How have we 'fallen behing Arsenal in the pecking order?'
Based on a report in The Sun?
Have you considered that we may just not want the player?
Yoann Gourcuff
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
How have we 'fallen behing Arsenal in the pecking order?'
Based on a report in The Sun?
Have you considered that we may just not want the player?
Shh don't take sense mate. Let him commit his muppet suicide
I was thinking about it recently, the answer is obvious, United don't have much cash at the moment, mainly down to the owners being cheap and the club being skint. If they put cash forward they will more than likely get the player of their choosing, the thing is it atm it would put United in a 1v1 bid v someone else who wants him which would draw United in to spend more.
David Gill says United have 95 million rupees to spare. No worry.
The level of panic and paranoia is reaching epic proportions. It's a potentially explosive cocktail, and I genuinely fear for some people if we don't sign half of the Spain squad in the next few days, which of course we won't do.
Half of the Caf could off themselves, and the other half end up in hospital with critically high blood pressure, and it won't make a blind bit of difference to who we sign, how much we spend, and when we spend it. These things aren't worth worrying about, precisely because there's nothing that any of us can do to influence it.
The ownership of the club, on the other hand, is something that we certainly can influence.
Half of the Caf could off themselves, and the other half end up in hospital with critically high blood pressure, and it won't make a blind bit of difference to who we sign, how much we spend, and when we spend it. These things aren't worth worrying about, precisely because there's nothing that any of us can do to influence it.
The ownership of the club, on the other hand, is something that we certainly can influence.
We've spent 40 million in the past year alone. We have the transfer budget.
Plus calling us skint as compared to Arsenal based on a report in The Sun for a players we've hardly shown interest in is muppetry of the highest order.
Wait until he finds out that MK Dons have signed Lewis Guy from Doncaster Rovers on a free transfer.
One laughing smiley is not enough.It deserves a lot more
Yup pretty much fecked that one up as well.
I'm still drinking my first coffee of the morning, don't have that many lols in me.
First Arsenal, now wimbledon, were doooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeed!!!!!
For the love of god... please sign Gourcuff 
Wheres that kid that had that "please sign Rooney sign ? "
It's time for please sign Gourcuff...
Wheres that kid that had that "please sign Rooney sign ? "
It's time for please sign Gourcuff...
Dont think we have a chance of signing this lad and Im glad tbh. Im not convinced that he'd adapt. Ive watched him struggle when constantly hounded by average midfield workhorses.
Im not that bothered about Gourcuff, loads of talent but not sure hes the player many on here think he is, very much a 'when the goings good' type of player, bit of a luxary.
Glad someone else feels the same. Something missing with him that i cant just put my finger on. No fire in his belly at all.
I've been saying it for months, he's not the type of player we need or half the folks on here believe he is. Would be a great luxury player in the Berbatov mold.
Now youve done it! how dare you mention Gourcuff and the Anti-Christ in the same sentance!
Done it before. I scoff at the caf lore.
I think we need some top talents now. We've got plenty of players who could possibly do a job. Hernandez looks to be that kind of player, someone who will get into good positions and finishes well. Valencia is a good player, Carrick is a good player, Fletcher is a good etc etc. The only one whose top quality in midfield and attack is Rooney. Nani can get there as well, albiet a level below Rooney, but still has some way to go. But at least he has the talent. We need one or two more who have are blatantly and obvious to the eye, talented enough to be top drawer and not too far from it either.
Yes.
Is Gourcuff a top drawer talent?
The few times I've seen him he's looked it. But I haven't seen enough.
The thing about everyone harping this is that they really don't know what the situation in training is and yet are willing to speculate purely on basis of conjecture. Don't you think SAF and the coaching team realise we've looked blunt at times? He has mentioned it too. Yet, we really seem to be going for these 'can do the job' players for a reason. Just like Nani is suddenly a fan favourite for performing for 3 months or so, we never know whats in the locker.
