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Samid said:
BREAKING: United medical will be done once Sweden are knocked out (Sky Sources).
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Excellent, here's hoping they get smashed in their next two games :drool:
 
Well that should be that then! Can't wait to see the Mourinho/Ibrahimovic partnership at United. Reminds me slightly of Fergie and Cantona :drool:

Hopefully Italy and Belgium batter them.
 
IgnorantLobster said:
Well that should be that then! Can't wait to see the Mourinho/Ibrahimovic partnership at United. Reminds me slightly of Fergie and Cantona :drool:

Hopefully Italy and Belgium batter them.
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After watching Italy yesterday, Sweden dont have a chance against them
 
Red Stone said:
Overestimating Italy and Belgium there. Belgium look like a poor team filled with great individuals, while Italy will miss their best midfielders. They don't really have anything special going forward either.
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Dude, Italy (like Germany, Brazil, Spain), regardless of the players they use, will always be regarded as one of the favourites.
These teams know how to go far in tournaments.
 
The Bayern link was bullshit. His high wages and especially Lewandowski meant he was never going there. Seems like the Ancelotti link was the reason the journalist said 'he could move to Bayern, Ancelotti loves him bla bla'.
 
Twigginater said:
I mean yes. That is how I feel. I don't think that is a ridiculous stance either really.
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In a way it is though. There is nothing to suggest he's declining. I mean you could reasonably argue that he's 35 and he no one goes on forever so he might decline, but there is nothing to suggest the fall has come yet.

Just looking at his league stats:
2015/16- PSG: 29 starts, 2 subs- 38 goals+13 assists
2014/15- PSG: 23 starts, 1 sub- 19 goals+6 assists
2013/14- PSG: 32 starts, 1 sub- 26 goals+11 assists
2012/13- PSG: 30 starts, 1 sub- 30 goals+8 assists
2011/12- AC Milan: 32 starts- 28 goals+6 assists
2010/11- AC Milan: 29 starts- 14 goals+11 assists
2009/10- FC Barcelona: 23 starts, 6 subs- 16 goals+7 assists

Those are fairly stable numbers over a 7 year period. I mean they actually show an upturn in the past 4-5 years but, you know, we're not allowed to say anything good about the French League where his numbers improved. They also show that his much maligned Barcelona stint wasn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be; the only problem was that he fell out with Pep.

Let's put this right, signing Zlatan is a big risk: he's never played in the Premier League before and like many big money foreign signings, may take time to adapt; unfortunately, time is not on his side. Also, it must be said that currently, we as ateamstruggleto create chances, or atleast have for the past 3 years. So, signing Zlatan and expecting our attack to be magically fixed because he score goals isn't realistic. We have a lot of areas of improvement, not least the wide right position, and a general lack of pace and running ability in attack. Another obvious red flag is that our big name signings (Falcao, di Maria, Schweinsteiger) haven't been successful in recent years. The only success story on that front is Robin van Persie and even he only worked out for one season.

But the flipside is that there is also potentially a BIG reward if it works out: Zlatan scores goals and, judging by the assist stats, also creates quite a few. If we can get the balance of our team right, i.e get the right players in the transfer window to surround Zlatan with, he could be the talisman who gets us right back in the title hunt. Plus, the manager has already worked with him before and they both speak very highly of each other; so you'd trust Mourinho to know how to get the best out of him. And ultimately, Zlatan is a winner. For all his arrogance, and playing up to the 'Zlatan is superman' narrative, he has the highest standards for himself, and expects nothing less from his team mates. Much like Sir Alex, Roy Keane or Eric Cantona, Zlatan (and Jose for that matter) won't accept second best, or folding in the manner we did against West Ham in a must win game.

It's a big risk, but potentially an even bigger reward. And considering we are lacks ng quality in attack, the fact that he comes without a transfer fee is surely a positive because we can invest more freely in other areas. Fact is, I doubt there is anyone here who wants Zlatan over Aubameyang,Bale or Neymar, but the point is that we aren't in the Champions League and these players all play in MUCH better teams than us. They have no incentive (Aubameyang may be tempted by money but again, if he decides to move, there are plenty of better teams who can match what we can offer and supplement it with the chance for CL glory) to move to United. And even if they were to move, they would costbig transfer fees to go with roughly the same wages as Zlatan, which may compromise our ability to spend in other areas. It's a risk, but given our situation, it's probably worth taking.
 
