Potential is overrated. Martial last year was the next henry, depay was the next robben, etc
An 8 at hand here and now is worth more than a potentially 6 or 9
An 8 at hand here and now is worth more than a potentially 6 or 9
Would you trade the potential of Rashford for Harry Kane ?
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We aren't talking about average imports are we, we are talking about Harry Kane. People didn't want us to get Ibra or or any striker so Rashford can play, was the same with Danny Welbeck, we had people moaning about RVP because of him. The players you mentioned were all very good players who earned their place in the team by being the best in their positions.Over here it seems we just want young players to be played for the heck of it to appear different or something. I don't see how signing an established striker right now is a bad thing for the club as everybody will get playing time given the large number games we'll have. But as far as some people are concerned buying a striker would limit Rashfords playing time so they don't even want to hear about it
I prefer Rashford. He's more exciting and I think he has a better potential.
He is hardly breaking records though. I wouldn't exactly put him in the Owen, Torres, Rooney category, but he has done well. The fact is, Kane has proven to be one of the top 5 lethal premier league strikers already at 23 (scoring 20 goals 3, seasons in a row) so it doesn't make a blind bit of difference what he was doing at 19, since he is scoring at a rate even better than what the previous wonderkids were when they got to his age. Kane's story is that he arrived late but with a bang. Rashford is overrated and may well have overrated potential. I like him a lot and he is very exciting. I reckon he could develop into a 15-20 EPL goal a season striker as worser players have scored this amount. At the moment though, United need a proven striker now. Kane is that in spades and always seems to score against rivals in the premier league (so does Rashford
), I just feel that Rashford may not develop into the player you think, at United, due to lack of playing in a CF role so it can be a bit pointless. Rashford isn't going to play as the main CF next season or the season after, or the season after that, especially if we sign a prime strikerHeart says no because Rashford's a local lad and came through our academy but my brain says yes in an instant. Kane is a superb striker and will get 200+ goals in the premier league if he can stop getting injured.
Gave this more thought than usual, rather then just voting on a whim. Was very tempted to vote for Kane, but the United story is better if Rashford makes it.
If he doesn't make it, we'll just spend £100m on someone who will and out of the two choices i would rather Rashford made it at United then Kane.
If he doesn't make it, we'll just spend £100m on someone who will and out of the two choices i would rather Rashford made it at United then Kane.
This is year two for Rashford and I would say he has come leaps and bounds ahead of the likes of Welbeck and Januzaj in that time. I am especially convinced because his mentality seems to be terrific. We all worried about him under Jose but he has won him over. I don't think there's any doubt Rashford becomes a top player for us in due time.
Of course, I do like Kane but I think it's easier to find a forward like him than it is Rashford. The combo will be brilliant for England though.
If we were a settled sqaud full of proven league winners then it would be Rashford.
But given our specific situation, it has to be the guarantee of consistent goals that Kane offers, rather than the uncertain talent of Rashford.
But given our specific situation, it has to be the guarantee of consistent goals that Kane offers, rather than the uncertain talent of Rashford.
Tomorrow's pointless question: would you swap our 2010/11 league title for Kante, Dybala, Neymar, and also De Gea never leaving?
lol no.
Indeed. 4 others in fact, over 20 seasons, who have managed to break the 20 goal barrier in 3 consecutive premier league seasons.
No.
I don't like him.
I don't like him.
Kane is superb.
But I love Rashers and genuinely seeing him lead the line for us in the future. Do I think he can get to Kane levels of goal-scoring? No. But he's a more explosive talent for sure.
But I love Rashers and genuinely seeing him lead the line for us in the future. Do I think he can get to Kane levels of goal-scoring? No. But he's a more explosive talent for sure.
I'm a Man Utd fan but it's crazy to say you'd prefer Rashford. Kane is proven PL quality, seems to recover from injuries well and is still young as well. Rashford could be many things but at the moment he is a very fast, quite erratic young striker who could go on to do great things. Key word being could.
Quite. And the other names in that club...?
Shearer, Henry, RvN.
I'm really, really surprised by this poll.
Before the Chelsea game, he hadn't scored a PL goal since September.
Why you wasting your time on this trash thread!
Rashford has got bags of potential and he's been here since he was 8 years old. I don't think I'd trade that for anyone. Kane is excellent and there are few players that would be considered a better purchase but this is just asking too much. I'm sure Spurs fans wouldn't trade Kane for anyone.
Rashford might never become as good as Kane but I would rather gamble on the Manc lad.
Under SAF we'd have broken the bank for Kane 2 years ago and had both.
Would you have a great striker now or a potentially better striker later? If it wasn't for Rashford being a local kid people wouldn't have to think about it. Too many players never reach their potential and the club needs a great striker now.
If we had a top class striker to be the main man then sure I'd be for potential, but we don't.
If we had a top class striker to be the main man then sure I'd be for potential, but we don't.
no but I would trade the potential of wilson and adnan for harry kane
Yep, it's one of those things you can enjoy even if the results that week haven't gone your way. It's largely what got me through last season for starters.
Kane can flat out score but isn't that effective vs the big teams, Rashford has already shown he's class vs tough oppositions such as Chelsea and City.
Kane is a top class finisher however, that's all he can Do, whilst Rashford's finishing isn't fantastic it's something I know he will develop. He is also way better than Kane at dribbling, affecting play outside of goals, playing in alternate positions too, way more versatile in every other area of his game already at 19.
Whilst Kane is top class at what he does, top 10 in the world for sure, Rashford is more versatile and has the potential to be better than Kane, we do have to understand there is a possibility of Kane improving in other areas too however, I don't think he will, I actually don't think it makes sense for him to either, he's class at what he does and try be the best in the world at it. Rashford all day for me.
