The Brown Bull
It's Coming Home.
Absolute bollocks.He was worse than Moyes
guy didn't cut in the EPL, just like Messi in France. some people only succeed in certain situations
Absolute bollocks.He was worse than Moyes
guy didn't cut in the EPL, just like Messi in France. some people only succeed in certain situations
I'm not sure Ashworth had more acclaim than Rangnick in the DOF role, to be honest. But Ashworth is still young and can grow even more. Not sure if the whole gardening leave circus for 1 year is worth it, though.No, we’ve got one. Let’s see how he does.
Rangnick was famous for his work as DOF, not a manager.Would have liked to see him continue as manager with a mandate to rip the whole thing up and start again.
His high pressing system would have been brilliant for us. But his home truths were too much for the suits and they didn’t have the guts back him and to take on the players who had downed tools (Shaw, Rashford, Martial etc)
I don’t think he is/was clueless at all, but his 6-month interim appointment left him powerless. He had zero authority over the team and they knew it. He basically named a team each week and they went out and decided if they could be arsed or not. Any one of us could have been in charge at that point, it would have made no difference.No. He was clueless working at a club of this level, both on the pitch and off.
I don’t think he is/was clueless at all, but his 6-month interim appointment left him powerless. He had zero authority over the team and they knew it. He basically named a team each week and they went out and decided if they could be arsed or not. Any one of us could have been in charge at that point, it would have made no difference.
He was a sitting duck when appointed long before any of that.Yes it’s quite surprising that slagging off the players in public every week during his press conferences didn’t have a motivating impact on them. Equally surprising that slagging off the entire management structure at the same time left him isolated and without influence.
I'm not sure Ashworth had more acclaim than Rangnick in the DOF role, to be honest. But Ashworth is still young and can grow even more. Not sure if the whole gardening leave circus for 1 year is worth it, though.
He was a sitting duck when appointed long before any of that.
That's young for a director.He’s 53
It isn't. I don't know the PL clubs to well, but I just looked up how old the DoF (or equivalent people) are in the Bundesliga top 6:That's young for a director.
Yep, everyone but Ralf’s fault.
That's not what @Plant0x84 saying at all, but context doesn't seem like something you bother with.
Explain the context for me
Ralf was a revelation.
Nah - he knew the problems and had no problems calling them out. I liked him, and he's obviously not a bad coach either.No. He was clueless working at a club of this level, both on the pitch and off.
Ralf was awful for us as a interim, but he was alo placed in impossible circumstances.
Even then his results in building footballing structures speak for themselves and we would have done much better if we had had him on instead of handing Ten Hag all the reigns.
Nah - he knew the problems and had no problems calling them out. I liked him, and he's obviously not a bad coach either.
He was an interim manager and pointed out the problems and the solutions. Not his fault the idiots didn't listen to him.What a hero pointing the finger at others while he’s sat in the managers seat.
Impossible circumstances? He has results at small teams with limited expectations, nothing at a club of our level with the kind of pressure that brings. You can throw as many excuses around as you want but ultimately he came in, results didn’t improve as he wanted, he decided to point the finger at pretty much everyone above and below him at the club, and results got worse. He proved himself very incapable of working here long-term.
He was one of the worst interim managers we’ve ever had but he spoke the right stuff so a lot of people like him.
Ashworth seems a bit of a nepotism appointment to me, to be honest.Depends what style of football Ineos want. DoF seems as much relationship based as being able to spot talent - given the scouts do all the heavy lifting there - so with Ashworth I assume Ineos think he’s got the better fit from that perspective (and is probably easier to manage than Ralf).
Ashworth seems a bit of a nepotism appointment to me, to be honest.
Nepotism is everywhere, especially at the director level hiring, since people want who they know. It’s not something new.Here we go, ffs. Few ManUtd fans love this word way too much that they use it so randomly.
Nepotism is everywhere, especially at the director level hiring, since people want who they know. It’s not something new.
Hard to say. The City board of directors seemed to target him from the beginning, even before they got their DOF.Doesn't mean everything is nepotism. Was pep hiring nepotism too?
Hard to say. The City board of directors seemed to target him from the beginning, even before they got their DOF.
He would have filled the first team with young players by now for sure.Would have liked to see him continue as manager with a mandate to rip the whole thing up and start again.
His high pressing system would have been brilliant for us. But his home truths were too much for the suits and they didn’t have the guts back him and to take on the players who had downed tools (Shaw, Rashford, Martial etc)
Yes it’s quite surprising that slagging off the players in public every week during his press conferences didn’t have a motivating impact on them. Equally surprising that slagging off the entire management structure at the same time left him isolated and without influence.
How about in England? Germany is a much different setup.It isn't. I don't know the PL clubs to well, but I just looked up how old the DoF (or equivalent people) are in the Bundesliga top 6:
Simon Rolfes (Leverkusen): 42
Fabian Wohlgemuth (Stuttgart): 46
Max Eberl (Bayern): 50
Rouven Schröder (Leipzig): 49
Sebastian Kehl (Dortmund): 44
Markus Krösche (Frankfurt): 43
Then many years after their "loss" at the Game of Thrones, people would still talk about their legacies. Because their legacies were true, not just empty shells.Unfortunately Ragnick played the Game Of Thrones like Lord Eddard Stark of Winterfell.
I don’t quite understand your post. People still talk that Ragnick was right, and people still talk about how Ned Stark was the most honorable man in Westeros.Then many years after their "loss" at the Game of Thrones, people would still talk about their legacies. Because their legacies were true, not just empty shells.