barca).
absolutely, i just find it funny that only Drogba and Torres can be rated as the best when you have top strikers like Zlatan proving every muppet wrong.
In the biggest game of the season in spain he scores with his first chance, winning the game for his side with a great finish. He is right up there indeed and for me he is unique.
Looking back at the goalscorers in el clasico it's amazing how it's nearly always the big names that gets the goals.
Messi, Eto'o, Ronaldo, Raul, Ibrahimovic, Henry, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldinho, Owen, Zidane have all scored in this fixture in the last few years. The only real "surprise" scorers in recent times have been Pique, Puyol and Ramos.
Messi, Eto'o, Ronaldo, Raul, Ibrahimovic, Henry, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldinho, Owen, Zidane have all scored in this fixture in the last few years. The only real "surprise" scorers in recent times have been Pique, Puyol and Ramos.
Drogba's had one great full season, two mediocore and has started this one great.
Ibra's been the best football player in Serie A (ahead of players like Kaka) in 07/08 and 08/09. He was key to Inter's 06/07 title as well. He was also foreign football of the year in Serie A in 2005. Clearly Ibra has been consistently better than Drogba. But no, because Drogba is an established striker in the Premiership, it is a no brainer to some.
Torres great in his first season for Liverpool, not as good in his second (yes he was injured but Ibra has been injured for Inter too). He's doing great now (until another injury).
Rooney's more of an off striker and David Villa, well no one can argue he's one of the best in the world.
But I don't think it's as clear cut as you make out at all.
it's amazing, basically anyone is better than Zlatan in some people eyes. Anyone who has a decent season is better than him it seems 
I'd say it isnt cut and dry who is the best, there are a few great strikers in the world and Zlatan is absolutely one of them, anyone saying otherwise is baised or clueless.
I'd say it isnt cut and dry who is the best, there are a few great strikers in the world and Zlatan is absolutely one of them, anyone saying otherwise is baised or clueless.
That's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, don't you think?
Last season Eto'o scored 36 goals in 52 total matches. 30 League goals in 36 League matches.
He absolutely tore Nemanja Vidic and our defence to shreds in Rome.
i watched most if not all barca games and as many goals as he scored he wasnt all that great. I know it sounds crazy but that team was just playing so well and of course he is still a top striker, a great finisher too but he was really not the best last season, despite his goal scoring.
Eto'o was a better player during the time Ronaldinho was around imo
Thats fair enough i dont expect everyones opinion to be the same on any subject let alone one regarding an individual player....but in my opinion strikers like David Villa/Fernando Torres/Drogba/Rooney etc are far better players and far more reliable ones at that.
absolutely bulltripe...
If Ibrahimovic was or did play in the prem he would be rated alongside Drogba and Torres as the best. It's typical prem bias, nothing more and nothing less.
If Ibrahimovic was or did play in the prem he would be rated alongside Drogba and Torres as the best. It's typical prem bias, nothing more and nothing less.
When ibrahimvoich has come up against said strikers in the champions league hes been made to look 'absolutely bulltripe' as you so eloquently put it...
He’s vastly overrated...
Doesnt change the fact that he'd be rated on a par if he played for UNited, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal.
a winner in the biggest game of the season, consistently one of barcas best players (barca are the best team in the world right?) and a couple of meaningless goals in the champions league away from muppets giving him the credit he deserves as one of the world best. Idiocy pure and simple.
Interesting article with some very good statistical points on Zlatan...think youll enjoy it frankly Vulgar...note the part where hes "never finished the leagues top scorer for any team hes played" and his goal scoring record against the finer clubs of italian football to go along with his record against the more stella names on the continent in the champions league...
Is Inter's Zlatan Ibrahimovic Overrated?
Is Inter's Zlatan Ibrahimovic Overrated?
strange since last season he was the top scorer in italy...
i dont need to read any articles written about him or any other player i watch frequently. I have my own opinions on them formed from what i've seen them do in their careers.
It is very easy to say a player is overrated and you judge him by his goal scoring which is daft because he was never the greatest goal scorer. He's really worked on that side of his game and now is a consistent goal scorer but it is his all round footballing ability that sets him apart. He is the most creative frontman in football and that is why i rate him so highly.
i dont need to read any articles written about him or any other player i watch frequently. I have my own opinions on them formed from what i've seen them do in their careers.
It is very easy to say a player is overrated and you judge him by his goal scoring which is daft because he was never the greatest goal scorer. He's really worked on that side of his game and now is a consistent goal scorer but it is his all round footballing ability that sets him apart. He is the most creative frontman in football and that is why i rate him so highly.
I don't rate Drogba as highly as some, I'd take quite a few strikers ahead of him, including the likes of Torres/Villa/Eto'o. The Caf would prefer Drogba because most of them mainly watch the premiership and buy into the English media which over hypes every player just as much as any other.
Managers? For one, Mourinho managed both and he was the one claiming Ibra was the best player in the world. Of course, he isn't the best player in the world, but that's about as high praise as you'll get. Mourinho also saw Ibra carrying the Inter team, so he realised how good he was. It's no surprise that not only did he replace him with a top striker in Eto'o but also another in Milito and also players like Sneijder, Motta and Lucio to add to the team.
Fabio Capello likens Ibrahimovic to Van Basten, again you won't get as high praise as that. He's managed Ibra at Juventus, he can't be an idiot can he?
