I think you're confusing us with Spurs.
Yohan Cabaye
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People are starting to move onto this now the Thiago saga seems done with.
Don't believe it, a few people were tweeting that Cabaye would be a decent option and now people with a few thousand followers between them are starting to say we're going to bid for him.
Be prepared for more muppetry madness.
I think he's actually a good prospect, liked the look of him at Newcastle but not so sure on the price. Think if we could shave £5m off his asking price it would be a decent solution for the next few seasons.
Don't believe it, a few people were tweeting that Cabaye would be a decent option and now people with a few thousand followers between them are starting to say we're going to bid for him.
Be prepared for more muppetry madness.
I think he's actually a good prospect, liked the look of him at Newcastle but not so sure on the price. Think if we could shave £5m off his asking price it would be a decent solution for the next few seasons.
Would only ever be a good 'squad' player at best and certainly won't be worth the £15m to £20m that Newcastle will inevitability ask for. No thanks.
Even if it's a choice of him vs Fellaini? Him vs being thin in midfield until at least Jan?
I would rather we didn't spunk that kind of money on a squad player like Cabaye. I should hope it never comes down to some bizarre option between Cabaye and Fellaini; if I was pushed, I would have to go with Cabaye.
If we are going to spend money on a midfielder to be a 'squad' player, I would rather test Wigan out and see if we could get McCarthy for in-and-around the £10m mark and maybe throw a loan deal in there too.
Cabaye 'squad player' but McCarthy isn't?
I don't really get this McCarthy stuff, he had a decent final few games for Wigan where he was getting talked up on MOTD. Can't really see what he would bring to the table to be honest. Fail to see how he's better than what we have available, would rather give Powell a start than buy him.
I'd rather pass on this one. Nowhere near good enough unless purely a backup.
They would both be 'squad' players. I'm not blowing McCarthys trumpet here, btw. I don't rate Cabaye whatsoever and I don't see the hype around him at all. Massively overrated by some on here as was Tiote last season.
'If' we were looking at a squad player for our midfield, and McCarthy was available for in-and-around the £10m mark, then yeah, I would much rather him than Cabaye. For what it's worth, I don't see us signing eitehr of them.
To be honest i don't think it will happen but with a seeming lack of quality out there i think the rumours for this and Fellaini will continue to grow.
He's better than some here seem to be giving him credit for. French International, good range of passing. I'd take him for a reasonable price and I think he'd definitely improve our strength in midfield.
Not sure if he'd displace Cleverley but he'd be a great option as back-up to Carrick, and would improve our overall depth in midfield, which is abysmal at the moment.
He'd compete with Cleverley and Anderson for a starting place and would most likely start over both of them.
He'd not be a huge upgrade, but he would give us some consistency in cm and an option which hopefully isn't injured all the time.
He'd not be a huge upgrade, but he would give us some consistency in cm and an option which hopefully isn't injured all the time.
I think he's better than Clev's at the mo. It's hard to justify without the good ol' youtube clip though. Always annoying when people make videos of midfielders scoring their 3 or 4 goals a season rather than what they actually do in the game. Unless there was no footage of him doing anything of note 
feck it, I'll take him.
He's weirdly under rated on here. Probably because he had a very inconsistent season due to that long lay off.
He'd walk into our first team. He's an upgrade on everything bar Carrick and he has that bit of attitude that Carrick lacks.
He'd walk into our first team. He's an upgrade on everything bar Carrick and he has that bit of attitude that Carrick lacks.
He would definitely displace Clev, last year was a dip on his 11/12 form but he would still be a clear upgrade.
Cabaye's 27, McCarthy's 22. I think the latter is still improving and has a fantastic game head. Cabaye will never be a starter at top 4 level, McCarthy shows every sign of getting there.
Why? Because a few pundits thought he had a good few last games of the season? What's he shown to suggest he's gonna be a top talent? Not a lot in my opinion.
I'd like McCarthy as well personally but he's not ready to be a first teamer yet. I'd like Cabaye and McCarthy personally. 1 for the present and 1 waiting in the wings.
I'd take McCarthy over both Fellaini and Cabaye. Fantastic player who's only going to get better
Man this is what it's come to. A midfielder who was relegated with Wigan and has shown absolutely zero to suggest he's anything but an average player is now being seen as a viable solution.
Have we really gone from Hazard, Moura, Ozil, Modric, Sneijder to McCarthy? Really?
Have we really gone from Hazard, Moura, Ozil, Modric, Sneijder to McCarthy? Really?
