We’ll win about two and probably draw another two. That should be enough.
Yeah I’ll say it: The Relegation Thread
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Not happening. We didnt even play that badly today given state of squad. I thought theyd hammer us and we were an Onana save and Garnacho goal away from a win.
That is so grim.
The bottom 3 are so shite to bridge the gap, but you never know.
Luckily the season won’t be long enough for it to happen.
But the team plays and looks like relegation fodder and that’s damning enough.
But the team plays and looks like relegation fodder and that’s damning enough.
You’re ignoring the fact the teams in the bottom 3 are equally/more shit, and have no chance of clawing the points back.
We will hopefully get another couple wins alright.
I’m not sure where people are coming from with us being in a relegation battle next season. Ffs come on, the fans and the club have to do everything to get into the European spots next season.
Yes, if we have a poor transfer window and an injury crisis, then maybe, but the club and recruitment team have to make sure that we get 5 or 6 top players in during the summer.
Ineos need to sponsor the team or Ratcliffe needs to buy more shares. We need to sell the deadwood and so far so good on the loans. Barcelona made all sorts of moves to buy players, I’m not saying we should go as crazy as them but we have to be creative with bringing in funds.
If we’re thinking that 5 or 6 new players isn’t enough due to Amorim and the formation , and that’s a very valid argument at this point, then sack him.
I’m not sure where people are coming from with us being in a relegation battle next season. Ffs come on, the fans and the club have to do everything to get into the European spots next season.
Yes, if we have a poor transfer window and an injury crisis, then maybe, but the club and recruitment team have to make sure that we get 5 or 6 top players in during the summer.
Ineos need to sponsor the team or Ratcliffe needs to buy more shares. We need to sell the deadwood and so far so good on the loans. Barcelona made all sorts of moves to buy players, I’m not saying we should go as crazy as them but we have to be creative with bringing in funds.
If we’re thinking that 5 or 6 new players isn’t enough due to Amorim and the formation , and that’s a very valid argument at this point, then sack him.
It’s not happening this season but this is where the clubs current trajectory is heading. We’ll probably only win two league games between now and May but it’ll be enough.
Seen this happen before with other clubs, huge decline from the top to bottom half of table. A poor league finish and then the downward momentum carries on onto the next year.
This summer is the most important imo in the clubs history.
If we get it wrong we are in the window we are in serious danger next season.
The teams coming up next season will be stronger. Leeds/Burnley/sunderland are all far better than what Ipswich/Leicester and Burnley were.
32-34 points will prob be enough this season, next season don’t bank on it.
Seen this happen before with other clubs, huge decline from the top to bottom half of table. A poor league finish and then the downward momentum carries on onto the next year.
This summer is the most important imo in the clubs history.
If we get it wrong we are in the window we are in serious danger next season.
The teams coming up next season will be stronger. Leeds/Burnley/sunderland are all far better than what Ipswich/Leicester and Burnley were.
32-34 points will prob be enough this season, next season don’t bank on it.
There's no way we get "5 or 6 top players" this summer with our financial situation.
That's a pipe dream.
Spurs last won a home league match in the first week of November, and have lost to both Ipswich and Leicester in that run (and drawn with Wolves). It’s fairly disastrous losing to them at this stage.
The problem is that Amad is the only reason really that we've been winning any league games at all under Amorim. The performances definitely don't merit any wins.
People say "2 wins" like its a formality. I don't think we'll end up in a relegation scrap but it definitely isn't a formality that we wont. We've played the worst teams in the league under Amorim and they've all outplayed us, and there's nothing you can point at to suggest its going to improve.
People say "2 wins" like its a formality. I don't think we'll end up in a relegation scrap but it definitely isn't a formality that we wont. We've played the worst teams in the league under Amorim and they've all outplayed us, and there's nothing you can point at to suggest its going to improve.
We won’t go down this season the bottom 3 are really poor
I think we’ll be in a relegation fight over the next 2 seasons though. The money has run out, the squad is in terrible shape and there’s a black cloud over the club full of negativity that we can’t seem to shake it’s a recipe for a disaster
I think we’ll be in a relegation fight over the next 2 seasons though. The money has run out, the squad is in terrible shape and there’s a black cloud over the club full of negativity that we can’t seem to shake it’s a recipe for a disaster
How can one poster be so brave?
If we don't spend enormous sums in the summer we might be in trouble next season. We can't continue with that bunch of bang average footballers
We have to be creative about bringing in funds though. Hopefully Rashford goes to villa for 40m and if Antony keeps playing well we might get 30m. There are a few others we could sell as well. Sancho will bring us 25m plus big wages freed up.
Could Ineos sponsor us in some form? After the ruling on APT the other day, we could surely get a hefty sponsorship deal due to our fanbase and revenue.
Could Ratcliffe sell some shares and invest that back in.
I’m brainstorming, but we need funds for recruitment.
Obviously we could try to secure some shrewd deals too like free transfers or players with a year left on contracts.
It's looking like there will wind up being a pretty big points gap between 16th and the bottom four, which will surely preclude us from ending up in a legitimate relegation battle, you know, mathematically speaking. Which is really the only thing that matters in the end.
However, just looking at it on paper, it might be the case that 30 years from now, people will look back on 24/25 as the season that United 'almost got relegated' because they finished somewhere between 15th and 17th.
