Zidane had a ready-made team full of superstars, albeit underperforming, in their peaks of their careers. I don't think the same applies to United.
He was one of the people building that ready made team, it was his former job.
Zidane had a ready-made team full of superstars, albeit underperforming, in their peaks of their careers. I don't think the same applies to United.
Hard to understand him when they’re in Newcastle.Oh no, Maguire and AWB won't understand him. What a shame..
Oh ok, cool. Are those currently unemployed?He brought them, the first two are friends, Pintus was at Juventus in the 90s and I don't know why he picked Dupont. And I assume that Bettoni and Msaidie will follow him wherever he goes.
Zidane had a ready-made team full of superstars, albeit underperforming, in their peaks of their careers. I don't think the same applies to United.
Oh ok, cool. Are those currently unemployed?
No, they're his staff. Yes i imagine he would bring his staff with himDid he bring those coaches into Madrid or were they already there?
If he came here, would he have his own staff brought in en masse?
Pintus was rehired because the players, the president and the tea lady wanted him back, because he's exceptional. He was kind of imposed on Ancelotti actually, whose son does the same job...Pintus was rehired by Ancelotti, Msaidie is still at Madrid but his contract ends this summer and Bettoni left.
Ok. Thanks!Pintus was rehired by Ancelotti, Msaidie is still at Madrid but his contract ends this summer and Bettoni left.
Ah balls, so the main coach is at odds with Zizou and not likely to come if we manage to hire him?No, they're his staff. Yes i imagine he would bring his staff with him
It's unfortunate he had a falling out with Pintus btw, as Dupont didn't impress in madrid(whereas Pintus is a bloody genius...Conte snapped him up for inter as soon as he left us, and they won the league...)
Pintus was rehired because the players, the president and the tea lady wanted him back, because he's exceptional. He was kind of imposed on Ancelotti actually, whose son does the same job...
Depends on him, the players like him a lot, but i think if Zidane gets a new job and calls him he goesI know, he was a club and fan favorite. I knew about him at Juventus, iirc he was one of the elite coaches that were in Serie B with Deschamps?
Also what are these stories about Msaidie also being adored, is he going to be extended?
Ok. Doesn't sound good or redeemable, unfortunately for us (supposing we hire Zidane), but thanks for the info.Depends on him, the players like him a lot, but i think if Zidane gets a new job and calls him he goes
Don't know if the club wants to extend him or not though
@Fortitude there is no chance of us letting him leave of our own will. But if he wants to leave, it'd make no sense to keep him. Thing is, he and Zidane had a fight, that's why he left in the first place back in 2019 and Zizou had to bring in Dupont
I have the same thoughts. Yes he won 3 CLs, but his players were exceptional. I dont doubt he has the ability, but who has he actually coached to be better. (Genuine question since I dont watch Spanish league)What squad building did he do at Real? Look at the players he purchased, it doesn't make for pretty reading https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/zinedine-zidane/spielertransfers/trainer/21284
Im not hating on the guy but I'm skeptical how much coaching or tactical ability really goes into playing that team he had in their primes in a 4-3-3. Hell I think even Ole would struggle to screw that up. As ive said he could turn out good but hes massively risky for is.
I have the same thoughts. Yes he won 3 CLs, but his players were exceptional. I dont doubt he has the ability, but who has he actually coached to be better. (Genuine question since I dont watch Spanish league)
And this info on his transfers is tragic.
Well tbh just everyone apart from Ronaldo, especially judging by the fact when Zidane/Ronaldo left they had to sack the new manager (and the one after him) because of poor performances.I have the same thoughts. Yes he won 3 CLs, but his players were exceptional. I dont doubt he has the ability, but who has he actually coached to be better. (Genuine question since I dont watch Spanish league)
And this info on his transfers is tragic.
Zidane is not really responsible for transfers at Real Madrid as manager and this transfer list is misleading.And this info on his transfers is tragic.
Defence and midfield is very poor currently, he’ll have to be able to get the back 4 sorted.We really do though. We're loaded with top class international players.
We finished 2nd last year, and added Varne, Sancho & Ronaldo. There's very little wrong with the squad that a top class manager can't fix.
Or, the interim manager (if not Carrick) will come in and have a clause where it becomes permanent if he gets top 4, or wins a cup. So i wouldnt say it suggests your target is only available in the summer.It sounds like we are waiting until the summer right?
Hopefully that means we can go for Zidane or Ten Hag.
They didWhen Pep left Barca, would people argue "he only managed stars at Barca. Do not want!!"?
So we're looking for a manager profile that good at smaller club, and fail at big club, like Thucel before Chelsea?
It's ridiculousWhen Pep left Barca, would people argue "he only managed stars at Barca. Do not want!!"?
So we're looking for a manager profile that good at smaller club, and fail at big club, like Thucel before Chelsea?
I have the same thoughts. Yes he won 3 CLs, but his players were exceptional. I dont doubt he has the ability, but who has he actually coached to be better. (Genuine question since I dont watch Spanish league)
And this info on his transfers is tragic.
So we can only hire managers with an affiliation with the club?Zidane has no affiliation with Man Utd and never showed any interest in playing in England. I don't see this ever happening.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he's got no interest in the slightest coming here.So we can only hire managers with an affiliation with the club?
Your reasoning didnt make much senseThat's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he's got no interest in the slightest coming here.
Reminds me of that Bulgarian report of when we signed Berbatov, good times.Cock and balls out!
Makes sense to me...Your reasoning didnt make much sense
A guy I played rugby with spent some time playing in France. He told me about the time he had a chat with Zidane, he said he was interested in England ......and Liverpool.Zidane has no affiliation with Man Utd and never showed any interest in playing in England. I don't see this ever happening.
Maybe his missus will change her mind about living in uk by then and he will have learnt english?Not sure why people believe this is still happening. The club are committing to an interim until the end of the season. Why would Zidane be more likely in the summer? He either wants it now, or not at all. I'd rather not indulge him.
Not sure why people believe this is still happening. The club are committing to an interim until the end of the season. Why would Zidane be more likely in the summer? He either wants it now, or not at all. I'd rather not indulge him.
When Pep left Barca, would people argue "he only managed stars at Barca. Do not want!!"?
So we're looking for a manager profile that good at smaller club, and fail at big club, like Thucel before Chelsea?
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he's got no interest in the slightest coming here.
I think it's a bit fanciful. My main gripe with it is that he won't commit to it now, whilst unemployed. Doesn't paint a great picture.Maybe his missus will change her mind about living in uk by then and he will have learnt english?
Thanks for this. Wasn't aware.Apprantly he promised his wife a year off. Make of that what you will.
That is true, I personally dont think hes the right manager for Utd. But he will definitely tick the box for social media rubbish that the club seniors love.I think it's a bit fanciful. My main gripe with it is that he won't commit to it now, whilst unemployed. Doesn't paint a great picture.