I don't care what the cnuts on TV say, I've seen McCarthy improve into a very capable CM over the last two years and would expect more progression at a top club.
McCarthy's got everything you want from a midfielder. Impressed initially in Wigan as an attacking midfielder type with his dribbling and crisp passing and he's gradually dropped back into a deeper role where he's shown he has plenty of defensive nous too. Do you really think people only started talking about McCarthy at the end of this season?
There was a thread on him in the newbies and the mains back in 2010.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/james-mccarthy.288264/
There was a thread on him in the newbies and the mains back in 2010.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/james-mccarthy.288264/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/james-mccarthy.288266/
Is this a serious post?
Being interested in McCarthy wouldn't translate into not being in top talents anymore. Too many caftards see things in black and white only. We could sign McCarthy and attempt to get other (more flashy) names.
McCarthy? Never really thought about it, but yeah - why not? If he's available, sign him up, Dave. He looks decent to me - and he could well take further steps at a bigger stage. It's not a bad idea at all, actually.
He's not Spanish, though. That will be a major turn-off for many of us, I'm sure.
He's not Spanish, though. That will be a major turn-off for many of us, I'm sure.
Is there anything to suggest we're interested in McCarthy? It seems like nothing but a Caf bandwagon to me.
I wouldn't complain though, he's a CM, he can last 90 minutes and can pass the ball. That should be good enough to get into Manchester United's midfield.
I wouldn't complain though, he's a CM, he can last 90 minutes and can pass the ball. That should be good enough to get into Manchester United's midfield.
No I don't think so. It's more just been various discussions that he's someone we should at least be looking at.
Young, talented and British (sic). Textbook United signing.
Yeh but you're missing the point.
A lot of people are saying we 'miss out on world class midfielders every year' and their solution is to get someone who 'could develop' into something. What's the point in signing yet another person with 'potential' who may not ever realise it? We have Cleverley, Powell and a few kids in the reserves who we can chuck into the fray if we want someone with 'promise'. We don't need promise or potential, we need someone who can do the job NOW. Thiago would have done the job now, Cabaye can do the job now, so can a few others.
That's rubbish - Cabaye is about the same level as McCarthy but isn't going to get any better, Thiago isn't a CM but an AM, Cleverley is soon 24 and hasn't stepped up, Powell is a youth team player.
Cabaye is better than McCarthy and could find another level or 2 quite easily at a top side.
We'll never find out since no top team is going to buy him. McCarthy on the other hand...
Agreed on everything except that Thiago is more than capable of playing as a CM (his defensive stats for last season will show you why if you haven't watched him) and Powell in my opinion looks far more of an AM than a CM.
I wouldn't go that far but it's definitely not great. Roy Keane in particular likes the comment about being relegated...
No what's funnier is that we've gone from someone made in the mould of Xavi, to McCarthy who currently plays in the Championship for Wigan.
If you think that's a decent swap/solution then fair play to you. I personally think we should be aiming higher.
For me, he's done absolutely ZERO to prove he's ever going to be in the same class as some of the midfielders we've missed out on in the last few years, but i'm obviously full of shit, so we'll leave it there.
If you think that's a decent swap/solution then fair play to you. I personally think we should be aiming higher.
For me, he's done absolutely ZERO to prove he's ever going to be in the same class as some of the midfielders we've missed out on in the last few years, but i'm obviously full of shit, so we'll leave it there.
I don't think signing McCarthy would be a bad idea, and I doubt much of our fans think so either. I think the malcontempt comes from the fact that we've gone so long without a real CM signing, and so many were getting their hopes up considering the Thiago-saga, a player of pure european top class, in that area.
McCarthy as of now is a work in progress, someone who might go on to be a very good midfielder (although in my opinion he'll never be a dominating CM in this league, merely a very good one) and people want something more than that. They want a gamechanger in CM, our midfield has yearned for it for years. I don't blame them.
On topic though, Cabaye is not the solution.
McCarthy as of now is a work in progress, someone who might go on to be a very good midfielder (although in my opinion he'll never be a dominating CM in this league, merely a very good one) and people want something more than that. They want a gamechanger in CM, our midfield has yearned for it for years. I don't blame them.
On topic though, Cabaye is not the solution.
I wouldn't miss the point if you would have clearly expressed it. No wonder a lot of people are quoting you in disagreement. Btw, I would put in the class of midfielders who would be able to do a job now and with the potential to get a lot better.
The club has tried to buy top class players but with the way football is, it's just not enough to be Man Utd anymore, if we cannot sign those marquee players, why not look for other (cheaper) options ?
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