Also, on what basis do you call Hernandez as 'can do a job' player? Has he even played for us for you to say that?
Every single day there is another player, who'd be perfect for us. All on basis of a couple of Youtube clips. The posters then go on and defend the player till ridiculous levels as if they're the ones who scouted them. Every thread is a ridiculous wishlist of 4 players bought and 5 sold. Except when the word Glazer pops in.
Finally, we don't NEED any kind of player. We seemed to be doing quite okay considering the circumstances. It would help to have another class player but we can live regardless. We have plenty of 'top talents.' Rooney, Nani, Vidic, Evra, Rio are all top drawer. Valencia, Fletcher are great players. Thats 7 of our first teamers who would probably get into the first team anywhere.
We also have many promising youngsters too.
Edit: I'm not particularly pointing at you amol. Apologies if this comes off that way
That doesn't mean we stop discussing all together. When you're passionate about something you don't just not discuss it because you aren't in control. Strange way to look at things to be honest.
And it's not conjecture, it's an observation of what I believe to be the truth, or as close to it, call it an opinion if you will. IMO we have only one top player in midfield and attack in our team who can consistently win us games. There's nothing controversial about that. It's not conjecture, it's pretty close to the truth. Secondly, I don't see anyone, barring Nani who will become a top player anytime soon in midfield and attack. Anderson will but in a few years. Nani could possibly but it could take some more time.
I've seen very little of Hernandez and hence the 'looks to be' bit. Looks like he could be a good signing.
Totally irrelevant to my post. I have no idea why you've put this in response to mine. This should have been somewhere else.
It's pretty obvious that when I say NEED it's in relation to winning big trophies. I thought that was a given. We'll do just fine with this team for a number of years. But if we want to win big trophies we'll need either a metioric rise like we've seen from Ronaldo or players coming in.
As for the top talents bit, again you've misread my post and are rambling. I've constantly said 'in midfield and attack'. I doubt Vidic, Evra and Rio are part of that.
Valencia and Fletcher are good players, not great players.
We have four top players in our team - Vidic, Rio , Evra and Rooney. The rest are good players with Nani having an outside chance of being a top player but probably won't be as good as the above four as very few are.
i've rarely seen him apart from snippets
when i did see him live he was very poor for france against ireland in those playoffs i felt
He is
But i'm a fanboy, take my words with a pinch of salt, though I think he's got it all
I keep saying when he's good he's outstanding, the majority of the time though he's invisble.
This thread needs Nani Nana.
Lyon's president Jean-Michel Aulas about a possible transfer of Gourcuff to Olympique.
When it comes to French players, it's no surprise that we would be behind Arsenal in the pecking order. And they would pretty much guarantee him first team football, as well as building their team around him (most likely). Unless we intend to play him on the wings, or change our formation to accommodate him, he would be facing competition from Scholes, Carrick, Anderson and Giggs, at least in the first season.
Don't you think we can fit him in a midfield 3 without really changing our formation? Or even as you said, put him out wide. I agree that Arsenal will build their team around him - especially if Fabregas leaves, but I don't think accomodating him in the team is the problem. It is inevitably money and whether or not he has the mentality to succeed at our club.
sorry but I can see anyone in our squad capable of displacing him(if we buy him). Gourcuff is worth every penny of those 25 millions.
You kidding me, if we got him and he played for us as well as he did for Bordeaux everyone would be calling him Goucufflop.
ive only seen him in the champs league and the two games v ireland in the play offs..... and he does absolutely nothing for me. he was terrible in teh play offs, with glen whelan and keith andrews running rings round him... now what does that say!!
In about 3-4 years the lad may become one of the best talents in the world but to claim he's worth every penny when he hasn't done that much yet is a bit daft at the moment. He may have an outstanding worldcup and finally step up his game. At the moment he suffers every young players problem, consistancy.
Inconsistency, mate. Like a woman's mind.
both work.