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But this is literally the most pointless debate because either way, he can't fecking move and that won't get any better either.He wasn’t loaned from Burnley because he wasn’t good enough for the Championship.
Going to have to agree to disagree mate, I think if he could move he’d be a decent striker, he’d certainly have scored more for us.
Wout 'Win Destroyer' Workhorse. What a shite, shite player.
I do think questions need to be asked with why this player was brought in. When Sabitzer is more efficient in Wout's position than he is, it does need looking at. Surely there were other options out there, even taking a chance with a relatively more unknown player. He offers zero goal threat.
I think it’s important to note that whoever replaces him as second striker, should be able to run rather than just being a big unit, I don’t think that style of player suits us.
He tries. But we need better.
Yes. As has been pointed out before, he wasn't even available, not like Sabitzer who was surplus to requirements and Bayern were happy to grant him opportunities elsewhere. We had to fight hard for Besiktas to let him go.
That pass to Malacia when Elanga was absolutely free on the back post summed him up.
Had a choice to turn and shoot, lay it off to Eriksen or lay it off for Malacia. Of course he chose the worst option, though I'd say him shooting is probably on par with Malacia.
If he tees up Eriksen it's 3-0.
If he tees up Eriksen it's 3-0.
I genuinely think mctominay up front would be better than him
We better not even think about keeping hold of him on a permanent basis.
To be fair this was almost certainly a Ten Hag decision.
He wasn’t loaned from Burnley because he wasn’t good enough for the Championship.
Going to have to agree to disagree mate, I think if he could move he’d be a decent striker, he’d certainly have scored more for us.
So why did Burnley loan him out then?
He closed the goalkeeper down. I think that was the big positive I can remember
Me too. McT is a much bigger goal threat than Wout. The boy can actually shoot.
Likely to cover the cost of his wages since they had been relegated and he’d be on a Premier League wage. Most clubs that go down have to do this.
Out of interest how many players did they loan out from the previous seasons PL squad?
Surely had nothing to do with him scoring 2 goals in 20 games (one goal every 729 minutes) for Burnley.
No way.
Of last season's squad, according to Transfermarkt, 5 left on free transfers and have yet to find a new club, 5 joined another club on a free transfer (some of these rejected offers from Burnley), 4 were sold for a fee, I think 3 including Weghorst left on loan. 8 of their current squad were in the relegated squad.
Jack Cork, Jay Rodriguez and Ashley Barnes signed new deals last summer that would have reflected Burnley being a Championship team; all three were out of contract. I suspect some of the other 5 will have had clauses in their contract that reduced their salary if Burnley were relegated. It would have been difficult to persuade Weghorst to leave the Bundesliga to join Burnley and accept such a clause.
Football Manager (which may be a terrible source) lists the remaining players as earning between 50% to 60% of their PL salary, most of the new arrivals are on between £500K and £750K per year.
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Imagine a month ago we had fans didn't understand why Weghorst wasn't good enough and defended him by saying ten Hag didn't need our striker to score. Some even said we have to keep him next season ffs.
Wish someone could post a still from the moment WW got the ball that he chose to layoff to malacia. I swear he was sub 6 yards out and had so much time and space to simply turn and poke it home so easy. No confidence
Or Kompany wants a different profile forward while Weghorst wanted to move to play regularly to get into WC squad. From what I see their top scorer is wide forward. The forward line is built toward mobility, running power than Dyche direct long ball toward a target man.
It's unthinkable not to have a reduced wage in contract across the board because it could have easily bankrupted poorer club like Burnley when they're relegated getting stuck with PL wage on players with no resale value. It's a big issue with team morale if some players getting paid PL wage regardless while most of the squad get their wage reduced. It's equivalent of saying "you're guys at fault for our relegation but that guy is not at fault". Weghorst is among the highest earner at Burnley.
I don't think it's difficult to persuade Wolfsburg to sell last season. They nosedived and were in bottom half when Weghorst left (remained so at the end of the season). Perhaps his last big contract with guaranteed length vs 1.5 season left on his Wolfsburg contract.
I’m not going to blame him for his lack of ability. The manager wanted him in as we had £0 to spend due to reasons everyone knows.
The fact a top 5 club on the planet for income per season has him playing in their squad never mind 20+ games is absolutely baffling.
It’s a sign of complete and utter neglect given we have almost limitless resources to bring in basically 99.8% of all professional footballers on the planet.
We have like 200m to spend per season it’s insane how we end up with free strikers or 38 year olds up front each season
The fact a top 5 club on the planet for income per season has him playing in their squad never mind 20+ games is absolutely baffling.
It’s a sign of complete and utter neglect given we have almost limitless resources to bring in basically 99.8% of all professional footballers on the planet.
We have like 200m to spend per season it’s insane how we end up with free strikers or 38 year olds up front each season
Aboubakar would've been a far better loan, he's actually a footballer with good skills and goal scoring ability. Weghorst is not good enough, one of the least threatening CFs in the PL. No pace, no technique, can't score a goal. Going from Martial to him is really eye opening.
I'd rather we attempt some form of striker less formation than play him considerable minutes. Nothing personal against the guy, he is just not up to it
Which makes you think if it was any other player, he'd rob the ball, dribble past the keeper and scores into an empty net
I looked it up, he actually got loaned because he wanted to play in the top flight because LVG said he wouldn’t pick players for Holland that play in lower leagues.
To be fair, he is not the most nimble fella. He probably turns like an oil tanker. Didn't think the decision to lay it off was too bad actually.
While that may be true I'm not sure the Turkish league is a higher level than the championship to be honest.
Its shameful that a club who could once boast forward options of Yorke/Cole/Solskjaer/Sheringham and Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez/Berbatov has been reduced to playing Wout Weghorst as their primary CF by years of ineptitude and mismanagement
Interesting cheers.
He didn't even come free did he? No idea why this is said. Didn't we have to pay a fee to one of his clubs to get him on loan here?
He didn’t want to play championship, he thought it would affect his National chances
Obviously wasn't his fault it ended 2-2 but man he is bad.
Immediately looked worse the moment he came on. There was a couple of passes and loose balls which a mobile striker would have gotten to, but he is just so slow off the mark, he got nowhere near.
It was like we were playing with 10 men, and then later, 9.
It was like we were playing with 10 men, and then later, 9.
3m I think to break the loan early, can't remember for sure though
Thinking about this, he had several options.
Turn and shoot left footed.
Lay it to elanga who has his body open to strike it first time right foot
Lay it to Malacia right foot
Lay it to Malacia left foot
Lay it to eriksen?? ( Think it's him)
Think ww ended up choosing the worst choice
He's definitely starting vs Forest. Martial will probably be saved for Sevilla and Brighton, understandably. Hope he shows up...
During this sequence of play, Weghorst slipped after some physical contact with Montiel (why is he so weak?). Weghorst looks like he's slow in his reaction/thinking, so he didn't have time to look for Elanga who unfortunately was in Weghorst blindspot.
No issue if he is start. Total understandable. However, I hope if thing doesn't go well, ETH would be quick to take him off instead of shoehorning in different role because other players can do better job in that role.
No matter how hard he works, he's just a tractor among Ferraris.
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