Well, if Twitter called it..
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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Well, if Twitter called it..
Before people start creaming themselves about PSG, remember, they have been dreadful this season and were there for the taking tonight. We are massive bottlers.
Question for the posters in here. Feel free to answer once you've cooled down:
1. Did Fergie always take off players on a yellow at half time?
2. Did we not dominate the second half until their scrappy goal? And was Fred not a part of this domination? After all, it was primarily in midfield we dominated them in order to set up the chances(that our attackers consistently fecked up).
3. Was Fred's second yellow card really a yellow card(or even a freekick for that matter)?
4. Can Ole be blamed for terrible finishing?
That's what I thought...
1. Did Fergie always take off players on a yellow at half time?
2. Did we not dominate the second half until their scrappy goal? And was Fred not a part of this domination? After all, it was primarily in midfield we dominated them in order to set up the chances(that our attackers consistently fecked up).
3. Was Fred's second yellow card really a yellow card(or even a freekick for that matter)?
4. Can Ole be blamed for terrible finishing?
That's what I thought...
Not at all. We were basically playing with 10 and a half men from the 25th minute, surely you can see that?
Not meaning to have a go, and I'm sure you're not either. But can you not see how that was a stupid decision?
It really doesn't matter if we played well for about 30 minutes, Ole proves again just how poor a manager he is. Why the feck do we do this to ourselves?
Id say Fred's sending off is on the ref given he clearly got all of the ball. He could've subbed him off early, but unfortunately we lack energy without him. We had the edge for most of the second half, so not fetching him off was a risk that didn't come off but made sense.
Martial is a walking disaster this season but why are people saying he missed two easy chances?
Bruno should have been shooting after Cavani hit the bar, it was a poor decision from him to cut it back and give PSG time to cover the space.
Martial shouldn't have been on the pitch after that walking paced first half of his anyway.
Bruno should have been shooting after Cavani hit the bar, it was a poor decision from him to cut it back and give PSG time to cover the space.
Martial shouldn't have been on the pitch after that walking paced first half of his anyway.
I thought we did enough to get a result but the blame goes to Martial and terrible in game management
He shouldn't have left Fred on but that we played well and should have been out of sight before the sending off.
I'm not Ole's biggest fan but I don't blame him for today's result. It's on Martial IMO.
I'm not Ole's biggest fan but I don't blame him for today's result. It's on Martial IMO.
I think the comments in this thread are now becoming premature after a game where Ole made one fatal error. All things considered we should be looking at the picture as a whole, which is this was our 3rd consecutive strong performance, showing there is a sense of consistency in the way we play. We are able to take games to teams a lot better, and we aren't relying solely on counter attacks to unlock big sides. It's a mistake in keeping Fred on and Ole will likely learn from that, but I've always maintained my own evaluation on how we progress emphasises on performance as much as it does results.
And if we perform against Leipzig the way we did today, we will almost certainly be in the knock out stages. I mark today as another sign of progression for the manager, even though we lost the game.
And if we perform against Leipzig the way we did today, we will almost certainly be in the knock out stages. I mark today as another sign of progression for the manager, even though we lost the game.
Both teams are as good as one another. They have two outstanding players but the squads are nearly the same.
Doesn't fly with me. Both PSG & leipzig didn't even turn up against us until tonight and even then we can't do the job of qualifying properly.
We haven't beaten any decent team all season that came to play.
won against PSG, he’s a genius, great tactics. lost against PSG, he is incompetent.
the lack of objectivity you see in this thread is sad.
Ole gambled by keeping Fred, but it’s a gamble with every player with a yellow card (especially in Fred’s position and role). It didn’t pay off. But that doesn’t mean he is incompetent and should go!!
what about the missed chances? Cavani hitting the cross bar? We were actually closer to scoring.
Unfortunately we lost today, we get up and carry on
the lack of objectivity you see in this thread is sad.
Ole gambled by keeping Fred, but it’s a gamble with every player with a yellow card (especially in Fred’s position and role). It didn’t pay off. But that doesn’t mean he is incompetent and should go!!
what about the missed chances? Cavani hitting the cross bar? We were actually closer to scoring.
Unfortunately we lost today, we get up and carry on
Tactically he got things spot on. If anything, we had 2 glorious chances to take the lead and had we converted even one of them, that was game over.
However, keeping Fred on was an atrocious decision, and while no one can say if it cost us the game or not (as we were 2-1 down), it certainly did harm our chances
However, keeping Fred on was an atrocious decision, and while no one can say if it cost us the game or not (as we were 2-1 down), it certainly did harm our chances
Other than booting the ref in the bollocks, Fred was screaming to get sent off ....so Ole keeps him on 2nd half 
We’ve known this and it’s annoying
There's an irony here. For a player who cemented his legacy as a sub coming on to win games, he doesn't seem to quite get it as a manager.
