Disappears in the big games 
What a finish!
What a finish!
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Disappears in the big games
What a finish!
Was an easy finish!Still, on as sub, in the right place, and he didn't make any mistake
He's doing well personally. I guess the question for Barca is whether they're as good a team with him up front that with Eto'o last season
Not an awful lot in it
Still, on as sub, in the right place, and he didn't make any mistake
He's doing well personally. I guess the question for Barca is whether they're as good a team with him up front that with Eto'o last season
Not an awful lot in it
Naah, wouldn't call a volley with the weaker foot in full speed burried hard into the side of the goal easy.
We'd have CRUCIFIED him if he misses that. Very simple chance. Then again he was the one who made the run, evading any markers, so full credit
And what the fecks 'in full speed'?!
To be fair to him, Barcelona have looked alot more dangerous since he came on.
Zlatan shits all over Eto'o tbf.
Alas not in a game of 'show us yer trophies' though
The reason why there has been so much debate over Ibra's ability, is his inability to make the difference where it truly counted i.e. against big opposition and in the knockout stages of the Champions League. He has done well to score a goal against Madrid. Let's see how he does in the remaining part of the season at home and in Europe.
Surely you know football is a team sport, right? Unfair to use trophies as a measuring stick.
Erm?!
Europe has been the one that's let him down badly so far. Well that and his international performances at times
He's at Barca now. No excuses any more. And in fairness, he's started well. Perhaps he'll now live up to the over hype of before!
I'm saying Eto'o has the advantage of being in teams that had Ronaldinho and Messi at their best, as well as Xavi, Iniesta, Guily, etc. It's hard not to shine in such an environment, although credit to Eto'o, he wasn't no slacker.
I agree with this.
And yet often that team wouldn't be the same without Eto'o at the head of it. And you can't knock his incredible goalscoring record
It does the Ibrahimovic cause no good to knock the achievements of Eto'o if you ask me. He has the same platform, Barca are the best team in Europe right now, there can be no more excuses. He's started well, but this isn't the time of the season you prove yourself is it?
he's just proved himself in the biggest game in spain coming off the bench (quite understated how difficult it can be).
Surely abit premature to say hes better than Eto'o at his peak and unfair to compare them now as Eto'o is quite clearly past his best.
Great finish though, very hard to put those away on your supposed weaker foot and make it look so easy.
Great finish though, very hard to put those away on your supposed weaker foot and make it look so easy.
Calm down, he's started well this season. He's scored with his first touch and looked decent when came on. He still has a lot to prove in my eyes but obviously talented enough to prove himself.
Ibrahimovich has played in some good Ajax, Juvenuts and Inter sides and those clubs though often stacked came up short in Europe. It's not as if he's had sub-par teammates over the years.
Not sure anybody was doubting he'd prove himself in Spain.
Was a good goal, but if he'd have scored one of his chances against us last season in the champions league I'd rate him higher. Still he had an impact off the bench and won his side the points.
The issue has never been about whether Ibrahimovic was a very good player or not. There were question marks over his character, and also his ability to perform on the biggest stage - namely the European Cup. And of course the strongest leagues in the world, which he'd never played in (Italy being a shadow of its former self)
The problem has been the ridiculous overhype, where some claim he's already proved he's one of the greatest of his generation, or the best striker out there. And he hasn't. Now, eventually, he's starting to put more of a claim together. But we'll only know towards the end of the season, and the next few years
Can't say fairer than scoring the winner against your fiercest rivals though
The problem has been the ridiculous overhype, where some claim he's already proved he's one of the greatest of his generation, or the best striker out there. And he hasn't. Now, eventually, he's starting to put more of a claim together. But we'll only know towards the end of the season, and the next few years
Can't say fairer than scoring the winner against your fiercest rivals though
I tend to agree with that specially after watching Eto'o waste a glorious 1v1 chance against Fiorentina today
Well that's what we've been told
Yet Eto'o scored 36 goals last season, a total Zlatan has never been near in his career, and the small matter of scoring the winner in a European Cup final
I don't watch Italian football so much these days, I'm told he's made a relatively slow start. That can happen when you move countries. His stats still show he's scored 7 in 19, which isn't shoddy, albeit it's not the hit rate he's been achieving during his time at Barca. Early days and all that
So you confess to jerking that knee of yours?
