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Should we sign Ibra on a free this summer ?


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Since when do the biggest clubs buy with such pragmatism? We had Rooney and still bought RVP. Real Madrid buy anyone they like, who they've already got is of little importance. City have Aguero and still spent £25million on Bony!

If a world class player becomes available the top teams are interested. I had this debate the other day about him joining PSG . Aparently nobody needed a top striker then and here we are again.
We were willing to play with two strikers under SAF, it's a different situation. Plus, Rooney is versatile enough to play different positions. Pretty much every top team is playing with one striker up front these days. Real buy anyone they like but they really don't have a need for a top striker right now, when they already have Benzema (plus Ronaldo & Bale who are scoring goals for fun). Benzema just had his best season at Real, strike rate wise (24 goals in 27 La Liga appearances), why the hell would they go for Zlatan? City already have Aguero (in addition to Bony) and a highly promising young striker in Ilheanacho coming up, why would they go for Zlatan?
 
We were willing to play with two strikers under SAF, it's a different situation. Plus, Rooney is versatile enough to play different positions. Pretty much every top team is playing with one striker up front these days. Real buy anyone they like but they really don't have a need for a top striker right now, when they already have Benzema (plus Ronaldo & Bale who are scoring goals for fun). Benzema just had his best season at Real, strike rate wise (24 goals in 27 La Liga appearances), why the hell would they go for Zlatan? City already have Aguero (in addition to Bony) and a highly promising young striker in Ilheanacho coming up, why would they go for Zlatan?

Because like I said before, if a world class striker becomes available big clubs don't think so pragmatically.

We had Rooney, Welbeck, Kagawa and Hernandez. We were only playing with one proper No.9 at that point, particularly in the big games. We didn't NEED RvP. Still bought him.

Madrid didn't NEED Bale and on and on it goes. There's loads of examples.
 
Usually, as a striker in the front 2 of a diamond, as @Downcast has illustrated in his post.

In terms of their year together, Zlatan was Serie A top scorer and Serie A footballer of the Year under José, aside from being 7th in the 2009 Ballon D'Or, and being named in the 2009 European team of Year. Not too shabby, all things considered. He then joined Barcelona for an exchange deal involving Samuel Eto'o (one of the best all-round forwards in Europe) for a transfer fee of ~€70 million (3rd highest at that time - behind Cristiano to Madrid, and Zidane to Madrid - surpassing Kaká). Internazionale would have been mental to turn Barcelona's massive offer down (they were running on losses, and Zlatan's sale helped boost their 'warchest' - which led to the treble in 2010):

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Their cumulative losses over a ~3 year time-frame exceeded €500 million.

Are they genuine results? Wages & salaries exceeding total revenue 2 years in a row? That is crazy.
 
Because like I said before, if a world class striker becomes available big clubs don't think so pragmatically.

We had Rooney, Welbeck, Kagawa and Hernandez. We were only playing with one proper No.9 at that point, particularly in the big games. We didn't NEED RvP. Still bought him.

Madrid didn't NEED Bale and on and on it goes. There's loads of examples.
Like you said? Am I supposed to keep taking your word over logical reasoning?

Very generous including Welbeck and Kagawa as strikers. SAF had an obsession with strikers and preferred having four solid striker options in the squad. We needed RVP because he was the league's best player and we had just lost the league on goal difference so SAF felt that we needed more goals. Madrid did have need for Bale and adding Bale gave a new dimension to their attack, helping them win the CL.

There are perfectly valid reasons why other big clubs aren't in for Ibra right now. It's not my fault that you choose not to believe them because of your agenda against the player.
 
That's the player he has evolved in to so, yeah. He would drop deep and playmake, bringing the team mates with him to attack together. One-twos, throughballs etc. Arrives in the box late. We'd need a CM that likes to charge forward, like Herrera. Zlatan and Martial would have much fun. Just need to get a RW as well.

The only worry for me actually if Zlatan should sign is how it would impact Martial. Both want to recieve the ball, hog it and create. I fear that they'd get in the way of each other as Martial hasn't shown himself to be an off the ball runner ,like Chicharito for example, and I don't think that Zlatan will want to play second fiddle. I fully agree that we'd need more runs from midfield, and I think that a player like Lingard with his work rate and pace is perfect for that role with Zlatan in the side. He might not be talented enough to be a mainstay though.

Because like I said before, if a world class striker becomes available big clubs don't think so pragmatically.

We had Rooney, Welbeck, Kagawa and Hernandez. We were only playing with one proper No.9 at that point, particularly in the big games. We didn't NEED RvP. Still bought him.

Madrid didn't NEED Bale and on and on it goes. There's loads of examples.

But he did go to a big team though, or the promise of a big team. At the time where he left Milan and Barcelona he had no desire to go to England, he allegedly couldn't join Mourinho at Real beacause of a clause in his contract and I simply think that he was genuinely happy to join PSG and the project they were setting up. Nothing more to it than that.
 
Tell me which European elite club needs a top class striker right now? Barca? Real? Bayern? No. Atletico could use him but can't afford his wages. Same with Arsenal (more like unwilling to pay because they're cheap). Chelsea have Costa, City have Aguero, Dortmund have Auba. Wages too high for Serie A clubs and he has already played there with 3 different top teams. That leaves who...?

Some or all of those reasons could be perfectly plausible mate and i'm not saying i know for certain that they are not. Certainly it's likely in the case of his wages for some clubs like AC, Inter, Atletico etc.

