Its been an intense game, Ive enjoyed it so far.
WWC23 | England v Spain - Spain win the World Cup - and Rubiales gets sacked
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Beckham’s petulant ‘tap’ was nothing compared to what James did
I think it's a flaw most top players have, but learn to control.
What James did was more like Zidane's deliberate stamp on the Saudi player in the second group match in 1998. Zidane got off the hook because France won the following 2 matches before he contributed in the remaining 3 matches on the way to the big prize.
That's a clear red. Any form of little stamp is a red. Keane did a similar one vs Porto. Players are never getting away with that.
It happens rarely to me and I've never done anything seriously harmful, on or off the pitch, when in anger but I'm always shocked after the fact at how it felt like I had no control and didn't even make a conscious decision. If I knew it was coming and could recognize it I would count to 10 and focus on my breath and it would be fine but there's no indication to me that I should do that, just a second of mist and normally a yellow card (I'm not dirty/malicious enough to warrant reds and I can't imagine say stomping on someone when the ball isn't there, but I've definitely gone into 25/75 challenges due to a red mist).
Oshoala looks about as mobile as a turtle for Nigeria. Why bring her on when she barely makes any movement on the pitch?
Nigeria should attack now, but they seem to stick to the plan just sitting back.
Nigeria should attack now, but they seem to stick to the plan just sitting back.
It is a clear red, I agree. But players do get away with kick outs almost every week in the Premier League and have done for a good few seasons now.
Plan seems to be to whack the ball at her via cross or for a layoff like an aging Henrik Larsson. Does she score a lot of headers?
James orignally got a yellow, what did the ref think happened to give a yellow?
If Oshoala is so diminished by that injury, I see no point in bringing her on unless the match situation becomes a serious emergency.
James needs to pray England somehow get through
Hard thirty minutes ahead. Nigeria still doing most of the attacking. England might be looking for a setpiece to get out of this.
Maybe incidental stomping that was reckless, but not calculated/malicious?
Get up
Think England will be very fortunate to get through this game. Underwhelming is putting it nicely.
Looked more like a penalty than England's nearly one.
England deserve nothing from this. They've been shite. Largely sums up their tournament.
Stonewall pen that.
Ref should have reviewed that situation, why did VAR not tell her to look even? Bizarre.
For sure. I fear that levels of vitriol aimed at a single player would be unprecedented should England end up losing this match, mostly because of the hordes of racists and misogynists on social media.
Feels like this WC was never meant to be for England. The players dropping with injuries before, some underwhelming performances but you can think that maybe they're growing into the tournament. Walsh goes down and looks like its over for her, but then comes back and now this game where almost anything that can go wrong has gone wrong.
If you're talking about the player getting shoved in the back, that should have been a penalty. It's no different to what Theo Hernandez did to Mount in Qatar.
Nigeria should have scored there.
Let off there
Listening on Talksport and they all thought it was a penalty.
Yep. That was a bad miss by Alozie in what was a promising position.
Actually, I'm going to say that it won't be that bad. The majority of the vitriol that black male players receive is from a hardcore of idiots who almost certainly have no interest in women's football. There's also a culture around women's football that is much more open to praise and hesitant to criticize. I also cannot see a newspaper doing what they did to Beckham.For sure. I fear that levels of vitriol aimed at a single player would be unprecedented should England end up losing this match, mostly because of the hordes of racists and misogynists on social media.
How was it not even a check? Ref and VAR paying England back one for the one in the first?
Who knows.
It was but also a backpost defender barging through someone who's probably not even going to head the ball seems so harsh, since you're basically supposed to do it, just lighter than Bronze did it.
The sport clearly needs a Yellow Penalty (something that goes in like 30-40% of the time, so like a shot from the top of the box no wall?) and a Red Penalty (current penalty, 80% or whatever)
Who cares, the right decision was made.
Obviously me, which is why I asked.
We need to put England under more pressure.
Its now or never, pile on the pressure!
Wiegman is having a Southgate here
Red card, into extra time and you've only made 1 sub
Red card, into extra time and you've only made 1 sub
It was a definite penalty. Completely irrelevant whether the Nigerian was going to head the ball or not. Just very clumsy. No need for a "Yellow Penalty".
Chloe Kelly has the first touch of a lukaku.
She's injured but Nigeria as a whole have gone off the boil since the red card. Need to find one last push here because England are cruising to penalties here.
Fresh legs? Fresh ideas? Or hope for the best on penalties.