We have thirteen matches left, and there are three that it'd be fair to say we'll be expected to win- Ipswich, Leicester, and Wolves. As for the other ten, we'll probably fluke some points in three or four of them at least, but we could very easily lose six or seven of them.
However, just looking at it on paper, it might be the case that 30 years from now, people will look back on 24/25 as the season that United 'almost got relegated' because they finished somewhere between 15th and 17th.
We have thirteen matches left, and there are three that it'd be fair to say we'll be expected to win- Ipswich, Leicester, and Wolves. As for the other ten, we'll probably fluke some points in three or four of them at least, but we could very easily lose six or seven of them.
I think we survive relegation only because Leicester and Ipswich aren't playing well enough. It's disgusting how poor we are and injuries have come at the wrong time
My mum says a Southampton supporting friend has handed back his season ticket, saying he doesn't want it any more
Have any of you done that?
Have any of you done that?
I think we will pick up enough wins in the remainder of the season to Stay up, probably reasonably comfortably.
But we do genuinely have one of the worst attacks in the league and that's the reason we are in this mess.
But we do genuinely have one of the worst attacks in the league and that's the reason we are in this mess.
We are not getting relegated.
We are also not finishing top 10.
We are also not finishing top 10.
Nobody to score goals?! We've got our first choice striker, first choice (arguably) no 10s and first choice wingbacks available!
Relegation is a serious conversation for next season. This season, we should be okay - we probably have enough points now and there are four teams worse than us.
I think we just survive but it will be tight, but that's a disgrace in itself.
I reckon we need about 8-10 points to avoid it. Should be ok. 
Don't even want to think about relegation. It was bad enough fifty years ago. We'll probably survive this season but this is a club in free fall.
The chickens of years of parasitic ownership and strategic incompetence are coming home to roost.
The chickens of years of parasitic ownership and strategic incompetence are coming home to roost.
We won’t get relegated, but I’d like to rephrase the question this way:
Has any professional sporting club ever punched further below its weight than Manchester United in the 24/25 season?
Has any professional sporting club ever punched further below its weight than Manchester United in the 24/25 season?
PSR won't be much of an issue for us in the summer though so if Ratcliffe puts sction to his words we can easily afford top players if he invests properly
It's not PSR, it's cash that I'm worried about. Ratcliffe as minority owner won't unilaterally put money in for transfers.
Then his involvment in our club is a huge disaster. Everyone including himself knew what state we were and are in and that massive funds are needed to get us back on top. I thought this was his plan?
This weekend came rumours of the club sacking a significant proportion of the scouting staff
We’re down next season. Over the last two seasons we’ve over reached and we are where we are on merit. Maybe relegation would break the curse. It would rid us of The Glazers and SJR, so maybe worth it.
It is crazy to think really if we were in a season where the points tally needed for survival was more in the 38-40 range we'd be in serious trouble.
Luckily the current bottom 3 are terrible. Us giving up a 12 point lead from this point would be quite a stretch.
Luckily the current bottom 3 are terrible. Us giving up a 12 point lead from this point would be quite a stretch.
I reckon we need about 8-10 points to avoid it. Should be ok.
27 was enough to stay up last season, so we maybe have enough already, but to be on the safe side probably one more win will do it.
This season no but there’s always next season.
Unfortunately that's the problem with minority ownership and why many were pushing (and continue to push) for a full sale. No incentive to invest unless the other owners themselves agree to put their own money in or dilute their ownership stakes.
I’m so grateful for Southampton, Ipswich and Leicester. If those three were a bit better, we could have been in deep and genuine trouble. This season has to become the warning we needed. In the summer we need a full post-mortem and a definitive plan for rapid improvement. We can’t have another season like this.
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Play the fecking kids.
The reality is there's no reason to believe that we won't get dragged into it.
Is anyone really confident about beating Ipswich or Everton?
Hand on heart, who was surprised to lose today? Cos I wasn't. We go into games expecting to be beat. Anyone, no matter how bad, can expect to give us a warm time.
We only beat Leicester reserves a week or so ago cos VAR only operates after the FA Cup fourth round.
We are not too big to fail. This whole idea of the league being a free hit and writing off the season is monumentally arrogant. You don't get to stay in the Premier League because of the badge on your shirt.
Our form, right now, is horrendous and there's nothing other than the chance that Bruno Fernandes does a madness out of nowhere to make you think we'll for sure get 6-9 points between now and May. Nothing about how we're playing convinces.
Is anyone really confident about beating Ipswich or Everton?
Hand on heart, who was surprised to lose today? Cos I wasn't. We go into games expecting to be beat. Anyone, no matter how bad, can expect to give us a warm time.
We only beat Leicester reserves a week or so ago cos VAR only operates after the FA Cup fourth round.
We are not too big to fail. This whole idea of the league being a free hit and writing off the season is monumentally arrogant. You don't get to stay in the Premier League because of the badge on your shirt.
Our form, right now, is horrendous and there's nothing other than the chance that Bruno Fernandes does a madness out of nowhere to make you think we'll for sure get 6-9 points between now and May. Nothing about how we're playing convinces.
Who needs scouts when you can just let the manager buy whomever he wants?
In all seriousness, that would be very misguided if true. "Penny wise and pound foolish" comes to mind.
A flat back five with an immobile and disconnected midfield pair and an attacking trio with the combined goal threat of a catatonic slug to ward off any danger with a flukey draw against Ipswich, please.
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