But sides like Real, Barca, Chelsea and even Bayern to an extent don't buy based on what they need. They buy just for the sake of buying a big name some times. Thats how Ibrahimovic ended up at Barca the first time around after all. He was bought in response to Real signing Ronaldo even though he didn't suit their style and they didn't need him, the same way Real signed Bale for a world record fee in response to Barca signing Neymar. Real also signed Rodriguez to replace one of their best players simply to sign a big name Galactico they didn't need him.

If he's still as good as some of you believe (and he may be) then you would imagine the top CL sides would be all over him this summer, especially on a Bosman. We will see, if they are not then i suspect some or all of them might think signing a 35 year old striker on a massive salary isn't the wisest investment.

Just a thought.
 
Some or all of those reasons could be perfectly plausible mate and i'm not saying i know for certain that they are not. Certainly it's likely in the case of his wages for some clubs like AC, Inter, Atletico etc.

But sides like Real, Barca, Chelsea and even Bayern to an extent don't buy based on what they need. They buy just for the sake of buying a big name some times. Thats how Ibrahimovic ended up at Barca the first time around after all. He was bought in response to Real signing Ronaldo even though he didn't suit their style and they didn't need him, the same way Real signed Bale for a world record fee in response to Barca signing Neymar. Real also signed Rodriguez to replace one of their best players simply to sign a big name Galactico they didn't need him.

If he's still as good as some of you believe (and he may be) then you would imagine the top CL sides would be all over him this summer, especially on a Bosman. We will see, if they are not then i suspect some or all of them might think signing a 35 year old striker on a massive salary isn't the wisest investment.

Just a thought.

We're not one of the top CL sides anymore. We're not even in the CL for the 2nd time in 3 years need I remind you? The sides you mentioned already have top strikers and don't need the kind of competition that Zlatan would present. Why would they want to risk upsetting the likes of Lewandowski, Costa, Benzema? Don't know why you even include Barcelona with their history. Our needs are much more dire, none of them need to sign a 35 year old striker for short term success, but we do.
 
Like you said? Am I supposed to keep taking your word over logical reasoning?

Very generous including Welbeck and Kagawa as strikers. SAF had an obsession with strikers and preferred having four solid striker options in the squad. We needed RVP because he was the league's best player and we had just lost the league on goal difference so SAF felt that we needed more goals. Madrid did have need for Bale and adding Bale gave a new dimension to their attack, helping them win the CL.

There are perfectly valid reasons why other big clubs aren't in for Ibra right now. It's not my fault that you choose not to believe them because of your agenda against the player.

You don't need to take my word for it, just look at the transfer record of the big clubs. If you're not having the examples I've already given where was the logic in signing Berbatov, Veron and Falcao. Madrid signing James. Bayern signing Goetze. I could go on. If we needed RVP after losing the title on goal difference then you can't tell me Chelsea, City and Arsenal don't need a world class striker after the seasons they've had.

It's blatantly obvious that when a big player becomes available they often sign them, needed or not. To pretend that isn't true suggests an agenda of your own.
 
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Welcome to Manchester United, Zlatan.

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Number 7 is waiting for you.

Bonus:
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Zlatan: 1 goal (penalty) + 1 assist

57' minute at the moment
 
He wins leagues. Whatever one may have to say about him other than that does not matter much to me.
 
Needs to happen, 1+1 year deal, get us right back up there with mourinho at the helm and 2-3 more signings.
 
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And close to 20 assists too, for a total of ~70 scorers over the season. Third highest in major European leagues behind only Suárez and Ronaldo. José + Zlatan on a Bosman would be an instant upgrade over current management + offensive personnel. :D
 
I challenge anyone to find footage of Zlatan and Cavani looking at eachother when they celebrate a goal together. :lol:

Kenwood juicer up for grabs.
 
Usually wouldnt be a fan of this type of signing, but he's proven again this season that age wont stop him scoring a bucketload.
 
What on earth was that CB playing at? Moved away from Ibra and failed to take a step up.

Shockingly bad.
 
We're not one of the top CL sides anymore. We're not even in the CL for the 2nd time in 3 years need I remind you?

Sorry mate could you point out for me the part of my post where i said United are currently a top side?

The sides you mentioned already have top strikers and don't need the kind of competition that Zlatan would present. Why would they want to risk upsetting the likes of Lewandowski, Costa, Benzema? Don't know why you even include Barcelona with their history. Our needs are much more dire, none of them need to sign a 35 year old striker for short term success, but we do.

So basically your opinion is similar to the one expressed in my last post then.

If he's still as good as some of you believe (and he may be) then you would imagine the top CL sides would be all over him this summer, especially on a Bosman. We will see, if they are not then i suspect some or all of them might think signing a 35 year old striker on a massive salary isn't the wisest investment.

United going by the rumours seem to have no real competition for his signature and trust me it's not because the likes of Real or Chelsea are worried about upsetting a player.

It's because we are probably the only ones willing to pay a 35 year old striker £200-300k pw.
 
50 goals for a 34 year old is pretty impressive, irrespective of which league it was done in.

Agreed i don't rate the french league that highly but i would be impressed if a 34 year old scored that amount in scotland.
 
He'd be good on a 1 year deal, with the option of a further year.

He's an improvement on our inexperienced strikeforce, and can help us back to the top.
 
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