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I mean they actually show an upturn in the past 4-5 years but, ...
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Well, in his interview, he said previously he rated himself 10/10, but now he is 11/10, so in his opinion he is a better player now, than he was a few years ago.
Those numbers do back this up.
 
SomeRandomPerson said:
In a way it is though. There is nothing to suggest he's declining. I mean you could reasonably argue that he's 35 and he no one goes on forever so he might decline, but there is nothing to suggest the fall has come yet.

Just looking at his league stats:
2015/16- PSG: 29 starts, 2 subs- 38 goals+13 assists
2014/15- PSG: 23 starts, 1 sub- 19 goals+6 assists
2013/14- PSG: 32 starts, 1 sub- 26 goals+11 assists
2012/13- PSG: 30 starts, 1 sub- 30 goals+8 assists
2011/12- AC Milan: 32 starts- 28 goals+6 assists
2010/11- AC Milan: 29 starts- 14 goals+11 assists
2009/10- FC Barcelona: 23 starts, 6 subs- 16 goals+7 assists

Those are fairly stable numbers over a 7 year period. I mean they actually show an upturn in the past 4-5 years but, you know, we're not allowed to say anything good about the French League where his numbers improved. They also show that his much maligned Barcelona stint wasn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be; the only problem was that he fell out with Pep.

Let's put this right, signing Zlatan is a big risk: he's never played in the Premier League before and like many big money foreign signings, may take time to adapt; unfortunately, time is not on his side. Also, it must be said that currently, we as ateamstruggleto create chances, or atleast have for the past 3 years. So, signing Zlatan and expecting our attack to be magically fixed because he score goals isn't realistic. We have a lot of areas of improvement, not least the wide right position, and a general lack of pace and running ability in attack. Another obvious red flag is that our big name signings (Falcao, di Maria, Schweinsteiger) haven't been successful in recent years. The only success story on that front is Robin van Persie and even he only worked out for one season.

But the flipside is that there is also potentially a BIG reward if it works out: Zlatan scores goals and, judging by the assist stats, also creates quite a few. If we can get the balance of our team right, i.e get the right players in the transfer window to surround Zlatan with, he could be the talisman who gets us right back in the title hunt. Plus, the manager has already worked with him before and they both speak very highly of each other; so you'd trust Mourinho to know how to get the best out of him. And ultimately, Zlatan is a winner. For all his arrogance, and playing up to the 'Zlatan is superman' narrative, he has the highest standards for himself, and expects nothing less from his team mates. Much like Sir Alex, Roy Keane or Eric Cantona, Zlatan (and Jose for that matter) won't accept second best, or folding in the manner we did against West Ham in a must win game.

It's a big risk, but potentially an even bigger reward. And considering we are lacks ng quality in attack, the fact that he comes without a transfer fee is surely a positive because we can invest more freely in other areas. Fact is, I doubt there is anyone here who wants Zlatan over Aubameyang,Bale or Neymar, but the point is that we aren't in the Champions League and these players all play in MUCH better teams than us. They have no incentive (Aubameyang may be tempted by money but again, if he decides to move, there are plenty of better teams who can match what we can offer and supplement it with the chance for CL glory) to move to United. And even if they were to move, they would costbig transfer fees to go with roughly the same wages as Zlatan, which may compromise our ability to spend in other areas. It's a risk, but given our situation, it's probably worth taking.
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Good post. I really liked that.
 
It's from Any Burton, I don't think Sky are wrong this time.

Super excited!
 
Even under the worse case scenario - its a good transfer.

-He'll sell huge amounts of shirts.
-Young players will thrive on his experience.
-His name will attract players to sign for us alone.
-Gives us a much needed aerial presence up front.
 
Roux said:
Even under the worse case scenario - its a good transfer.

-He'll sell huge amounts of shirts.
-Young players will thrive on his experience.
-His name will attract players to sign for us alone.
-Gives us a much needed aerial presence up front.
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And the pelanties.
 
SomeRandomPerson said:
In a way it is though. There is nothing to suggest he's declining. I mean you could reasonably argue that he's 35 and he no one goes on forever so he might decline, but there is nothing to suggest the fall has come yet.