Kane is a top class finisher however, that's all he can Do, whilst Rashford's finishing isn't fantastic it's something I know he will develop. He is also way better than Kane at dribbling, affecting play outside of goals, playing in alternate positions too, way more versatile in every other area of his game already at 19.
Whilst Kane is top class at what he does, top 10 in the world for sure, Rashford is more versatile and has the potential to be better than Kane, we do have to understand there is a possibility of Kane improving in other areas too however, I don't think he will, I actually don't think it makes sense for him to either, he's class at what he does and try be the best in the world at it. Rashford all day for me.
I guess you missed the game where Kane played a major role in destroying Chelsea 5-3.
Not a chance. Rashford has the speed and ability on the ball to be better than Kane. His finishing will only get better. Also, at 19 Kane was doing absolutely nothing.
It might be trash according to you (and others - including @Sassy Colin), but it's a reasonable hypothetical question, and people have a right to opinion as long as it's done in an orderly fashion - that's the purpose of an online discussion site. We can't just stifle opinions that don't align with our own in dictatorial fashion - that goes against the essence of any sort of (largely democratic) public forum.
I'd have been keen on that. Good young and talented English front line to last us years. Yes please. I'd actually pay 100 million squid for Kane now but that would probably just be laughed at by Levy.
Nope.
I expect those saying Kane now to switch to Rashford come the end of the season and seeing him have an extended run #9.
I'm confident Rashford has the right mentality/attitude/work rate to get closer to his expected potential, something the likes of Adnan, Welbeck and Memphis didn't have.
I expect those saying Kane now to switch to Rashford come the end of the season and seeing him have an extended run #9.
I'm confident Rashford has the right mentality/attitude/work rate to get closer to his expected potential, something the likes of Adnan, Welbeck and Memphis didn't have.
It wouldn't be laughed at. Not in their situation.
If they don't win the PL this season, and we came in with 100m for Kane, and offered him Rooney's wages, both Kane and Levy would take it.
I'm biased towards our own youth with great talent and even tho Kane is one of the best strikers in EPL, young and talented as well, I just love the fact that Rashford is our academy product.
So it's a "No" for me.
So it's a "No" for me.
Some people really struggle with the notion of a hypothetical question. I'm surprised someone hasn't posted a formation, showing how they can both play together (With Varane at CB), with a cost break down of who we need to sell to afford them.
"Do you prefer tea or coffee?"
Both
"Ski trip or a beach break?"
Ski in the winter, beach in the summer
As for the question, I like Kane. I don't think he is world class, but a very, very good striker. Rashford has the potential to be world class, whilst still offering a lot at the minute - his stats last season when he was played at #9 were comparable with Kane's in probably a worse team and system. He also has that added versatility over Kane. I don't blame anyone for preferring the proven talent over potential, but Rashford is our guy, some of us are so invested in him, it's hard to turn that off. That said I think even the most neutral of parties would have to think twice.
"Do you prefer tea or coffee?"
Both
"Ski trip or a beach break?"
Ski in the winter, beach in the summer
As for the question, I like Kane. I don't think he is world class, but a very, very good striker. Rashford has the potential to be world class, whilst still offering a lot at the minute - his stats last season when he was played at #9 were comparable with Kane's in probably a worse team and system. He also has that added versatility over Kane. I don't blame anyone for preferring the proven talent over potential, but Rashford is our guy, some of us are so invested in him, it's hard to turn that off. That said I think even the most neutral of parties would have to think twice.
No but only because there's something unique about seeing a lad from the academy with so much talent and it'd be a great journey to see him develop.
If both of them played for say Norwich and we could buy one, Kane every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Many a slip between potential and actually becoming top drawer.
If both of them played for say Norwich and we could buy one, Kane every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Many a slip between potential and actually becoming top drawer.
Absolutely!
quite. I am surprised by the number of haters there are in this thread. Why enter the thread, simply to bash it? Why not find other pastimes such as a spot of croquet, or quiet time in your study whilst reading the finest literature, drinking the finest wine, admiring the finest artwork whilst basking in the glory of your superiority?
Remember Rashford is only 19 and hsn't been a guaranteed starter. I would stick with him over Kane as he's used to United. Nothing is ever guaranteed and who knows, Kane could come to United and bomb. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened.
I'd stick with Rashford...but of course if we could have both, that would be a no-brainer. But the OP is suggesting one or the other....so I'd keep Rashford.
I'd stick with Rashford...but of course if we could have both, that would be a no-brainer. But the OP is suggesting one or the other....so I'd keep Rashford.
I would like to agree with you, except Kane provides the platform for them to play in the CL which I imagine is a necessary prerequisite to their ambitions with this new stadium. memories of Bale and their terrible investment may give Daniel the heebie jeebies about cashing in on his prized asset, only to buy more Sissoko's, Bolasies and Benteke's (that's 90 million EPL prices). Fact is, Kane is pretty much irreplaceable for now as he GUARENDAMNTEE'S 20 league goals which is what they need to remain strong as they reinvent themselves. Poch ain't Wenger. I don't feel he could survive caching in year on year.
Absolutely. Rashford might become very good, could even become world class maybe. Kane is already there and it's not a matter of 'if'.
Im baffled by how many voted Rashford
Sure he looks like huge potential, but so have many many other players - Kane is proven PL quality and the only thing that puts me off slightly is the injuries he is picking up
Sure he looks like huge potential, but so have many many other players - Kane is proven PL quality and the only thing that puts me off slightly is the injuries he is picking up
That is why the question is interesting when asked here and pointless when you ask it elsewhere. We add romantic value to Rashford's evaluation, a joy of following the development of a great talent from the very beginning etc., a proud feeling that the academy products still play part in our club.