The thing is I'd imagine CL football alone is worthless to him, at this point the CL should only be a factor if he can join a team that has a realistic chance of winning it and I don't see any of them except maybe Juve having any need for him.
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The thing is I'd imagine CL football alone is worthless to him, at this point the CL should only be a factor if he can join a team that has a realistic chance of winning it and I don't see any of them except maybe Juve having any need for him.
See this is the kind of signing Mouriniho would make, where as Poch would not not look at him and would turn Rashford into a top goalscorer.
One has short term benefits, the other long term. But then again how important is the next title post-fergie?
One has short term benefits, the other long term. But then again how important is the next title post-fergie?
I don't really want him. He's been a great player but I don't think he's what we need. He's coming to the end of his career so moving to a tougher league and to a side that's struggling is probably going to accelerate a decline and with his arrogance I'm not sure how it will work. Would rather put faith in Martial & Rashford. If we need to bring in another striker id rather be looking long term.
But surely buying a long term striker would result in Martial and Rashford getting less game time?
Why not Ibra for one or two seasons as not only a mentor for our young lads, but also as an experienced leader for the whole team?
Id be cautions of giving him a 2 year deal if its true he wants £600k a week - thats over £30m a year!
Perhaps a 1+1 deal based on appearences so if the premiership proves too much for him or there is a rapid decline we are not tied into another £30m wages for the second season.
Wouldnt be a bad deal for him either as if it didnt work out after one season he could still get a last mega payday in china or the middle east for another season or two if he wanted it
When you look at the wages and signing on fee he will expect, it's fair to say that this would be far from a bargain free transfer.
I would like to see us sign him though.
Would be nice if we could get a few players of his/Falcao/Schweni in their actual peak years and not when they are past it or bordering.
I would like to see us sign him though.
Would be nice if we could get a few players of his/Falcao/Schweni in their actual peak years and not when they are past it or bordering.
Not our way.. We need to get them before they blow like we always have. i.e. Falcao at Porto.
Let's be honest here United aren't paying a 35 year old £600k pw, neither is any other club with sense.
And i agree a 2 year deal is a massive risk for me also as theres no way he is maintaining current performance levels until the age of 36, a 1 year pay as you play deal if his salary expectations were realistic enough and i would be all for us signing him.
Paul Clement was just on fantasy football talking about him. Said he was expecting him to be a nightmare but was in fact the opposite.
I really think getting him in is a no brainer IF Rooney was expendable. Having both him and Rooney as guaranteed starters leaves little room for Rashford, who I'd rather be getting games for us.
Rooney's the right age for us in terms of blooding in a young striker, to be honest. Because we play with only one up top, a 31 year old striker as the main goalscorer with a couple of young strikers as squad players is the ideal situation. Of course, it would help if that 31 year old striker was actually of some quality, eh?
Rooney's the right age for us in terms of blooding in a young striker, to be honest. Because we play with only one up top, a 31 year old striker as the main goalscorer with a couple of young strikers as squad players is the ideal situation. Of course, it would help if that 31 year old striker was actually of some quality, eh?
Best way to do it is one year pay as you play with significant bonuses - as in 200k/week wages which get retroactively upgraded based on scoring 25, 30, 35 goals etc. So lets say he gets 25, the wages go to 300, if he gets 30, they go to 350, if he gets 35 then 400 etc. Those are just arbitrary numbers, but you get the point.
Yep, would rather see Rashford and Martial up-front than Ibra. I really like him as a player, but he's too old now IMO, replacing striker who's 30 with another who's 34, not a wise move no matter how you look at it.
He would add a bit of glamour back to the club. Right now, the team is about as glamorous as Everton or West Ham's.
Yeah definitely any wages north of £150-200k should be appearance and performance based. Would be silly of us to give a 35 year old a flat £300k pw 2 year deal.
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Huh? That's not Zlatan...
Ahh I was very much for this transfer, but can see him blocking time that Rashford could get. I'd rather someone like Lacazette who can be versatile in that front 3.
Ibra won't block anything assuming that he'll come here for two years. By that stage, Rashford would still be only 20. Until then, he gets rotated with Ibra, playing mostly on Europa League and Domestic Cups.
It is important to not overplay Rashford.
Ibrahimovic being rotated? You're having a laugh
Yeah, I'm with @Adisa, he won't come here to be rotated and I don't think Rashford would get enough games if he was part of a rotation with someone as quality as Ibra. He's been starting every game for us, I'm not sure you can just drop him to the bench after helping us out in 3 of our biggest games this year.
And building a team long term is not about buying 18 year olds and let them gel together for 5-10 years to eventually become a strong team. Every team will need to add something to the mix each season, and that also includes older players. It's only in the video games you're able to do stuff like that.
And on top of that I don't think people realize just how long time 2-3 years is in football. Having a player stay longer than that is not very normal. They usually move on long before you reach your 5 year plan. If you go back 3-4 years and compare the players playing in the team then to the guys we got now it will be quite obvious.
At his age, I think he'd be willing to accept it for lower profile games, he's not that stupid.
I don't think age has anything to do with it. It's all about his ego. His ego won't allow it. I also don't know why you would pay a 35/36 since it's a two year Contract around £400,000 a week to then be ratating him. Italian media even say he wants £650,000 a week. He has a £1.25m a week offer from China.
Rotating in like not playing in Carling Cup and Europa League group matches. And in matches he gets tired.
10 starts + 15 times as sub will be enough for Rashford next season. With near 60 matches that we may have, that isn't going to be difficult, even with Ibra playing most of the time.
Age is definitely a factor, Ibra has talked about taking better care of his body as he is getting older. Besides at his age, he is bound to pick up at least some minor injuries or knocks that will make him miss some games. There is no way he is going to be playing 50+ games.
Every top team needs 4 top strikers.
When we won the CL in 1999: SolkJaer, Yorke, Cole, Sherringham. And they all got plenty of game time (including the CL final).
At present we have 2 good strikers (Rashford, Martial), so we still have room for 2 new strikers. Rooney is on his way out (age, ability, etc).
That is completely wrong.. You dont need 4 top strikers at all
We used to play with 2 strikers (442 formation). Now we just play with 1, so I guess that's why Martial, Rashford and Rooney are our main strikers. But we still need more striker that can score 20+ goals. Mainly because Martial is playing on the left, Rashford is just 18 and as you mentioned Rooney is not reliable anymore to be our 1st option.
he's a cnut who isn't worth anywhere near the wages being reported. Can we close this thread, and move it to the muppets forum?
Wages reported by crap sources, yet people are so quick to believe those crap sources when it suits their agenda. And why should this thread be closed? You know you can always simply ignore it.
Close the thread because 31 pages is enough, we simply shouldn't sign him.
2 goals tonight. But i suppose it's just against a shitty Ligue 1 side so it doesn't count.
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Agree
He has more league goals than he has thread pages on the Caf.
Not enough hype. Do not want.
And you're contributing to it by making these posts.
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Have you seen Lacazette play wide then? People seem to think just cos you are fast you should be able to play on the wings smh.
Well that's not what I said, but I was under the impression he started as a right winger when he first came through. Maybe I'm mistaken.
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