Just looking at his league stats:
2015/16- PSG: 29 starts, 2 subs- 38 goals+13 assists
2014/15- PSG: 23 starts, 1 sub- 19 goals+6 assists
2013/14- PSG: 32 starts, 1 sub- 26 goals+11 assists
2012/13- PSG: 30 starts, 1 sub- 30 goals+8 assists
2011/12- AC Milan: 32 starts- 28 goals+6 assists
2010/11- AC Milan: 29 starts- 14 goals+11 assists
2009/10- FC Barcelona: 23 starts, 6 subs- 16 goals+7 assists

Those are fairly stable numbers over a 7 year period. I mean they actually show an upturn in the past 4-5 years but, you know, we're not allowed to say anything good about the French League where his numbers improved. They also show that his much maligned Barcelona stint wasn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be; the only problem was that he fell out with Pep.

Let's put this right, signing Zlatan is a big risk: he's never played in the Premier League before and like many big money foreign signings, may take time to adapt; unfortunately, time is not on his side. Also, it must be said that currently, we as ateamstruggleto create chances, or atleast have for the past 3 years. So, signing Zlatan and expecting our attack to be magically fixed because he score goals isn't realistic. We have a lot of areas of improvement, not least the wide right position, and a general lack of pace and running ability in attack. Another obvious red flag is that our big name signings (Falcao, di Maria, Schweinsteiger) haven't been successful in recent years. The only success story on that front is Robin van Persie and even he only worked out for one season.

But the flipside is that there is also potentially a BIG reward if it works out: Zlatan scores goals and, judging by the assist stats, also creates quite a few. If we can get the balance of our team right, i.e get the right players in the transfer window to surround Zlatan with, he could be the talisman who gets us right back in the title hunt. Plus, the manager has already worked with him before and they both speak very highly of each other; so you'd trust Mourinho to know how to get the best out of him. And ultimately, Zlatan is a winner. For all his arrogance, and playing up to the 'Zlatan is superman' narrative, he has the highest standards for himself, and expects nothing less from his team mates. Much like Sir Alex, Roy Keane or Eric Cantona, Zlatan (and Jose for that matter) won't accept second best, or folding in the manner we did against West Ham in a must win game.

It's a big risk, but potentially an even bigger reward. And considering we are lacks ng quality in attack, the fact that he comes without a transfer fee is surely a positive because we can invest more freely in other areas. Fact is, I doubt there is anyone here who wants Zlatan over Aubameyang,Bale or Neymar, but the point is that we aren't in the Champions League and these players all play in MUCH better teams than us. They have no incentive (Aubameyang may be tempted by money but again, if he decides to move, there are plenty of better teams who can match what we can offer and supplement it with the chance for CL glory) to move to United. And even if they were to move, they would costbig transfer fees to go with roughly the same wages as Zlatan, which may compromise our ability to spend in other areas. It's a risk, but given our situation, it's probably worth taking.
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Good post!
 
EyeInTheSky said:
Can you imagine the look he will give Matta on the training pitch the day after reading his usual lame blog of excuses about "we lost again but we are working hard in training" :lol:
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Leave Juan out of it. He's too pure for this world. What's wrong with you
 
Can't believe people are still saying he may flop, it's nothing liked the Falcao deal which I think some people are comparing it to, yeah he's old but he's still one of the fittest and best footballers around. The simple fact is when he signs he is the best outfield player at the club (along with martial) and why would anyone not want that?


You can quote me he will get 20+ goals next season, I'm certain.
 
Isn't the only possible criticism at this stage that he might be a flat track bully? I don't agree, but even if that's correct, is that such a big deal? We don't have a single bully, flat track or otherwise, in our side. If he puts the smaller sides to the sword we'll probably finish in the top 4 anyway, which will allow us to buy another striker the following summer anyway.
 
He still managed to skin that Irish defender and use his Jedi mind control tricks to make the other Irish defender score a fantastic diving header for Sweden.

There is life in the old dog yet.
 
If not for the footballing reason, Zlatan (+Mourinho) will make us more attractive for other players to come here! And for marketing reason he must be a wet dream for Woodward.
 
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