Did anyone hear Oles tactics over the microphone when we went 2-1 down? He shouted to Bruno “get in around Mason” that’s the extent of his tactical knowledge. Get around Mason. Jesus Christ imagine Pep saying that.
Players let us down tonight by being so damn wasteful. Ole let us down by not taking Fred off imo.
It’s not good enough, but we are close to something great. Need a top striker in asap imo.
Take Fred off and bring who on with his engine?
He gambled on Fred because it gave us the best chance to maintain our hold on the game. I said this at half time.
Gamble backfired, fair enough, that’s football, we still created more than enough to win, your aspiring to be clueless if you ignore that as well.
Criminal from him, yes, but he's been out of form all season. Who do you think starts Martial? Or keeps him on the pitch after missing sitters and playing shite?
Why do we always talk about how many misses we have anyway? Every team misses chances. Only for Ole is the "if only X scored" excuse trotted out.
with the fixture schedule we have, we really could do without having to take a full strength squad to Germany next week.
If anything, today reinforces the point we've got a squad that can compete, both domestically and in Europe.
If we had a manager on the level of the squad, we'd be level with Liverpool. As it is, we've got Ole, so here we are.
If we had a manager on the level of the squad, we'd be level with Liverpool. As it is, we've got Ole, so here we are.
Oh bore off @Zen86, the entire bloody forum called it, and our guys in the studio over here at HT. Probably every pundit on every sports channel I’d imagine. It was so obvious.
Ole doesn’t shit gold, you won’t turn to stone if you say he made a mistake, but like me you were happy with the performance.
Positives: I'd like to credit this to him: We had control for a period of time in that second half.
Negative: Abysmal game management. The Fred debacle. Leaving subs until it's too late. Not reacting to Tuschel changing things up.
It's a typical Ole affair. I'm always looking for a sliver of hope that he'll come good and become the manager to take us back to the top but I'm occasionally reminded why my head keeps telling me that's improbable. Days like this. Wonder how a proper top class tactician and coach would fare with this team.
Negative: Abysmal game management. The Fred debacle. Leaving subs until it's too late. Not reacting to Tuschel changing things up.
It's a typical Ole affair. I'm always looking for a sliver of hope that he'll come good and become the manager to take us back to the top but I'm occasionally reminded why my head keeps telling me that's improbable. Days like this. Wonder how a proper top class tactician and coach would fare with this team.
Ole trusted Fred and tbf he was right as we were dominating the game in the second half (which Fred was big hand on). If Fred had been gotten a yellow for a rash tackle, then obviously Ole would have been wrong in his decision to trust Fred to not get sent off. Fred was not at all rash the whole half and got sent off for a good tackle. So Ole out?
He set the team up well, we did better against last years finalists than I expected tbh
I hate when people start with 'Did Fergie'...Ole isn't Fergie, he hasn't done anything to be like Fergie, nor does he have the same goodwill that Fergie had when mistakes happened. He made a massive error tonight and it should be questioned.
It was a poor decision to leave Fred on but Martial should have buried those chances. And anyone using that mistake by Ole to call for his sacking can feck right off.
This thread is as inconsistent as Ole. Sack Ole sack this thread.
This is an absolutely horrible take imo. He put it on a plate for Martial who took an age to take his shot.
How some people can't understand that manager is not there to get only some things right? The same how we as a club have high standards for midfielders, defenders etc...it goes for manager also. In big games all decisions are important.
Yes, we did play good. He prepared us good for game. But, he fecked up with Fred. And lost the game there. While i am writing this, pundits are saying exactly that. They can't believe why Fred was not subbed.
What should he do? Bring on Ighalo? Or Greenwood who we all know have banged in goals this season?
A defeat in such an important match can never be a "strong performance". We're not Sheffield United.
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Only responsible for wins.
We'd have definitely levelled the game with Fred on the pitch must sack him!
Yes it's an error in hindsight. Martial and Cavani take their chances and no one is talking about it.
Actually there would be people here lamenting how lucky he was that Fred was on the pitch at all.
must sack him! Yes it's an error in hindsight. Martial and Cavani take their chances and no one is talking about it.
Actually there would be people here lamenting how lucky he was that Fred was on the pitch at all.
This is what kills me, because I am convinced of the same too. I said a month or so ago that we'll be good enough to keep him in a job but not good enough to win anything major. It's a hard place to be, or believe you are in. I just hope I'm wrong and he can take us up a level or two, because you know he won't ever be going anywhere until he decides himself.
What the feck are you on about? Stop hanging out the back of Ole's arsehole.
Jesus! That's a new one now.
You want a manager from touchline to shout - Hey Bruno, get around Mason and make an overlapping run and create a 2 v 1 situation on that flank, and then cross it in?
It's a touchline instruction, it's never going to be more than a few words
Not really sure what;s funny about that?
You really think Ole will win us anything when he couldn't even see Fred was a red card risk waiting to happen. Shockingly school boy error.
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