He's actually won a lot of trophies.
I really don't know anymore
.I expected Eto'o to score but he really looks without any sort of confidence, he even let Milito take and score a penaltyHe has indeed. A couple of Dutch titles and a few Italian. A few domestic cups in there for good measure too
Eto'o's have come in arguably the best league in the world at the time though. Three La Liga, and of course, two Champions League
I like Zlatan's style of play, it's what is fun to watch and more effective than some give him credit for. To my mind he's the closest thing to Cantona out there.
Sacrilege!!!
Was hoping that'd get you going. You must see the similarities though? Ridiculously talented with great touch, vision and creative play, lovably arrogant and volatile.I'm not talking to Mike any more
Granted Eto'o has achieved much more in the past but atm it's fairly obvious who's the better one in terms of goals and good performances.
One funny thing about the Zlatan doubting is that there doesnt seem to be a middle ground. He's either shite or if he manages to a few goals in the latter stages of the CL he'll then suddenly become world class in their eyes.
One funny thing about the Zlatan doubting is that there doesnt seem to be a middle ground. He's either shite or if he manages to a few goals in the latter stages of the CL he'll then suddenly become world class in their eyes.
We'd have CRUCIFIED him if he misses that. Very simple chance. Then again he was the one who made the run, evading any markers, so full credit
And what the fecks 'in full speed'?!
That reminds me of two easier chances that Ronaldo and Messi missed! Ronaldo in the first half and Messi's right at the end.
I hate this logic. He could have scored a tap in against United and be 'rated'. I can just imagine him doing some amazing bit of skill, smashing it and it hitting the bar and still be called a bottler, yet tap an empty ball in the net and suddenly you rate him.
Definitely. He's a wonderful player.
There's no doubting the fact that he's more talented than Eto'o if we're going to draw the comparison. Obviously, talent isn't everything, but he's looking excellent at Barcelona and it wouldn't surprise me if he went on to greater heights than Eto'o in this team. This is obviously not to dismiss what he's done, but Ibrahimovic is some player.
It's pointless comparing the two on the basis of current form, though - there's a massive difference between the two, irrespective of whether Eto'o's lost it or just finding his feet in Italy. We'll see what's happening with Eto'o in a few months, but the signs aren't looking great so far.
Sure, if 16 matches over 8 seasons is sudden.
Having a striker who very rarely scores in the last 16 of the champions league is obviously better than having a striker who never, ever, scores in the last 16 of the champions league. It could make all the difference in an important game and as a striker thats a large part of his job. Once he starts doing it you can expect it from him every so often. But the more games he has without managing it, and so far thats been a hell of a lot, the less sure you can be.
Are there any other 'top strikers' who played say 10+ matches in the final stages of the champions league/european cup and never managed a single goal?
Cantona made the whole team tick and everything revolved around him - I see Zlatan as more of an old fashioned centre forward, granted a bloody good one
Spot on. It shows the dumbness of those who can't accept the value of the man's talents.
That's classic Ekeke logic Vuc. You shouldn't be surprised.
Zlatan made the whole Inter team tick. & last night he certainly made Barca tick when he came on. Old fashioned center forward he is not.
Cantona made the whole team tick and everything revolved around him - I see Zlatan as more of an old fashioned centre forward, granted a bloody good one
He is a good player no doubt, the longer he plays for Barcelona the more apparent that will become. Funny how he scored the winner with his first touch and some people still wanted more.
I have never seen him have the type of influence on matches that Cantona used to have for us. Although my view comes mainly from CL, internationals and games for Barca thus far - I dont watch Serie A at all nowadays.
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