Guardiola is no fool either, he brought in Ibra despite everyone thinking it was ridiculous but there's Guardiola proving everyone wrong with his decision and also Ibra himself, who has been one of Barca's best players.
90% of the Caf would say Drogba but would those in Italy or those in Spain who've realised Ibra's talents just now say the same? I don't know..
You may not rate the league but Kaka is a player who is undoubtedly rated by everyone. Now if the league is that easy and poor and Kaka is seen as the best player, why he wasn't he the best player in the league over the years? Credit has to be given to Ibrahimovic, but haters are reluctant to, even when he just proved himself yesterday on such a stage.
I wouldn't say he's "far better" at all, it's down to opinion. There's no doubt Torres is a fine striker. I could make arguments like where's his club trophies? Or if he was so great why are Liverpool still poor and not further up in the league? I won't make them arguments though. Torres may score more goals but Ibra has more than goals to his game (and he's not a bad scorer either). His assist to Pedro in one of Barca's matches this season is something Torres couldn't do imo.
Top scorer in Serie A 2009.
No he wouldn’t because statistically and in games where it really matters against the cream of the crop he nor his record do not stack up against the Drogbas/Torres/Villas of this world..…which is the bottom line.
The same could be said about our very own Dimitar Berbatov...dosnt get the goals but his all round technical/creative game is brilliant....
For all the slaggings italian football takes around here look at the talent players in the league around the time of Ibrahimovic. For anyone to say he was the best of a bad bunch or something of that ilk is disrespectful.
He's just scored the winner in the biggest fixture in spain in the biggest game in the world. If he scores the winner in a game in the CL later stages then even the most ardent ditractors will be eating their words. Amazing how one goal makes the difference from a player being "overrated" and "world class". Retarded i say.
He's just scored the winner in the biggest fixture in spain in the biggest game in the world. If he scores the winner in a game in the CL later stages then even the most ardent ditractors will be eating their words. Amazing how one goal makes the difference from a player being "overrated" and "world class". Retarded i say.
Ibra scores more goals though, so that point is redundant.
I rate Berbatov, great player but he's not a patch on ibrahimovic.
Also you are talking about the big games? he just scored in El Classico with his first kick of the ball to win the game for his side. That is his first big game at Barca.
For Inter he scored against all italian big teams bar Juve i think. It's the retards way of disregarding a footballer. There actually is more to a player than goals. I've rated Ibrahimovic for a long time but in some peoples eyes he will never be rated, he splits opinions but it's basically listening to Andy Gray and other retarded Prem biased pundits that makes peoples minds up for them.
The same people who claim italian football to be boring and unwatchable despite never watching a game.... baffling reasoning.
Bloody hell, how can you be a great player but not a patch on Ibrahimovic. What does that make Ibra then?
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Not a patch was harsh but basically Ibra is Berbatov but bigger, stronger, faster and with more skill and possibly even greater vision/technique and that little side to him, the fire like Rooney has where he can boil over. He noises up defenders and doesnt shirk a physical challange.
Well going by your logic, Defoe must be the second best striker in the world. You seem to ignore performances from previous seasons and just see a run of form right now as determining the best of the best. Many people would say Torres/Villa/Eto'o are as good if not better than Drogba. I don't know where you get your assumption from that everyone thinks Drogba is the best.
He does but what does that say about his thoughts on Ibra and Drogba then, if he claims one as the best?
He rates Rooney as a world class player, don't think I've seen him say best he's ever worked with? But anyway, he's right in that Rooney is a world class player just as he is in rating Ibra (in my opinion).
How is Guardiola signing Ibra not "glowing recommendation"? Regardless of however the transfer works out, it shows that the manager rates the player to sign him. Just like SAF rates Veron, regardless of how he turned out. Plus, paying such a high fee for a player, it would be utter bullshit to suggest that Guardiola doesn't rate Ibrahimovic that highly.
May be - may not, but I'd argue its not as clear cut as you make out for the reasons I said.
Totti, Del Piero, Cassano.. you probably don't rate any of them either though. You act like it's the Dutch league or something. Serie A was still a good league during the time Ibra was there, their two best players (Ibra and Kaka) left, however. I suppose the top performer in Serie A should not ever be recognised then? People seem to praise the likes of Gourcuff and Benzema in a lesser league in France for their performances and winning the awards in their country but in a better league Ibra is not praised by some of you. Quite ridiculous.
22 goals in all comps the season before. 29 goals in all competitions last season.
But Drogba IS better. As is Torres for me.
Ibra just has failed miserably in Europe season after season. When the world watches he seems to turn a bit shit. One goal isn't going to change that. It's going to take many more.
Although I'd be honest, I rate achievements of players/ managers more when things aren't handed to them on a plate. For example I'd rate him higher had he gone to Real and become the heart beat of their team.
Barca are just an incredible team that it becomes hard to judge their players.
Ibra just has failed miserably in Europe season after season. When the world watches he seems to turn a bit shit. One goal isn't going to change that. It's going to take many more.
Although I'd be honest, I rate achievements of players/ managers more when things aren't handed to them on a plate. For example I'd rate him higher had he gone to Real and become the heart beat of their team.
Barca are just an incredible team that it becomes hard to judge their players.
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